Will Coronavirus lead to the cancellation of Glastonbury?

[Deaf Nobby Burton]

3 hours ago, NOW DRAKE said:

Will Glastonbury be cancelled. Yes. Life as we know it just got cancelled. Virus is running wild through UK, and we're not being tested. No way of knowing who has it, the only option open to protect yourself now is social distance. I'm not waiting for the government to enforce lock down, I'm avoiding contact now. Already lost my job, I was teaching EFL in Austria. I loved my life, I was planning, when my contract finished, to go and lie on a beach in Asia. Saved enough for a couple of months travelling, before I started summer school in UK. Nice idea. 

Now I'm terrified for my family and friends, Europeans are taking this seriously, UK is worried about festivals..

Reminds me that 3 wks ago, my biggest concern was, where to park my fat white ass, for a couple months in the sun. 

Good luck people 

Reckless and inaccurate statements like this don’t help anybody 

[st dan]

There will become a tipping point where the ‘health vs economic’ impacts begin to flip. Otherwise the world will essentially reset itself to zero. 

[Fred Zepplin]

The government will pull the plug rather than Eavis and it’s a matter of when it’s cancelled rather than if In my opinion unfortunately. As some people have said they can’t have emergency services in a field in Somerset when they will need to be deployed elsewhere. How can they justify it when there are talks of getting retired people back in the hospitals and the army out on the streets. I just wish they would put us all out of our misery and tell us it’s cancelled so we can all move on. I also think they will give people with first tickets first refusal for next year, I do have a ticket but if I didn’t I would still think the same. 

[squirrelarmy]

1 minute ago, st dan said:

There will become a tipping point where the ‘health vs economic’ impacts begin to flip. Otherwise the world will essentially reset itself to zero. 

Economic ruin is just as dangerous to life as the virus. Maybe more so. 

[stuartbert two hats]

1 hour ago, Spindles said:

Hopefully just a cold or something but I'd not been able to shake off a headache all day yesterday and I've been up all night shaking and shivering and wheezing and coughing.  I just can't get to sleep for the feeling that it's freezing cold even with heating on full blast and wrapped in blankets.  I've now given up trying to sleep and got up for a cup of coffee and some paracetamol for breakfast.

It's like a 4 word horror story:  Have I got it?

You may well not. But I would self isolate.

[iloveglasto2020]

54 minutes ago, Lycra said:

Morning Campers, news from the front line.

48 hrs since it went into isolation mode Nurse Lycra reports that her unit have still to receive a covid 19 patient. Several have been admitted query covid 19 but it turned out they are suffering from other corona viruses. All hospital visiting has been cancelled and staff from other units are being trained in barrier nursing respiratory care. 

Is nurse Lycra an ICU nurse? I’m an ICU nurse in NZ...we’re bracing and waiting, but hoping we manage to keep numbers low...8 cases and tight border restrictions now 🤞🤞🤞🤞

[Memory Man]

Why is everyone thinking a postponement till august isnt doable? It is surely the best outcome for all parties.

[MetaKate]

2 minutes ago, squirrelarmy said:

Economic ruin is just as dangerous to life as the virus. Maybe more so. 

Exactly. This is going to be massive economically and a lot of small and large businesses are going to fail, and a lot of people are going to lose jobs permanently. I still have hope, the world cant shut down for the duration of this virus. It will likely lead to an unrecoverable recession. Oil is at 77 cents here in Calgary... the lowest in probably 10 years. 

If the world is still shut down in June... we are fucked for reasons way beyond the virus.

[NerdsNatterings]

Just now, Memory Man said:

Why is everyone thinking a postponement till august isnt doable? It is surely the best outcome for all parties.

I guess there's still no guarantee they'd be able to go ahead in August, but also they'd have to book an almost entirely new line-up, have to get a license for the new weekend etc. Not that it isn't doable, just pretty difficult.

[Deaf Nobby Burton]

6 minutes ago, st dan said:

There will become a tipping point where the ‘health vs economic’ impacts begin to flip. Otherwise the world will essentially reset itself to zero. 

I don’t care what anyone says, this has nothing to do with Glastonbury. At the moment the potentials fallout is not even close to proportionate to the threat.

[Memory Man]

3 minutes ago, NerdsNatterings said:

I guess there's still no guarantee they'd be able to go ahead in August, but also they'd have to book an almost entirely new line-up, have to get a license for the new weekend etc. Not that it isn't doable, just pretty difficult.

I reckon there is more goodwill among artists for this event than you realise. People will move things around for glastonbury. Not everyone, but most

if we’re still in quarantine / isolation by august the economy will have gone down the pan. Primavera is about to postpone to august

Edited March 16, 2020 by Memory Man

[stuartbert two hats]

12 minutes ago, Deaf Nobby Burton said:

Reckless and inaccurate statements like this don’t help anybody 

I know "running wild" is a dramatic way of putting it, and isn't the wording I would use as it suggests a magnitude that we don't have evidence for - but it's not inaccurate. We have confirmed community spread, which is why testing has been deprioritised in this country.

[MEGABOWL]

13 minutes ago, squirrelarmy said:

Economic ruin is just as dangerous to life as the virus. Maybe more so. 

Indeed. This is getting forgotten in the panic. Millions of people lose their livelihoods-massive rise in Mental Health issues, poverty, alcoholism, suicide, all the rest. 
 

I’m not convinced it will save Glastonbury but they simply can’t shut society down for months. 

[Ozanne]

1 hour ago, Zoo Music Girl said:

How do you imagine these being enforced? Genuinely interested before the positivity crew jump down my throat.

Got a message from my work to work from home for the next four weeks instead of the staggered workforce thing they had been attempting. Pretty mad. I think they changed their mind over the weekend.

Haven't been able to get toilet roll in our supermarkets for over a week now. This really does bring out the worst in people. I saw two women carrying bin bags full of it on Saturday.

What type of staggered working did your work put in place? I’m not working from home yet, they’ve spilt the work force, half work from home for 2 weeks and the other is in the office for 2 weeks then it switches. We can’t socialise with the people in the other group at all. I imagine by end of the month though I’ll be working from home though.

[kalifire]

1 hour ago, Zoo Music Girl said:

How do you imagine these being enforced?

Trust. Obviously this is open to abuse, but it’s the best they can do, to appeal to everyone’s better nature. If the festival is allowed to go ahead, there will be an assumption of widespread infection anyway, and this would be accommodated into UK’s strategy. This isn’t about stopping it, just limiting it and protecting the most vulnerable.

It’ll ultimately be up to those of us who go to take responsibility for the risk we’re taking, as is the wider case anyway. No government can truly manage a virus. 

[Lycra]

21 minutes ago, iloveglasto2020 said:

Is nurse Lycra an ICU nurse? I’m an ICU nurse in NZ...we’re bracing and waiting, but hoping we manage to keep numbers low...8 cases and tight border restrictions now 🤞🤞🤞🤞

Critical & acute respiratory. Tends a wide range of adults and unfortunately far too many DNAR's. Stay safe 🤞

[Deaf Nobby Burton]

15 minutes ago, MEGABOWL said:

Indeed. This is getting forgotten in the panic. Millions of people lose their livelihoods-massive rise in Mental Health issues, poverty, alcoholism, suicide, all the rest. 
 

I’m not convinced it will save Glastonbury but they simply can’t shut society down for months. 

This is my main concern now. Most health experts and people like Piers Morgan whipping people up into a frenzy can afford to talk in absolutes. They’re only looking at things from the point of view of stopping the virus and absolutely nothing else. Most of the population don’t have that luxury. These extreme measures of everything shutting down can only be short and sharp, anything beyond that and we will end up a situation where the consequences are significantly worse for the vast majority of people compared to just letting the virus run its course. I’d rather catch the virus and it kill me than see my life go down the toilet in every way possible. The potential fall out from this is no way to live.

You know what, it’s going to be shit for the over 70s to try and isolate for months, but the reality is they can do it without their lives falling apart.

I can’t and neither can the majority of the working population.

[steviewevie]

With the economy I guess they're hoping that we'll bounce back after the worst of it has gone through in a few months. They've obviously modelled it and death rate could be high...which is why you're seeing sych draconian measures. Govt and banks are already taking drastic measures, cutting rates and chucking money at it.

[robu]

1 hour ago, kalifire said:

Currently of the opinion that:

• Glastonbury will go ahead, but at-risk groups will be asked not to attend, and may possibly be refused entry
• Those showing any symptoms will be asked not to attend and be offered a refund, right up to gates opening
• A second resale will occur much closer to the start of the festival
• Many of the acts billed will pull out, including headliners
• Other acts will step into the gap. Coldplay will win many people over
• Medical attention will be filled by utilising a volunteer network
• It will be unlike any Glastonbury Festival there's ever been. Ultimately it will restore faith in humanity

 

I like what you're saying, but it's 100% wishful thinking. If it's in any way the result of a rational, considered thought process, can I please have some of what you're smoking. 

[kalifire]

2 minutes ago, robu said:

I like what you're saying, but it's 100% wishful thinking. If it's in any way the result of a rational, considered thought process, can I please have some of what you're smoking. 

Of course it is. I’m making no pretence of the fact that I’m wishing for the things I want to happen.

But just calling it irrational isn’t an argument. I could see this happening if circumstances allow. If they don’t, we’re all screwed and Glastonbury isn’t happening. Why you’d jump to that particular scenario and insult anyone who doesn’t share it, especially without explaining yourself, is a bit of a mystery. 

[zahidf]

"The government has got this all wrong, let's ignore them"

"Of course we'll all comply with a govt-ordered lockdown for six months."

 

I'm assuming it isnt happening now but I'm hoping I'm wrong. I personally dont think the lockdown will last more than 3/4 weeks. Once numbers (hopefully) go down, theyll say its under control and will advise washing hands

[robu]

3 minutes ago, kalifire said:

Of course it is. I’m making no pretence of the fact that I’m wishing for the things I want to happen.

But just calling it irrational isn’t an argument. I could see this happening if circumstances allow. If they don’t, we’re all screwed and Glastonbury isn’t happening. Why you’d jump to that particular scenario and insult anyone who doesn’t share it, especially without explaining yourself, is a bit of a mystery. 

Genuinely apologise if you're insulted. Not my intention at all.

However, the first line of your post was 'Currently of the opinion', which infers a considered, informed judgment (cf when we ask doctors or lawyers for their professional opinion). Hence my inference that it was a considered statement, not wishful thinking.

[Deaf Nobby Burton]

4 minutes ago, kalifire said:

Of course it is. I’m making no pretence of the fact that I’m wishing for the things I want to happen.

But just calling it irrational isn’t an argument. I could see this happening if circumstances allow. If they don’t, we’re all screwed and Glastonbury isn’t happening. Why you’d jump to that particular scenario and insult anyone who doesn’t share it, especially without explaining yourself, is a bit of a mystery. 

I’ll admit that if somebody put a gun to my head right now and asked me will Glastonbury go ahead I’d say no, but I do largely agree with all your points about how it might.

Most people process the information as it comes, so everyone is naturally getting more and more pessimistic. The reality is where we are now is exactly where we were expected to be when the poster dropped, or if anything we are in a slightly better position.

Where we are in a couple of months won’t be a surprise the experts or the government. We are going to see stricter measures and they may or may not impact Glastonbury, but they will be relatively short. Anybody who thinks they will go on indefinitely is deluded.

The one single thing I see stopping Glastonbury is the availability of medics, that could be a problem or by then it might be ok. At this stage we simply don’t know.

[Deaf Nobby Burton]

Parking Glastonbury to one side for a bit... The more I think about it the more I can see stricter measures being put in place, but once we hit a peak a campaign to push us back into Restaurants, pubs etc etc 

[steviewevie]

I know being a pessimist on here so uncool, but we're fucked.