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  1. 1. Who did you vote for?

    • Brexit Party
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    • Conservatives
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    • Green Party
      23
    • Labour
      356
    • Liberal Democrats
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    • SNP
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Ok but people were sick of Blair and Brown at that time. Credit crunch, growing concern over the national debt, iraq, bank bailouts etc. 

Its illogical to assume Labour failed in 2010 due to be centrists. 

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I blame His Dark Materials...

They have been banging on about the Frozen North for weeks now.  Self fulfilling prophecy.

Thanks Philip Pullman. Thanks a lot!

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It is quite interesting to see how opposition supporters are treated in this forum.

On a similar vein,  my son is taking part in a social experiment.

He has to wear a Tory rosette on his shirt for 2 weeks to see how people react.

So far he has been spat at, punched and verbally abused.

It will be interesting to see what happens when he leaves the house.

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52 minutes ago, mattiloy said:

Theres a fall song for every occasion.

 

"The north has rose today, and you can stuff your aid."

Could well be a reaction to labour's attitude and complacency, interesting that only matt42 on here gets why labour failed so badly.

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11 minutes ago, uscore said:

It is quite interesting to see how opposition supporters are treated in this forum.

On a similar vein,  my son is taking part in a social experiment.

He has to wear a Tory rosette on his shirt for 2 weeks to see how people react.

So far he has been spat at, punched and verbally abused.

It will be interesting to see what happens when he leaves the house.

Upvote for the comedy not any of the other things :) 

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23 minutes ago, uscore said:

It is quite interesting to see how opposition supporters are treated in this forum.

On a similar vein,  my son is taking part in a social experiment.

He has to wear a Tory rosette on his shirt for 2 weeks to see how people react.

So far he has been spat at, punched and verbally abused.

It will be interesting to see what happens when he leaves the house.

Who would you say opposition supporters are? genuinely interested in your view 


I’ve not seen it get particularly heated but I think people on here are generally nicer than some forums probably as they’re festival goers who are a pleasant bunch in the main

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To all you who thought it all-right to vote Tory, in former steel towns and coal towns.... I'm from one of those places and we still managed to vote Labour.

Corbyn was a howler, but you don't switch to Tory, do you?

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13 hours ago, mattiloy said:

Centrism lost the argument in 2010.

and yet heir-to-Blair Cameron won that election. I'd say centrism won the argument in 2010, not lost it.

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I'm not sure it's right to be calling the guy who took us out the EU a centrist to be honest. It being the most radical nationalist thing our government has done of late.

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24 minutes ago, DeanoL said:

I'm not sure it's right to be calling the guy who took us out the EU a centrist to be honest. It being the most radical nationalist thing our government has done of late.

if he'd been hoping to take us out of the EU I'd agree with you; his side losing doesn't make him part of the other side.

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27 minutes ago, DeanoL said:

I'm not sure it's right to be calling the guy who took us out the EU a centrist to be honest. It being the most radical nationalist thing our government has done of late.

He didn't expect the result we got though, did he? 

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1 minute ago, DeanoL said:

No but he offered the referendum. He opened the door. He might not have wanted it himself but he still did it.

Same as Labour has to deal with it's internal politics, so does the leader of the tory party. It doesn't necessarily look sensible to people on the outside, and it also doesn't mean it'd be the leader's choice in a perfect world either.

And the libdems and Labour had both put out manifestos within the previous decade that also included an EU referendum, and the Greens supported a ref too - so i don't think you can claim wanting a ref to be owned by either the left or the right.

And he opened a battle he thought he was going to win - a battle that just about everyone thought he was going to win. It looks far more reckless in hindsight than it did at the time.

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15 minutes ago, Simsy said:

Not sure if anyone's mentioned this yet https://www.nme.com/news/music/could-jarvis-cockers-running-the-world-be-this-years-christmas-number-1-2587752. I agree with the sentiment (although I don't agree that an important part of the female anatomy should be the worst insult in the English language).

I've always thought boob to be a great insult

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People need to give Corbyn a break - turns out there was a very good reason for the defeat out of his control 

 

also, Why doesn’t he just use his powers to get a second ref too?!

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6 minutes ago, Homer said:

People need to give Corbyn a break - turns out there was a very good reason for the defeat out of his control 

 

also, Why doesn’t he just use his powers to get a second ref too?!

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ah so its Israeli interference rather than Russian??? (in conjunction with the saucer people, under the supervision of the reverse vampires)

Image result for We’re through the looking glass, here, people

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One thing I think would benefit us all in social media land, is to stop finding the very worst tweets or posts from the "opposition" and suggesting they are representative of that particular group. It doesn't matter whether that group is the Tories, Corbynistas, Blairites, or even a rival football team.

That someone on the opposite side to you is an idiot, or is abusive, doesn't necessarily make your argument more correct.  There are idiots everywhere.

People from all flavours of the political spectrum do this. They show all the replies to something they say, and go "look at what this group of people are like".  It's a tactic used by so many popular people on twitter, from Owen Jones, to Rachel Riley, to Katie Hopkins. (And yes, aren't you clever if you don't like any of the people in my example before you @ me, there are plenty of others).

If you only look for the very worst in the opposition, you'll easily find it on social media, regardless of what angle you are looking from. And you''ll only trap yourself further in your bubble.

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Had a little google but wondering if someone here can simplify it. I remember the referendum result at Glastonbury and being gutted by it but I honestly can’t remember a thing about how it came became a thing in the first place. I know Cameron is the one that called the referendum but I don’t remember why? Was there massive pressure due to immigration or something? It’s really odd. I can remember everything about the campaigns, the result and everything since but can’t for the life of me remember how/why it came about?

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15 minutes ago, DareToDibble said:

Had a little google but wondering if someone here can simplify it. I remember the referendum result at Glastonbury and being gutted by it but I honestly can’t remember a thing about how it came became a thing in the first place. I know Cameron is the one that called the referendum but I don’t remember why? Was there massive pressure due to immigration or something? It’s really odd. I can remember everything about the campaigns, the result and everything since but can’t for the life of me remember how/why it came about?

id love to forget the date of the vote ... unfortunately it happened at Glastonbury ..... and on my 40th birthday .... about the worst present I could ever have had 

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16 minutes ago, crazyfool1 said:

id love to forget the date of the vote ... unfortunately it happened at Glastonbury ..... and on my 40th birthday .... about the worst present I could ever have had 

It was a particularly demanding festival, Brexit vote and the mud, still had a magic time but there were pockets of sadness, disappointment and fuckedoffness, a similar feeling to last Friday 

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8 minutes ago, oneeye said:

It was a particularly demanding festival, Brexit vote and the mud, still had a magic time but there were pockets of sadness, disappointment and fuckedoffness, a similar feeling to last Friday 

yes ... absolutely ... without likeminded people about for support on the  friday just gone 

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4 hours ago, DareToDibble said:

Had a little google but wondering if someone here can simplify it. I remember the referendum result at Glastonbury and being gutted by it but I honestly can’t remember a thing about how it came became a thing in the first place. I know Cameron is the one that called the referendum but I don’t remember why? Was there massive pressure due to immigration or something? It’s really odd. I can remember everything about the campaigns, the result and everything since but can’t for the life of me remember how/why it came about?

Pressure from Farage and the right of his party. He called the ref to head them all off thinking he would win

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9 minutes ago, Homer said:

Pressure from Farage and the right of his party. He called the ref to head them all off thinking he would win

The stupid c**t.

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