Henrik Posted March 19, 2020 Report Share Posted March 19, 2020 Genuinely quite scary how many people in their 30s, 40s and 50s who are ending up in intensive care from this virus. This is absolutely awful. There are so many young people I know who are not taking this seriously. Please be careful guys. This is clearly not "just like the flu" as I keep hearing. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wilby-wilbert Posted March 19, 2020 Report Share Posted March 19, 2020 8 minutes ago, eFestivals said: it's my own dodgy calc that I did in my head a few days ago. If I remember rightly I worked it from hospitalisation as 14 days for 5% of cases needing critical care (which is a best-case guess - I'm not claiming huge accuracy). Thanks, I wasnt doubting the accuracy of your numbers, just wanting to get an idea of where they came from. The unsettling thing about all of the modelling is that so much of this is based on very limited data and with so mamy variables at play and thus a serious degree of uncertainty. So we could be looking at infection rates of anywhere between say 20 and 80%, mortality rates (direct from the disease) of anywhere from below 0.5% to 5 or 6 times that, then shortages of ventilators, beds etc will have a massive effect and there will be all the deaths by other causes that wouldnt have happened were it not for the strain on the health system. It seem that in order to act rationally from the perspective of society as a whole, many will have to vastly over react from a strictly individual perspective. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zahidf Posted March 19, 2020 Report Share Posted March 19, 2020 Fingers crossed Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Splatt Posted March 19, 2020 Report Share Posted March 19, 2020 1 minute ago, zahidf said: Fingers crossed It is good news but now you need a ticket and to pass a serological test to enter the festival 😀 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
efcfanwirral Posted March 19, 2020 Report Share Posted March 19, 2020 1 hour ago, eFestivals said: unfortunately, if the NHS ran at full ramped-up capacity (about 15,000 critical care beds) treating the hospitalised, only around 45% of the population could have had the virus and acquired immunity by this time next year. For comparison, Germany (with a slightly bigger population) has 25,000 critical care beds as standard, and can (and is) ramp-up to 50,000. And when the UK did a pandemic simulation in 2016 and discovered it needed to have many more respirators in reserve.... it did absolutely fuck all. 😠 Hopefully it can be wartime production on the ventilators, spaces and getting people trained up to use them in the coming months to get our capacity up. Or will that be too expensive for them... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zahidf Posted March 19, 2020 Report Share Posted March 19, 2020 15 minutes ago, Splatt said: It is good news but now you need a ticket and to pass a serological test to enter the festival 😀 Absolutely fine with that! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thrillhouse188 Posted March 19, 2020 Report Share Posted March 19, 2020 1 hour ago, zahidf said: Fingers crossed Wonder how widespread they could use it though? Mentioned here before, a few weeks ago I had an awful flu, main symptoms being horrid fever and cough, as well as some shortness of breath at points. Morbid curiosity has me wondering if it could have been, but probably not all that useful in grand scheme of things to find out really 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zoo Music Girl Posted March 19, 2020 Report Share Posted March 19, 2020 12 minutes ago, thrillhouse188 said: Wonder how widespread they could use it though? Mentioned here before, a few weeks ago I had an awful flu, main symptoms being horrid fever and cough, as well as some shortness of breath at points. Morbid curiosity has me wondering if it could have been, but probably not all that useful in grand scheme of things to find out really It would be hugely useful for them to know if health workers etc had had it, so they could safely return to work. Whether they would make it that widespread for the rest of us, who knows? Surely a cost implication... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Toilet Duck Posted March 19, 2020 Report Share Posted March 19, 2020 2 hours ago, Henrik said: Genuinely quite scary how many people in their 30s, 40s and 50s who are ending up in intensive care from this virus. This is absolutely awful. There are so many young people I know who are not taking this seriously. Please be careful guys. This is clearly not "just like the flu" as I keep hearing. We got our first breakdown of infection demographics in Ireland yesterday. Over half of cases in the 20-40 age bracket. Frontline healthcare staff the other big group (22%). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Huckleberry Finn Posted March 19, 2020 Report Share Posted March 19, 2020 On 3/17/2020 at 4:52 PM, StoneCircle said: I am so sorry to announce this, the festival is cancelled. Source, one of Michaels daughters who is a friend of mine. With everything that is going on, the pressure on our public services, workers and the vulnerable people in our society, it is hard to know how upset you're allowed to be in this situation. A glimpse at the news agenda at the moment offers plenty of perspective. From a personal standpoint, I find social interaction and events to be a central part of managing my own mental health, so to have so many major dates gutted from the calendar is hard to accept. I'm sure like many others, I am just trying to see the other side of things, looking forward to when a degree of normality returns to our society. Of course, things are likely to get worse before they get better but I take great comfort from the idea of a light being at the end of the tunnel. Goodness knows if any of the above makes any sense. Roll on 2021. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
efcfanwirral Posted March 19, 2020 Report Share Posted March 19, 2020 34 minutes ago, thrillhouse188 said: Wonder how widespread they could use it though? Mentioned here before, a few weeks ago I had an awful flu, main symptoms being horrid fever and cough, as well as some shortness of breath at points. Morbid curiosity has me wondering if it could have been, but probably not all that useful in grand scheme of things to find out really Hopefully very widespread (not immediate obviously) but it could help return some of society to normal. Conspiracy theorists will have a field day with this one - the "mark" is a popular theory, presumably those who have "failed" will have some kind of papers or even a physical mark Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chicken Bob Posted March 19, 2020 Report Share Posted March 19, 2020 On 3/18/2020 at 7:18 AM, Hugh Jass said: I wouldn’t try aiming for the moral high ground here pal... Oh I’m already on the moral high ground. Aids joke isn’t ok but suicide joke/meme is ?? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zahidf Posted March 19, 2020 Report Share Posted March 19, 2020 It seems like japan have kept infections to 900 and are running events with audiences again Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jparx Posted March 19, 2020 Report Share Posted March 19, 2020 19 minutes ago, zahidf said: It seems like japan have kept infections to 900 and are running events with audiences again Hope that ends up being the right play and not jumping the gun. Also, if you're in to pro graps, DDT is well worth a watch. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dotdash79 Posted March 19, 2020 Report Share Posted March 19, 2020 23 hours ago, dotdash79 said: Lineup last Thursday, Interview went well on Frida, was asked about notice period and salary exceptions on Monday. Life was ok. Tuesday new job role on hold, current role made redundant (offered different role lucky for me) and my boss made redundant, big G cancelled today, almost sent me under. Can't believe it's only Wednesday. Take care people. Update they offered the role, will need to start in July, but everyone hang in things will get better. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Crazyfool01 Posted March 19, 2020 Report Share Posted March 19, 2020 Just now, dotdash79 said: Update they offered the role, will need to start in July, but everyone hang in things will get better. fantastic news Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hugh Jass Posted March 19, 2020 Report Share Posted March 19, 2020 49 minutes ago, Chicken Bob said: Oh I’m already on the moral high ground. Aids joke isn’t ok but suicide joke/meme is ?? Yup. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dotdash79 Posted March 19, 2020 Report Share Posted March 19, 2020 4 minutes ago, crazyfool1 said: fantastic news Thanks Hope you can get sorted, and aren't too badly affected by this. Retails workers are under so much pressure at the moment and some of the people that they have to deal with are dicks. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Crazyfool01 Posted March 19, 2020 Report Share Posted March 19, 2020 Just now, dotdash79 said: Thanks Hope you can get sorted, and aren't too badly affected by this. Retails workers are under so much pressure at the moment and some of the people that they have to deal with are dicks. im ok fortunate that Im not public facing at the moment ... im hiding out the back as im social distancing ... not sure how well but im trying to help morale for some of the online pickers ( for the first time since diagnosis life type 1 diabetes is worrying me ) but I also dont have some of the worries of others at the moment so im dealing ok with it .... it brings out extremes in peoples natures sometimes not rational ones with worry ... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dotdash79 Posted March 19, 2020 Report Share Posted March 19, 2020 26 minutes ago, crazyfool1 said: im ok fortunate that Im not public facing at the moment ... im hiding out the back as im social distancing ... not sure how well but im trying to help morale for some of the online pickers ( for the first time since diagnosis life type 1 diabetes is worrying me ) but I also dont have some of the worries of others at the moment so im dealing ok with it .... it brings out extremes in peoples natures sometimes not rational ones with worry ... it's not great out there but I'm hope people will settle down in the next few days as this becomes the new normal. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Crazyfool01 Posted March 19, 2020 Report Share Posted March 19, 2020 1 minute ago, dotdash79 said: it's not great out there but I'm hope people will settle down in the next few days as this becomes the new normal. I’ve been hoping that for a week ... but yes Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lukethekid Posted March 19, 2020 Report Share Posted March 19, 2020 I’m on a weeks holiday from today, I’m not looking forward to going back in next Thursday. It was going so well and then it all of sudden exploded. It’s horrific out there it’s like we’re living a disaster movie. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Crazyfool01 Posted March 19, 2020 Report Share Posted March 19, 2020 2 minutes ago, lukethekid said: I’m on a weeks holiday from today, I’m not looking forward to going back in next Thursday. It was going so well and then it all of sudden exploded. It’s horrific out there it’s like we’re living a disaster movie. All the best .. have a good week off to refresh if you can .... tough times for us at the moment ... but hopefully greater respect in the long run ... unskilled are we ? That might change .... supermarket workers the 6th emergency service !! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lukethekid Posted March 19, 2020 Report Share Posted March 19, 2020 55 minutes ago, crazyfool1 said: All the best .. have a good week off to refresh if you can .... tough times for us at the moment ... but hopefully greater respect in the long run ... unskilled are we ? That might change .... supermarket workers the 6th emergency service !! Cheers Crazy, stay safe. Clearly shows how much we’re relied on. Been to a few different shops over the past couple of days and there’s none that don’t look like they’ve been completely ransacked. It’s gonna take weeks if not months to restock the big supermarkets of people don’t calm down. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zahidf Posted March 19, 2020 Report Share Posted March 19, 2020 I like this 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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