When will this shit end?

[Deaf Nobby Burton]

9 minutes ago, Mouseboy11 said:

Football won't start up before September even behind closed doors in my opinion.

The logistics behind it just won't work...are they going to quarantine entire squads for weeks on end. Keep players from their families? What if a player catches it? What if he spreads it to another 6 players who're then all out of comission?

This is the bit I can’t quite reconcile and get my head round. Covid-19 is not a death sentence, below 30 the mortality rate is 0.03% but in reality it will be appreciably lower than that. At some point in the next few weeks or within the next month or so lockdown will be eased for the masses. A semblance of normality will return and a lot of us will return to work etc. Some of us will get the virus as a result but most likely will be fine. But if football players/ the premier league aren’t prepared to be exposed to the slightest risk of getting it then I surely it’s not going to happen for the foreseeable future. But is that right? Healthy, young extremely well paid individuals not being prepared to be exposed to a very low risk, while the rest of us have no choice in the matter? 

[Crazyfool01]

25 minutes ago, Mouseboy11 said:

Football won't start up before September even behind closed doors in my opinion.

The logistics behind it just won't work...are they going to quarantine entire squads for weeks on end. Keep players from their families? What if a player catches it? What if he spreads it to another 6 players who're then all out of comission?

It’s interesting to see how it’s going to work ... but bundesliga is restarting I believe ... 

[zahidf]

The US states Colorado, Mississippi, Minnesota, Montana and Tennessee will join other states in the lifting of lockdown restrictions, as economists predict an unemployment rate of 16% or higher for the month of April. 

Health experts warn that increased human interaction in the reopened state economies could spark a new wave of infections with the virus that has already killed more than 54,300 Americans, Reuters reports.

The states are preparing to go back to business without the testing and contact-tracing infrastructure health experts say is needed to prevent a resurgence of infections. 

Georgia, Oklahoma, Alaska and South Carolina have already taken steps to restart their economies following a month of government-ordered lockdowns.

[zahidf]

12 minutes ago, Deaf Nobby Burton said:

This is the bit I can’t quite reconcile and get my head round. Covid-19 is not a death sentence, below 30 the mortality rate is 0.03% but in reality it will be appreciably lower than that. At some point in the next few weeks or within the next month or so lockdown will be eased for the masses. A semblance of normality will return and a lot of us will return to work etc. Some of us will get the virus as a result but most likely will be fine. But if football players/ the premier league aren’t prepared to be exposed to the slightest risk of getting it then I surely it’s not going to happen for the foreseeable future. But is that right? Healthy, young extremely well paid individuals not being prepared to be exposed to a very low risk, while the rest of us have no choice in the matter? 

It's not the individual risk which is the issue, but the risks of spreading it to someone else who will be at a much higher risk. 

[Deaf Nobby Burton]

4 minutes ago, zahidf said:

It's not the individual risk which is the issue, but the risks of spreading it to someone else who will be at a much higher risk. 

So you think that’s the concern of the premier league and it’s players? That’s the general concern right now, because we’re in lockdown and the focus is on stopping the virus spreading as much as possible. When lockdown is relaxed is that what you think will stop the premier league resuming?

[Crazyfool01]

even a mild reduction in the lockdown measures will result in a snowball effect ... more people will be saying sod it the streets look busy im going out .... 

[Cooter]

8 minutes ago, Deaf Nobby Burton said:

So you think that’s the concern of the premier league and it’s players? That’s the general concern right now, because we’re in lockdown and the focus is on stopping the virus spreading as much as possible. When lockdown is relaxed is that what you think will stop the premier league resuming?

Hopefully yes if they have a tiny teeny amount of common sense. But then money talks in this country more than anywhere else on the planet it seems.

[fatyeti24]

10 minutes ago, Deaf Nobby Burton said:

So you think that’s the concern of the premier league and it’s players? That’s the general concern right now, because we’re in lockdown and the focus is on stopping the virus spreading as much as possible. When lockdown is relaxed is that what you think will stop the premier league resuming?

There's also the worry that if someone at a club tests positive then there's going to be a lot of self isolation going on leading to fixture postponements etc.  It could be a real mess, logistically, to finish this season even if it starts up again, which is far from certain anyway.

[Matt42]

16 minutes ago, crazyfool1 said:

even a mild reduction in the lockdown measures will result in a snowball effect ... more people will be saying sod it the streets look busy im going out .... 

This is what makes me sceptical of a “easing of the lockdown” working or being any sort of progress. People are flouting now anyway. I know first hand of people that held BBQ’s today with guests (I obviously didn’t go). Any nudge towards normality and a lot of people will consider it all back to normal.

Edited April 26, 2020 by Matt42

[Crazyfool01]

1 minute ago, Matt42 said:

This is what makes me sceptical of a “easing of the lockdown”. People are flouting now anyway. I know first hand of people that held BBQ’s today with guests (I obviously didn’t go). Any nudge towards normality and a lot of people will consider it all back to normal.

yep and enforcement will therefore become impossible .... empty or semi empty streets the police can and will just ask the question as to what people are up to ... they dont stand a chance once some restrictions are lifted ... ah yes mate im just going to buy myself something from that shop thats back open that sells things that I dont really need officer ....

[Deaf Nobby Burton]

17 minutes ago, Cooter said:

Hopefully yes if they have a tiny teeny amount of common sense. But then money talks in this country more than anywhere else on the planet it seems.

Yes but my point is in a scenario where we all go back to a state of normality (not normal as we know it, but going back to work, shops open maybe even pubs open with some restrictions etc) Does football try to do the same, or do they insist that catching the virus is completely unacceptable?

[dizzymoo]

1 hour ago, steviewevie said:

I wonder what the next global crisis will be? Another pandemic, maybe man made this time? Cyber terrorism? Robots? Alien invasion? Massibe asteroid hitting the earth? Climate collapse? Sun explodes?

We've had floods, fire, locusts, plague... I reckon it must be frogs next.

[efcfanwirral]

16 minutes ago, Deaf Nobby Burton said:

Yes but my point is in a scenario where we all go back to a state of normality (not normal as we know it, but going back to work, shops open maybe even pubs open with some restrictions etc) Does football try to do the same, or do they insist that catching the virus is completely unacceptable?

To put a game on in even an empty stadium it takes dozens of people. Even just using young and healthy people if even one passes it onto someone vulnerable and they die that's one too many just for the sake of money for Sky and BT and a bunch of billionaires (the club owners I mean). 

I'm ashamed of football and the country for even considering trying to finish it to be honest. 

Edited April 26, 2020 by efcfanwirral

[Crazyfool01]

2 minutes ago, efcfanwirral said:

To put a game on in even an empty stadium it takes dozens of people. Even just using young and healthy people if even one passes it onto someone vulnerable and they die that's one too many just for the sake of money for Sky and BT and a bunch of billionaires (the owners I mean). 

I'm ashamed of football and the country for even considering trying to finish it to be honest. 

I think it was around 300 people .... im sure I read that somewhere .... just to add probably 250 people working in the day at local supermarket .....depending on size of course 

Edited April 26, 2020 by crazyfool1

[sisco]

3 minutes ago, efcfanwirral said:

To put a game on in even an empty stadium it takes dozens of people. Even just using young and healthy people if even one passes it onto someone vulnerable and they die that's one too many just for the sake of money for Sky and BT and a bunch of billionaires (the club owners I mean). 

I'm ashamed of football and the country for even considering trying to finish it to be honest. 

Tbf, what if not playing means lots of clubs go out of business (that will happen especially in the lower leagues)

[sisco]

Just to add to the football stuff, Serie A have just announced players returning to training May 4th. 

[stuartbert two hats]

The only way I can see it working if all participation in training and games requires a test.  It'll be like porn films, where one infection can shut the industry down. 

[Crazyfool01]

1 minute ago, stuartbert two hats said:

The only way I can see it working if all participation in training and games requires a test.  It'll be like porn films, where one infection can shut the industry down. 

im sure some players will be quite at home with that  

[stuartbert two hats]

Just now, crazyfool1 said:

im sure some players will be quite at home with that  

I'm sure they'll know plenty of people who can give them advice!

[Crazyfool01]

1 minute ago, stuartbert two hats said:

I'm sure they'll know plenty of people who can give them advice!

I wonder if the porn industry will get some protection  

[dentalplan]

4 minutes ago, stuartbert two hats said:

The only way I can see it working if all participation in training and games requires a test.  It'll be like porn films, where one infection can shut the industry down. 

I am pretty sure that’s what clubs are calling for. Tests before every game or something.

Arsenal’s defence will be okay. They’re always 2m away from their men.

[Noeliam]

Bars and restaurants in Italy will open on June 1.

[Deaf Nobby Burton]

40 minutes ago, efcfanwirral said:

To put a game on in even an empty stadium it takes dozens of people. Even just using young and healthy people if even one passes it onto someone vulnerable and they die that's one too many just for the sake of money for Sky and BT and a bunch of billionaires (the club owners I mean). 

I'm ashamed of football and the country for even considering trying to finish it to be honest. 

I get that, this season. I’m personally totally over it anyway. But it still doesn’t really answer my point. Are footballers classed as being totally above being exposed to it at any point ever in the future? 

[sisco]

Just now, Deaf Nobby Burton said:

I get that, this season. I’m personally totally over it anyway. But it still doesn’t really answer my point. Are footballers classed as being totally above being exposed to it at any point ever in the future? 

No they’re not.   We’ll have to all go back to work at some point (I already am as a key worker), As the economy will need the world to get back to normal.  
 

They’re part of that too.  Will just be with no crowds for a long time. 

[Ozanne]

2 hours ago, Matt42 said:

This is what makes me sceptical of a “easing of the lockdown” working or being any sort of progress. People are flouting now anyway. I know first hand of people that held BBQ’s today with guests (I obviously didn’t go). Any nudge towards normality and a lot of people will consider it all back to normal.

Did you report those people?