hfuhruhurr Posted March 4, 2020 Report Share Posted March 4, 2020 1 minute ago, northernringo said: I agree with the majority of your post but where have you got that statistic from? https://www.worldometers.info/coronavirus/coronavirus-age-sex-demographics/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eFestivals Posted March 4, 2020 Report Share Posted March 4, 2020 18 minutes ago, Deaf Nobby Burton said: If Glastonbury is cancelled, then you would assume every other festival will be too? Or at least every other camping festival? And if not then I guess they’d put some arbitrary attendance figure on what gets cancelled and what doesn’t? But let’s say they set that at 100k, Glastonbury gets cancelled but loads of others don’t, but then cumulatively all the ones that don’t get cancelled would have a much higher attendance figure than Glastonbury so collectively will still create a bigger issue than Glastonbury on its own, so basically that would be pointless as well. So realistically it has to be all or none, but what would happen then? Surely you’d get (illegal?) mass gatherings set up all over the place anyway? it'll be something like "all gatherings of more than X amount of people". I reckon it'll be over a few hundred - they're not going to be fucking up people's weddings - but beyond that it's just about impossible to know what they might set the number at. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deaf Nobby Burton Posted March 4, 2020 Report Share Posted March 4, 2020 7 minutes ago, hfuhruhurr said: For those who are saying "this is just a bloody cold" then try to imagine you're over 80 or that someone you love is over 80. The confirmed case death rate for over 80s is 20%. That's not trivial, so please don't make light of this. There's no need to panic, but there's every need to care for the weak and elderly. I agree with you, I don’t have any grandparents left but my parents are in their seventies so naturally I’m concerned for them. That said, when you get into your 80s... most things are pretty dangerous and likely to kill you, bog standard old flu included. Like it or not it’s just a fact of life. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Splatt Posted March 4, 2020 Report Share Posted March 4, 2020 3 minutes ago, Havors said: China hasnt even gotten into the hundreds of thousands.... That's because they haven't released the control measures yet. They need to and then more will become infected. It's all about controlling aka delaying the impact of a large number of people being ill. It will be almost impossible to eradicate it from the country therefore the epidemic will continue across the country in a hopefully controlled manner. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hodgey123 Posted March 4, 2020 Report Share Posted March 4, 2020 Someone in my office in London has been tested positive for this. I am working from home today but will be back in next week, but the offices have all been deep-cleaned etc. Quite unsettling now it is in my office, but still think that the precautions taken mean that the virus will be spread as little as possible! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Havors Posted March 4, 2020 Report Share Posted March 4, 2020 1 minute ago, Splatt said: That's because they haven't released the control measures yet. They need to and then more will become infected. It's all about controlling aka delaying the impact of a large number of people being ill. It will be almost impossible to eradicate it from the country therefore the epidemic will continue across the country in a hopefully controlled manner. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deaf Nobby Burton Posted March 4, 2020 Report Share Posted March 4, 2020 (edited) 5 minutes ago, eFestivals said: it'll be something like "all gatherings of more than X amount of people". I reckon it'll be over a few hundred - they're not going to be fucking up people's weddings - but beyond that it's just about impossible to know what they might set the number at. Yeah that was my thinking, if G goes then everything has to, otherwise what’s the point, if you allow much smaller events to go ahead when you tot them all up they still present the same opportunity to spread the virus as one big event. I’m just struggling to get my head round the knock on effect of cancelling every music festival. Surely free enterprise kicks in resulting in loads of black market events? Edited March 4, 2020 by Deaf Nobby Burton Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
northernringo Posted March 4, 2020 Report Share Posted March 4, 2020 9 minutes ago, hfuhruhurr said: https://www.worldometers.info/coronavirus/coronavirus-age-sex-demographics/ Will take a look, thanks! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FestivalJamie Posted March 4, 2020 Report Share Posted March 4, 2020 (edited) 16 minutes ago, Havors said: China hasnt even gotten into the hundreds of thousands.... Because China has literally locked down a whole region of its country, forced cities to close their borders with no one allowed to travel in and out. If European countries don't follow a similar tactic then the cases throughout Europe could easily spiral to hundreds of thousands. They also have a compulsory phone app in china where you can see where the nearest person diagnosed with the virus is compared to where you are(exact distance), and you are screened to see if you have the virus upon entering shopping centres etc and if you are entering or leaving the country. Edited March 4, 2020 by FestivalJamie Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
morph100 Posted March 4, 2020 Report Share Posted March 4, 2020 14 minutes ago, eFestivals said: it'll be something like "all gatherings of more than X amount of people". I reckon it'll be over a few hundred - they're not going to be fucking up people's weddings - but beyond that it's just about impossible to know what they might set the number at. 5,000 was the french figure presumingly picked out the air but could see something similar for us. so all sporting event, concerts etc but not weddings and other smaller gatherings. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CJTM Posted March 4, 2020 Report Share Posted March 4, 2020 4 minutes ago, FestivalJamie said: Because China has literally locked down a whole region of its country, forced cities to close their borders with no one allowed to travel in and out. If European countries don't follow a similar tactic then the cases throughout Europe could easily spiral to hundreds of thousands. If you're not a medical professional or related, I suggest you take a read of this and follow suit - https://metro.co.uk/2020/03/04/liverpool-manager-jurgen-klopp-washes-hands-coronavirus-questions-superb-rant-12345493/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
morph100 Posted March 4, 2020 Report Share Posted March 4, 2020 39 minutes ago, Quark said: Basically it'll be a 3-day Brits night Sounds like a perfectly good weekend to me 🙂 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SalviaPlath Posted March 4, 2020 Report Share Posted March 4, 2020 7 minutes ago, FestivalJamie said: They also have a compulsory phone app in china where you can see where the nearest person diagnosed with the virus is compared to where you are(exact distance), and you are screened to see if you have the virus upon entering shopping centres etc and if you are entering or leaving the country. The app is known to share data with the police so I'm not sure that's a road we want to be going down. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheWaters Posted March 4, 2020 Report Share Posted March 4, 2020 The only positive of all festivals and gigs being cancelled due to the virus would be a sudden £800+ into my bank from refunds lmao 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chazwwe Posted March 4, 2020 Report Share Posted March 4, 2020 38 minutes ago, hfuhruhurr said: For those who are saying "this is just a bloody cold" then try to imagine you're over 80 or that someone you love is over 80. The confirmed case death rate for over 80s is 20%. That's not trivial, so please don't make light of this. There's no need to panic, but there's every need to care for the weak and elderly. Or someone that has had major chest surgery. Asthma, high blood pressure, shadows on their lungs and a low immune system. If I were to catch it I have a very high chance of not surviving despite being in my 20s. This is a real thing Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Quark Posted March 4, 2020 Report Share Posted March 4, 2020 This is happening now if anyone's interested in following Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
squirrelarmy Posted March 4, 2020 Report Share Posted March 4, 2020 (edited) 6 minutes ago, chazwwe said: Or someone that has had major chest surgery. Asthma, high blood pressure, shadows on their lungs and a low immune system. If I were to catch it I have a very high chance of not surviving despite being in my 20s. This is a real thing All the more reason why the young and low risk should avoid going to the hospital unless absolutely necessary to make sure they aren’t over capacity in case high risk patients like yourself need treatment. Edited March 4, 2020 by squirrelarmy Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spindles Posted March 4, 2020 Report Share Posted March 4, 2020 38 minutes ago, hodgey123 said: Someone in my office in London has been tested positive for this. It was sort of inevitable that the initial blooms would be London/SE and Manchester/NW. The data that is going to come out of this event is going to be so valuable for our learning and confirming/denying theories that exist in epidemiology at present. From a coldly interested viewpoint the whole thing is fascinating to observe. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
plot2pot Posted March 4, 2020 Report Share Posted March 4, 2020 6 minutes ago, Quark said: This is happening now if anyone's interested in following Go on, ask them about Glastonbury. Dare ya. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hodgey123 Posted March 4, 2020 Report Share Posted March 4, 2020 Just now, Spindles said: It was sort of inevitable that the initial blooms would be London/SE and Manchester/NW. The data that is going to come out of this event is going to be so valuable for our learning and confirming/denying theories that exist in epidemiology at present. From a coldly interested viewpoint the whole thing is fascinating to observe. Yeah of course. I am firmly of the belief that I am much more likely to get it (if at all) on the commute on the tube rather than my office, but it is very close to home! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
squirrelarmy Posted March 4, 2020 Report Share Posted March 4, 2020 Just in the pharmacy picking up my prescription and a woman has just come in asking for hand sanitiser. We’ll call her Karen to help you picture her. The pharmacy don’t have any in and the fuss she was kicking up was unbelievable. Had a joke with the girl behind the counter after and she agreed with me that everything is being blown out of proportion and most hand gels won’t even do anything to help anyway. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kalopsia Posted March 4, 2020 Report Share Posted March 4, 2020 1 minute ago, squirrelarmy said: Just in the pharmacy picking up my prescription and a woman has just come in asking for hand sanitiser. We’ll call her Karen to help you picture her. The pharmacy don’t have any in and the fuss she was kicking up was unbelievable. Had a joke with the girl behind the counter after and she agreed with me that everything is being blown out of proportion and most hand gels won’t even do anything to help anyway. I used to work with a Karen and this is exactly the type of thing she'd do😂 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hodgey123 Posted March 4, 2020 Report Share Posted March 4, 2020 1 hour ago, dotdash79 said: Our work have banned international travel for work, and have asked that people don’t travel between offices. we’ve all been told that we need to take our laptops home every night. Fellow Deloitte worker it would seem! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spindles Posted March 4, 2020 Report Share Posted March 4, 2020 Did she have the "I want to speak to the manager" haircut? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
squirrelarmy Posted March 4, 2020 Report Share Posted March 4, 2020 2 minutes ago, Spindles said: Did she have the "I want to speak to the manager" haircut? She did indeed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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