Corona Virus - Should we be worried?

[The Red Telephone]

If I read a Daily Mail article and I feel much more positive about affairs than I did before I read it....DOES THAT MEAN I’VE GOT THE VIRUS?!?!

[squirrelarmy]

33 minutes ago, Andy0808 v5 said:

phone won’t allow me to quote and paste for some reason.

Cheers for that. Somehow I’m out of upvotes already today.

Great advice and it’s good information especially for the fails target audience. Hopefully they’ll read it and not use it as toilet paper. 

[Deaf Nobby Burton]

I was reading this article yesterday about the British couple who caught It on the plane to Hanoi:

https://www.theguardian.com/world/2020/mar/09/british-couple-contract-virus-on-flight-from-heathrow-to-vietnam
 

Unless I’m reading it incorrectly which is highly possible, it appears that despite being 68 & 69 respectively, despite testing positive for the virus they never actually displayed any symptoms at any point?

So despite being a lot more dangerous in older people, equally it can also be extremely mild amongst them as well? So it’s seemingly more often than not a combination of both age and underlying medical conditions that make it more dangerous?

One thing is for sure if they were never tracked down after the woman tested positive they would’ve carried in spreading it all over the place even more, this must be happening everywhere all the time.

Edited March 10, 2020 by Deaf Nobby Burton

[Gwladboy]

3 hours ago, Gregfc15 said:

Before this thread goes completely off the rails after the Coachella news;

At this stage, This seems to be a Coachella led decision due to fear that the Riverside Council would pull their permits the way the City of Austin did to South by Southwest. They are looking to postpone to try and salvage the event.  Medical Opinion in Riverside County seems to be getting influenced by Dr David Agus, a Cancer specialist who owns a genomics company,  Author and CBS news contributor. All this taking place in country with a poor and fractured response between the various levels of government to the outbreak.

The UK have a nonpartisan, independent expert epidemiologist advising. As long as the strategy between The UK government, Mendip council and  GFL stays consistent, and the communication to the public remains the same, this isn’t a death knell. It feels like a massive kick in the nuts right now, but it probably doesn’t have any real relevance apart from the avalanche of “will Glastonbury go ahead stories?” that we’ll face over the next week.

Exactly.  Not sure why so many people want to draw parallels between Glastonbury and Coachella. Apart from it being ‘a big festival’ the similarities end there.  The funding, the sponsorship, the fact that it’s in a completely different country at a different time of the year.

Cheltenham going ahead says it all about how worried we should be at the moment. 

Queue the doom-mongers response...

[hfuhruhurr]

26 minutes ago, The Red Telephone said:

If I read a Daily Mail article and I feel much more positive about affairs than I did before I read it....DOES THAT MEAN I’VE GOT THE VIRUS?!?!

Yes, and worse you have underlying issues which made you click the link. You be fucked.

[a6l6e6x]

1 hour ago, Friendly Banter said:

I work with players/teams for community outreach and visibility. Basically if you see a player/team showing up somewhere that is not basketball related, Ive likely had a direct part in organizing and connecting those branches. I used to work at a prominent sports agency  so thats how I got the gig.

Super jealous of this job

 

Definitely spells the end of times if the daily mail are posting positive news articles, if anything this makes me even more concerned since they never report anything with facts to back it up

[Mr.Tease]

3 hours ago, Friendly Banter said:

Im honestly pretty confident that Glastonbury will be on the safe side of the quarantines that inevitably will happen over the next couple months.   

The NBA will play games without fans in arenas soon. Today they limited locker room to restricted personnel.  I work for the league and we are having a huge call tomorrow and talk Wednesday about procedures going forward.   

And not to stir up the pot any more than it needs to be, but I had a conversation with a high ranking US General and they estimate that China had 10s of millions infected before anything was ever reported. He said some internal data had it estimating as high as 50 million infected at the beginning of February. 

And if you can't trust a US general when it comes to foreign policy, who can you trust? 😂

[Garrett_Salas]

Italy going on a nationwide lockdown and arguably the largest music festival in the world postponed but apparently it's doom mongering to suggest that Glastonbury may not be immune to cancellation because it's the 50th anniversary and the organisers really want it to happen.

[Deaf Nobby Burton]

1 minute ago, Garrett_Salas said:

Italy going on a nationwide lockdown and arguably the largest music festival in the world postponed but apparently it's doom mongering to suggest that Glastonbury may not be immune to cancellation because it's the 50th anniversary and the organisers really want it to happen.

I think some people are just trying to remain level headed. Italy are in lockdown for a month, and Coachella is next month. If Glastonbury was next month then yes recent events would make it highly questionable that it was going ahead. But it’s at the end of June.

[Homer]

Re events getting postponed, I was chatting to the MD of a large catering company last night. I was mentioning (food) industry events in the UK that are getting postponed. He told me that those events won’t be happening; that they just have to say ‘postponed’ for insurance purposes.

[Ozanne]

4 minutes ago, Garrett_Salas said:

Italy going on a nationwide lockdown and arguably the largest music festival in the world postponed but apparently it's doom mongering to suggest that Glastonbury may not be immune to cancellation because it's the 50th anniversary and the organisers really want it to happen.

You clearly haven’t read all the reasons people are confident of it happening. The reason you mentioned has been posted once 🙄

[Hugh Jass]

Would moving GF back to, say, early September work?

[hfuhruhurr]

with the self isolation directive for anyone with anything snivelly (?) I'm going to make a killing selling hats with "It's hay fever you numpty".

[the wonderwhy]

1 minute ago, Hugh Jass said:

Would moving GF back to, say, early September work?

I think that Coachella has a massive advantage over Glastonbury in the postponing department in that they've put on a festival in October before and they've got a bunch of money that can throw at either getting acts to re-route their tours, or getting new acts in.

[squirrelarmy]

1 minute ago, Hugh Jass said:

Would moving GF back to, say, early September work?

Moving Glastonbury isn’t an option. It’s based on a number of working dairy farms. 
 

That’s before you even think about artist scheduling and catering arrangements. Or the dreaded weather. 
 

It won’t get moved, it’s not going to be cancelled either!

[Mr.Tease]

5 minutes ago, Hugh Jass said:

Would moving GF back to, say, early September work?

British weather gods laugh and encourage you to try it

[Billy Corgan's Ego]

If Glastonbury was in April, there would be zero chance of it being on. None at all.

The possibility of a cancellation decreases with every month after this IMO. I'd feel more comfortable if it was in July/August but think we are OK with it being end of June.

It's really impossible to say with any certainty though. 

[jparx]

2 minutes ago, Billy Corgan's Ego said:

If Glastonbury was in April, there would be zero chance of it being on. None at all.

The possibility of a cancellation decreases with every month after this IMO. I'd feel more comfortable if it was in July/August but think we are OK with it being end of June.

It's really impossible to say with any certainty though. 

We wont have any indication until May.

Meaning this thread will go around in circles for two more months 😑

[fatyeti24]

I think the risk to Glastonbury lies as much in getting all the infrastructure in place as it does from a direct cancellation.  Think of all the workers, traders, supplies, equipment etc.

Remember 2016 when they couldn't get the tracks from Download?  Well that, but on a much bigger scale.

[Ozanne]

Don’t come in it then.

[squirrelarmy]

@Matt42 and any others scared about the apparent high death rate please read this article. 
 

https://slate.com/technology/2020/03/coronavirus-mortality-rate-lower-than-we-think.html?fbclid=IwAR2GqkqqW4-2G5hFOTw9kdQOAMPoSiS9Wzfow9W1EejbhrsFysLbmP7ZZ50

[Garrett_Salas]

23 minutes ago, Deaf Nobby Burton said:

I think some people are just trying to remain level headed. Italy are in lockdown for a month, and Coachella is next month. If Glastonbury was next month then yes recent events would make it highly questionable that it was going ahead. But it’s at the end of June.

Sorry, i came across a bit snarky. I just find it odd that people that are saying they're 100% sure it's going ahead are the level headed ones and that people who are showing concern are doom mongering daily mail readers. You look around the world and there's now a lot of precedent for large gatherings being cancelled - not even just Coachella. There's no clear evidence that this will be done and dusted by June.

Does anyone's opinion on this make any difference? No and fair play if you want to stay optimistic, but optimism isnt an argument.

Edited March 10, 2020 by Garrett_Salas

[jparx]

12 minutes ago, fatyeti24 said:

I think the risk to Glastonbury lies as much in getting all the infrastructure in place as it does from a direct cancellation.  Think of all the workers, traders, supplies, equipment etc.

Remember 2016 when they couldn't get the tracks from Download?  Well that, but on a much bigger scale.

Also the events happening in the next month have had very little notice to get things prepared. Festivals in June at least now have a few months to put extra provisions in place. It may or may not go ahead, but it won't be for a lack of trying and preparation.

Edited March 10, 2020 by jparx

[Lycra]

20 minutes ago, squirrelarmy said:

Moving Glastonbury isn’t an option. It’s based on a number of working dairy farms. 
 

That’s before you even think about artist scheduling and catering arrangements. Or the dreaded weather. 
 

It won’t get moved, it’s not going to be cancelled 

I'm with you here on postponement. The logistics are just too great an issue to overcome. 

Concerning cancellation, I'm not so confident this won't happen. If the government start restricting gatherings, as is being suggested, then it will be hard to predict an end date for these. For example, I recall the temporary restrictions imposed during the foot and mouth outbreak lasting 6 months. Similarly, if the agreement of no cancellation is made based on Chris Whitty's remarks that open air events pose low risk, why is government and sport looking at holding football matches etc.  behind closed doors?

[Homer]

7 minutes ago, Garrett_Salas said:

Sorry, i came across a bit snarky. I just find it odd that people that are saying they're 100% sure it's going ahead are the level headed ones and that people who are showing concern are doom mongering daily mail readers. You look around the world and there's now a lot of precedent for large gatherings being cancelled - not even just Coachella. There's no clear evidence that this will be done and dusted by June.

Does anyone's opinion on this make any difference? No and fair play if you want to stay optimistic, but optimism isnt an argument.

It’s like Brexit I guess: you need to believe in it to make it all work out okay