Zoo Music Girl Posted May 28, 2020 Report Share Posted May 28, 2020 54 minutes ago, Peter North said: Agreed. Wish him well of course, but i think it's time to move on. Would love Tom Ravenscroft in the afternoon. That would be good. Yeah no ill will of course, the Evening Session was a big part of my childhood, but his show now is so dull and past it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ozanne Posted May 28, 2020 Report Share Posted May 28, 2020 The Spectator is now saying Boris is unfit to lead. You know that left leaning, remainer newspaper... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
squirrelarmy Posted May 28, 2020 Report Share Posted May 28, 2020 3 minutes ago, Ozanne said: The Spectator is now saying Boris is unfit to lead. You know that left leaning, remainer newspaper... Isn’t that the paper that Cummings’ wife writes a column for? There must be a deeper agenda here if they are going against one of their own writers? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dotdash79 Posted May 28, 2020 Report Share Posted May 28, 2020 8 minutes ago, Ozanne said: The Spectator is now saying Boris is unfit to lead. You know that left leaning, remainer newspaper... Really good attack line from Keir, will push him into a corner. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gizmoman Posted May 28, 2020 Report Share Posted May 28, 2020 9 minutes ago, Ozanne said: The Spectator is now saying Boris is unfit to lead. You know that left leaning, remainer newspaper... We saw an example of Cumming's power when Sajid Javid resigned, Boris was quite prepared to let him go rather than go against Cumming's, now Boris has sacrificed a large part of his popularity and all his credibility by backing Cummings against the vast majority of the Britsh people, I can't ever remember a political advisor having such influence, he's clearly running the show, in a supposed democracy that can't go on. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Smeble Posted May 28, 2020 Report Share Posted May 28, 2020 5 hours ago, WestCountryGirl said: Honestly I am feeling a bit hysterical right now. I can't believe how reckless, how careless they are being, just because their ratings are in the toilet. I want to shout and scream it from the rooftops to people to keep isolating. We're doomed. The country is being actively guided into a second wave and there is nothing I can do to stop that happening. I was scared when this all began over here but I thought we would just have to hunker down for 3-4 months and then the worst would be over, but right now it feels like the worst is yet to come. Sorry for doom-mongering. As I said, bit hysterical... A bit? 14 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DeanoL Posted May 28, 2020 Report Share Posted May 28, 2020 The new rules effectively make the lockdown unenforceable - you could be travelling anywhere for a socially distanced visit in someone's garden. Having said that, I don't think it's an awful move. These rules aren't going to allow any businesses to open up that weren't already planning to, which frankly has always been the main problem with our lockdown: not compelling anyone but essential workers not to go to work. With the Cummings thing enforcing lockdown became impossible anyway, so we're now into the world of personal responsibility. Do what you consider safe, essentially. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Smeble Posted May 28, 2020 Report Share Posted May 28, 2020 2 hours ago, stuartbert two hats said: Ed Miliband didn't win because he couldn't eat a bacon sandwich properly. Gove can't even drink water like a human. 🙄🙄🙄🙄🙄 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chuckles07 Posted May 28, 2020 Report Share Posted May 28, 2020 6 minutes ago, Smeble said: A bit? Sad to say I am taking the bait. But i really wonder wether you are a troll who makes comments deliberately to hurt people or whether something really bad happened to you and you struggle to empathise with anyone else. If it is the latter I really feel sorry for you and wish you well. Seek help. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
efcfanwirral Posted May 28, 2020 Report Share Posted May 28, 2020 1 hour ago, squirrelarmy said: Isn’t that the paper that Cummings’ wife writes a column for? There must be a deeper agenda here if they are going against one of their own writers? A more "fully open up" leader perhaps? I keep circling back to the "hawks vs doves" stories a few weeks ago. Ridiculously the current leaders are supposedly on the pro saving lives side vs the economy above all else lot Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bisque Posted May 29, 2020 Report Share Posted May 29, 2020 3 hours ago, EasyUserName said: I wonder who holds the record for (modern - say past 100 years) deaths whilst being in government. Easy to be at the top with "clean hands" & equally as easy to get them dirty on the way up. Mao or Blair. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zahidf Posted May 29, 2020 Report Share Posted May 29, 2020 (edited) The main spreads seem to be large indoor gatherings like weddings and within car homes rather than meeting up in a park with a mate (though obviously there isnt a 100% clear link) I'd be inclined to say that the odd meet up with mates with distancing outside will be fine. Surface infections isnt... a massive risk as well from the limited evidence. Edited May 29, 2020 by zahidf Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shoptildrop Posted May 29, 2020 Report Share Posted May 29, 2020 (edited) Right I watched this programme last night and quite frankly sat open mouthed for most of it!! Came out early 2018 and all the research was back in 2017 https://www.bbc.co.uk/programmes/p059y0p1 Highlights They had a track and trace app that worked The key take outs from the experiment were "stay at home" and "wash your hands" 2 of the folk involved in the app and data mining are now part of sage Showed the PPE warehouse storage It really showed how quickly the virus spread without doing anything My fella downloaded it as not on iplayer, if you can find it elsewhere I totally recommend it. What it shows is key people had already done a virus response 2 years ago and all the data of how it can pan out, an app that works, where they issues would be AND some key slogans - it was unreal tbh Edit found link on youtube Edited May 29, 2020 by shoptildrop Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stuartbert two hats Posted May 29, 2020 Report Share Posted May 29, 2020 55 minutes ago, Bisque said: Mao or Blair. Not Hitler? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ozanne Posted May 29, 2020 Report Share Posted May 29, 2020 7 hours ago, squirrelarmy said: Isn’t that the paper that Cummings’ wife writes a column for? There must be a deeper agenda here if they are going against one of their own writers? That’s the one. Maybe some on the right are turning on Boris as he’s perceived as a liability now? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zoo Music Girl Posted May 29, 2020 Report Share Posted May 29, 2020 Also the paper that Boris used to edit! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Neil Posted May 29, 2020 Report Share Posted May 29, 2020 so we're leaving lockdown with a much higher death rate than we had when we started lockdown. We're following the science. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Homer Posted May 29, 2020 Report Share Posted May 29, 2020 5 hours ago, stuartbert two hats said: Not Hitler? If that’s how this is going then surely Stalin is the top Trump? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ozanne Posted May 29, 2020 Report Share Posted May 29, 2020 23 minutes ago, Homer said: If that’s how this is going then surely Stalin is the top Trump? It’s half 7, Hitler and Stalin have already been referenced 😆 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zahidf Posted May 29, 2020 Report Share Posted May 29, 2020 (edited) 53 minutes ago, Neil said: so we're leaving lockdown with a much higher death rate than we had when we started lockdown. We're following the science. It's the scientific principle that allowing us out of lockdown quicker might save dominic Cummings career. Edited May 29, 2020 by zahidf Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jparx Posted May 29, 2020 Report Share Posted May 29, 2020 1 hour ago, Ozanne said: That’s the one. Maybe some on the right are turning on Boris as he’s perceived as a liability now? They're probably thinking Boris is going to tank the party by 2024 at this rate. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mcshed Posted May 29, 2020 Report Share Posted May 29, 2020 1 hour ago, Neil said: so we're leaving lockdown with a much higher death rate than we had when we started lockdown. We're following the science. That's because we now have a world class track and trace system in place, well maybe by the end of next month. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ozanne Posted May 29, 2020 Report Share Posted May 29, 2020 8 minutes ago, jparx said: They're probably thinking Boris is going to tank the party by 2024 at this rate. We can but hope. Remember Boris also said they would be testing 200k by the end of the month. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ryan1984 Posted May 29, 2020 Report Share Posted May 29, 2020 1 hour ago, Neil said: so we're leaving lockdown with a much higher death rate than we had when we started lockdown. We're following the science. Surely Vallance and Whitty must be tempted to break ranks? They were preaching so much caution yesterday. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jparx Posted May 29, 2020 Report Share Posted May 29, 2020 6 minutes ago, Ryan1984 said: Surely Vallance and Whitty must be tempted to break ranks? They were preaching so much caution yesterday. I don't particularly think they will, but it seemed very clear yesterday there was a divergence in opinion between them and the government. I think that was plain for everyone to see. I think they're both keen to avoid getting involved in politics while this is going on so I don't imagine they will come out and criticise them. Imagine if Whitty, in particular, did come out though? His approval ratings are through the roof - that could be terminal for the government. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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