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Corona Virus - Should we be worried?


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4 minutes ago, RarerThanDandyB said:

One thing we all know is America over reacts. I’ve gone from not worrying at all, to worrying about it potentially being cancelled and it’s getting draining. Mainly cause it’s the focal point of my year like many others. Now i think American acts will be on jeopardy. I mean we can’t do anything but wait, so plan the best you can and if the worst happens it happens. 

I do wonder who will headline if Kendrick and Taylor have to pull out or if the worst case happens and Macca pulls out due to health (please no Coldplay jokes)

Coldplay jokes aside, Coldplay will likely step in

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4 minutes ago, RarerThanDandyB said:

 

I do wonder who will headline if Kendrick and Taylor have to pull out or if the worst case happens and Macca pulls out due to health (please no Coldplay jokes)

Just goes to show it should have been Kasabian, Arctics, and Oasis all along, none of this fancy international liberal crap. Neil Lonsdale is vindicated, finally. 
 

(jk)

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22 minutes ago, squirrelarmy said:

There’s a big indoor rave festival in Germany which is in a region with a lot of cases still planning to go ahead next month. 
 

If the Germans aren’t afraid to keep partying then we have no choice but to carry on.

They have tons of music festivals open air soon. Let's see what happen to Rock Am Ring which is also very huge and with camping in the beginning of June. 

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For Taylor & Kendrick pretty sure they could carry on - they’ll be flying on private planes anyway, kept away from the public, escorted on & off site - don’t imagine much increased risk compared to them staying in the US. 

Might mean Taylor can’t see the rest of the festival quite how she’d intended! (If I remember her comments right...)

For international acts lower down the lineup who fly commercial there would be more risk, but that’s not just for Glastonbury - it’s going to affect lots of tours and gigs. Should get a good indication of this seeing what gets cancelled over the next few weeks...

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27 minutes ago, Ayrshire Chris said:

I said it often, if they cancel Glastonbury and other festivals but allow perceived establishment events such as the boat race, Wimbledon, ascot and open golf where their is mass gatherings then it’s time comrades to start the revolution.

If anything’s going to happen it’ll be this, they don’t care they just crave power and the illusion of doing something hella then maintain that. 

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I’ve taken such a 180 on this, and I’m not really concerned at all anymore. By June this will be a settled problem in pretty much every country. What’s the point in an artist not travelling if it’s just as prevalent at home as it is in another country?

Look at the graphs, pretty much all major countries are moving to pretty much an equal weight of cases. You’re just as likely to catch it in your town centre as going to a different country.

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A senior government medical adviser has told members of the music industry it is unnecessary to ban live events in the UK over concerns about coronavirus.

The number of cases of COVID-19 in the UK rose to 164 today (March 6), with two deaths confirmed so far.

In a conference call held with members of the UK Live Music Group and other event organisers earlier this week (March 2), deputy chief medical officer Jonathan Van-Tam said there was “no clear rationale” for cancelling events in the wake of the global pandemic. According to industry website IQ, he explained that because the virus has a relatively small radius of infection of approximately two metres, the most likely places of infection were homes, schools, workplaces, pubs and public transport.

ead of event operations has said the festival team were “closely monitoring developments”.

“We work closely with all of the relevant agencies, including Public Health England and the NHS, and always review our plans as any circumstances change,” Adrian Coombs said. “With this in mind and with our 2020 Festival still 16 weeks away, we continue to plan and prepare for the event, whilst at the same time closely monitoring developments with the coronavirus situation.



 


 

 

 

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1 minute ago, Matt42 said:

I’ve taken such a 180 on this, and I’m not really concerned at all anymore. By June this will be a settled problem in pretty much every country. What’s the point in an artist not travelling if it’s just as prevalent at home as it is in another country?

Look at the graphs, pretty much all major countries are moving to pretty much an equal weight of cases. You’re just as likely to catch it in your town centre as going to a different country.

This is my thinking, if America didn’t have it then you could understand the reasoning but they do, everywhere has it so not travelling doesn’t make sense.

The only way it would make sense is if countries shut their borders completely. But unless they do this I just don’t see the point in trying to contain things by cancelling big events, because you’re still letting millions of people into your country every day that could bring it back in and make all your efforts redundant.

I think somebody posted this yesterday, but did anyone see the health expert on the news give a very good explanation of why cancelling large events wouldn’t work? The idea being an infected person has a very low chance of infecting a higher number of people at something like Glastonbury. But if you cancel Glastonbury they likely just go down the pub where they have a very high chance of infecting a lower number of people. So ultimately it’s swings and roundabouts.

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26 minutes ago, nban2010 said:

SXSW Cancelled now. My inside source who works at Glasto also said an emergency meeting was held on Fri to discuss contingency plans - which I can imagine is standard but shit is getting a bit real.

I mean, we're a small local gallery in the middle of Essex and we had a meeting yesterday to discuss what to do when cases get more prevalent.

All businesses are doing it. 

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Did anyone else watch late news last night, especially BBC, and notice a slightly more rational approach to the reporting?  More mention of recovery numbers highlighting over half of global cases now recovered, the likelihood of a mild infection to the vast majority and new infection rates continuing to fall in China.

They weren't saying we're out of the woods by any means but there was a different tone to recent days....OfCom told them to rein it in maybe?

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Just now, parsonjack said:

Did anyone else watch late news last night, especially BBC, and notice a slightly more rational approach to the reporting?  More mention of recovery numbers highlighting over half of global cases now recovered, the likelihood of a mild infection to the vast majority and new infection rates continuing to fall in China.

They weren't saying we're out of the woods by any means but there was a different tone to recent days....OfCom told them to rein it in maybe?

Funnily enough I happened to catch what must have been points of view, or the equivalent of that for BBC news this morning. They had a number of complaints from people about their coverage, specifically one chap who complained that they used the word ‘surge’ in a headline to describe the amount of cases increasing by 26 from one day to the next.

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6 minutes ago, parsonjack said:

Did anyone else watch late news last night, especially BBC, and notice a slightly more rational approach to the reporting? 

If the media start behaving rationally we really do have something to worry about.

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17 minutes ago, chazwwe said:

I mean, we're a small local gallery in the middle of Essex and we had a meeting yesterday to discuss what to do when cases get more prevalent.

All businesses are doing it. 

Our place has a daily meeting about it but our main business areas are providing gp systems, community pharmacy systems, emergency administration system, hospital pharmacy and prescribing along with pathology request, messaging and results. 

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18 minutes ago, cidy said:

 

Stick😀

A senior government medical adviser has told members of the music industry it is unnecessary to ban live events in the UK over concerns about coronavirus.

The number of cases of COVID-19 in the UK rose to 164 today (March 6), with two deaths confirmed so far.

In a conference call held with members of the UK Live Music Group and other event organisers earlier this week (March 2), deputy chief medical officer Jonathan Van-Tam said there was “no clear rationale” for cancelling events in the wake of the global pandemic. According to industry website IQ, he explained that because the virus has a relatively small radius of infection of approximately two metres, the most likely places of infection were homes, schools, workplaces, pubs and public transport.

ead of event operations has said the festival team were “closely monitoring developments”.

“We work closely with all of the relevant agencies, including Public Health England and the NHS, and always review our plans as any circumstances change,” Adrian Coombs said. “With this in mind and with our 2020 Festival still 16 weeks away, we continue to plan and prepare for the event, whilst at the same time closely monitoring developments with the coronavirus situation.



 


 

 

 

Speaking on March 2 he was correct. There was no justification then. Problem is we're on an upward trajectory and 4 days later the number of cases had quadrupled, we had 2 deaths and had 2 Heathrow baggage handlers infected. The latter could suggest transfer from an infected surface. As it stands today it is highly unlikely curtailing crowds at sports events  festivals etc can be justified but this could quickly change.

How do events operative if we need a 2 metre radius of space between each other? For every person with corona watching the headliner on the Pyramid Stage that's potentially 20+ others infected.

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32 minutes ago, parsonjack said:

Did anyone else watch late news last night, especially BBC, and notice a slightly more rational approach to the reporting?  More mention of recovery numbers highlighting over half of global cases now recovered, the likelihood of a mild infection to the vast majority and new infection rates continuing to fall in China.

They weren't saying we're out of the woods by any means but there was a different tone to recent days....OfCom told them to rein it in maybe?

Probably taking a more balanced tone to stop people panicking.

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2 hours ago, Zoo Music Girl said:

I agree they were being defeatist but this is also not true. Some people always have to miss out as demand is greater than supply, no matter how prepared or motivated. I was both in October and far from my first rodeo. I get that there are further opportunities but I think this poster is abroad which does limit how late you can leave it to confirm your spot.

All that said, I stand by my point that I've had about a 70% success rate in the main sale, so it certainly isn't impossible and shouldn't be assumed that one chance is all you get, as they seemed to be.

I never said you were guaranteed a ticket if you were prepared and motivated, there’s another gazillion people trying as well and you may be unfortunate and miss out but as long as you are prepared to the best you can be you have as good a chance as anyone. 

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