efests Exit Poll

[oneeye]

The opening gambit to this video sums it all up;...

Fuck ‘em

[Yoghurt on a Stick]

56 minutes ago, oneeye said:

The opening gambit to this video sums it all up;...

Fuck ‘em

Thank you oneeye. I have, for hours, been in a very despondent mood. Your post has lifted my spirits enormously. 

Fall down seven times, get up eight.

It's going to be hard man, but it's got to be done.

[ShakeyCrash]

1 hour ago, squirrelarmy said:

Is going more central a bad thing? 
Clearly from tonight’s results the people of this country don’t want a left leaning socialist government. The only chance of beating the Tories is by appealing to the majority of the country. You can’t change people’s views especially when you don’t have the ability to control the media so the only alternative is a more moderate stance which people can agree with.  
 

To paraphrase Labours campaign tagline. You need the support of the many and not the few. 

In answer to your question, for me yes it is a bad thing. I totally understand your point; in order to oust the conservatives you need to be more moderate and media savvy but by moving to the centre it sacrifices the principles i believe in. For the last 2 elections i have voted for someone, rather than voted against someone. In 2017 I was elated as I felt i was not alone, and today i feel sadness that (Outside off lovely efests) actually maybe i am.

However i bounce back and cling onto a few things. 1) This result is severely skewed by Brexit and hopefully when it becomes more about other policies we will see more people supporting my views and 2) my constituency (Cardiff North) voted for labour and the popularity of the conservatives actually decreased.

[Ayrshire Chris]

1 hour ago, oneeye said:

The opening gambit to this video sums it all up;...

Fuck ‘em

I remember that so well. Muddy underfoot, James late on due to ground conditions at the front of the stage and everyone stunned as the referendum result sunk in. Michael Eavis arrived in his Land Rover. It was the best place in the whole of the country to be at that moment. Those two words, fuck em, summed up how we all felt.  Its how we feel this morning. 

[philipsteak]

7 hours ago, CaledonianGonzo said:

*points at mug and waves jar of nescafe*

Nescafe? Oh. I mean it's very kind of you and everything...

[DareToDibble]

37 minutes ago, ShakeyCrash said:

In answer to your question, for me yes it is a bad thing. I totally understand your point; in order to oust the conservatives you need to be more moderate and media savvy but by moving to the centre it sacrifices the principles i believe in. For the last 2 elections i have voted for someone, rather than voted against someone. In 2017 I was elated as I felt i was not alone, and today i feel sadness that (Outside off lovely efests) actually maybe i am.

However i bounce back and cling onto a few things. 1) This result is severely skewed by Brexit and hopefully when it becomes more about other policies we will see more people supporting my views and 2) my constituency (Cardiff North) voted for labour and the popularity of the conservatives actually decreased.

I’m the same constituency and I was slightly concerned about this election as I’ve seen a fair few Conservative signs. Thank god we had the sense to re-elect Labour. 

The voting system will never change and unfortunately that means we will essentially be dictated to by the South East of England.

[Jose Águila]

Jose Águila officially supports bojo for prime minister. Jose loves seeing all the salt on twitter as well, its the small things like this that makes Jose feel really good.

Edited December 13, 2019 by Jose Águila

[JSmurphy]

 

[Barry Trotter]

11 minutes ago, Jose Águila said:

Jose Águila officially supports bojo for prime minister. Jose loves seeing all the salt on twitter as well, its the small things like this that makes Jose feel really good.

Barry approves of Jose

[festhead]

Thank god for that. We can now get on and get Brexit done. 

Hopefully labour take a good look at themselves and cleanse the party out. The country needs a strong opposition now more than ever. 

Labour in the current guise are totally un-electable  for the majority

To the future!!!

[philipsteak]

6 hours ago, H.M.V said:

Good to know actual local results in and an increase for Lib Dems. Go on the north. 

The rest of Cumbria has turned blue though. With pretty big numbers

[Jose Águila]

Just now, Barry Trotter said:

Barry approves of Jose

Jose was wondering if Barry wants to come round for drinks and maybe something more tonight to celebrate Boris. Jose is trying to make the most of positive reputation whilst its still a thing

[C14S]

Don't support the Tories in any way, but gotta admit I'm relieved that Corbin isn't in charge of the country.

[Supernintendo Chalmers]

Barry and Jose might just be the same person...

[Jose Águila]

Just now, Supernintendo Chalmers said:

Barry and Jose might just be the same person...

When you can't believe that conservatives have more than two supporters

[C14S]

1 minute ago, Supernintendo Chalmers said:

Barry and Jose might just be the same person...

Just because two people have the same opinion? I get that people are upset that the Tories won but come on

[gmb1992]

2 hours ago, squirrelarmy said:

Is going more central a bad thing? 
Clearly from tonight’s results the people of this country don’t want a left leaning socialist government. The only chance of beating the Tories is by appealing to the majority of the country. You can’t change people’s views especially when you don’t have the ability to control the media so the only alternative is a more moderate stance which people can agree with.  
 

To paraphrase Labours campaign tagline. You need the support of the many and not the few. 

I totally agree with this, at the moment for me personally the left are too left and the right seem too far right. 

Hopefully this election will give all the parties some time for reflection to think about what the people of the UK want. 

[Barry Trotter]

The results are in. Its done. Clearly people underestimated how many people wanted brexit done. Even remainers wanted out after the last 3 years of torture. Now let's just get it done and move on.

Unfortunately the younger labour voters don't seem to be able to respect a democratic vote (or at least a lot of them). Rather than look to the set up of Labour and realise Corbyn should not be leader. Too much baggage people don't forgive or forget. Double standards for them. Democracy is great until it goes against you in their eyes. Disrespecting other people's choices. And all over social media such passive aggressive messages before the vote........'Get out and vote guys, exercise your right, all votes count.....but only if its for who i want to win, if not you are wrong'. Bore off. Everyone has a right to choose who they want. I didn't like the EU referendum results. But what shall we do, do a re vote until i get the answer i prefer. Sod democracy eh. 

Thankfully, wiser heads accept whats happened. And will demand better leadership for next election. 

But look on the bright side upset younger voters....at least the pounds strengthened for when you go travelling, you can get a few extra pairs of elephant trousers now. 

 

All the best. 

Lets move on.

Edited December 13, 2019 by Barry Trotter

[Zoo Music Girl]

Going to be a rude awakening for people who thought they'd voted to get Brexit over and done with quickly, and out of the news. This is just the start of a very long process. We will probably still be negotiating it come next election.

[Jose Águila]

3 minutes ago, Zoo Music Girl said:

Going to be a rude awakening for people who thought they'd voted to get Brexit over and done with quickly, and out of the news. This is just the start of a very long process. We will probably still be negotiating it come next election.

I think labour would have dragged their feet more with Brexit given Corbyn's undecided-ness. Tories winning over constituencies like Stoke which are pro-Brexit also supports this

[festhead]

4 minutes ago, Barry Trotter said:

The results are in. Its done. Clearly people underestimated how many people wanted brexit done. Even remainers wanted out after the last 3 years of torture. Now let's just get it done and move on.

Unfortunately the younger labour voters don't seem to be able to respect a democratic vote (or at least a lot of them). Rather than look to the set up of Labour and realise Corbyn should not be leader. Too much baggage people don't forgive or forget. Double standards for them. Democracy is great until it goes against you in their eyes. Disrespecting other people's choices. And all over social media such passive aggressive messages before the vote........'Get out and vote guys, exercise your right, all votes count.....but only if its for who i want to win, if not you are wrong'. Bore off. Everyone has a right to choose who they want. I didn't like the EU referendum results. But what shall we do, do a re vote until i get the answer i prefer. Sod democracy eh. 

Thankfully, wiser heads accept whats happened. And will demand better leadership for next election. 

But look on the bright side upset younger voters....at least the pounds strengthened for when you go travelling, you can get a few extra pairs of elephant trousers now. 

 

All the best. 

Lets move on.

Can't really disagree with this in my view.

Labour decided to appeal to the minorities with policies that most of the majority can see straight through (as garbage to sway votes, not achievable, reckless and potentially economically paralysing for the country). At the same time as alienating the majority by fence sitting on the biggest pain point in the country.. Brexit. We can see how that strategy played out as its lost them long term strongholds and broke the so called 'red wall' in the north.

it was completely arrogant and clearly fatal of them to disregard how many of their own voters, voted out in the referendum. therefore forcing them in to other parties. 

 

we live in a democracy, and that means respecting a vote and neither Labour or Lid Dems were willing to do that - That cost them, hard.

 

[Hugh Jass]

Been saying all along that Corbyn was never the right man for the job. He needs to fuck off immediately, no “period of reflection” or any of that shite. He has been up against the worst Tory government in living memory, a shower of utterly contemptible c**ts and has somehow delivered Labour’s worst result in close to a century. It’s fucking criminal.

The cult of Corbyn has well and truly failed. 

[Barry Trotter]

3 minutes ago, Hugh Jass said:

Been saying all along that Corbyn was never the right man for the job. He needs to fuck off immediately, no “period of reflection” or any of that shite. He has been up against the worst Tory government in living memory, a shower of utterly contemptible c**ts and has somehow delivered Labour’s worst result in close to a century. It’s fucking criminal.

The cult of Corbyn has well and truly failed. 

The fact hes saying he wont step down immediately is just laughable. So stubborn. Just step down now. 

[CaledonianGonzo]

1 hour ago, philipsteak said:

Nescafe? Oh. I mean it's very kind of you and everything...

Think we may have to buy in bulk.

[eastynh]

6 hours ago, FuzzyDunlop said:

Bollocks. I tried.

I am gob smacked at that. Did your area vote to leave? My sister has just moved to Heywood and I havd been contemplating moving up there. Don't think I will bother.

Thankfully Manchester came through again. Total Labour landslide yet again.