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Kendrick Lamar - Would you be there?  

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  1. 1. Now listed as a SR - Will you be watching if he's headlining?

    • Yes - Definitely, regardless of who else is on the other stages.
      151
    • More than likely - Depending on strength of the clashes on other stages.
      141
    • Unlikely - Know a couple of songs but there would probably be something else on you'd watch instead.
      117
    • No - Not a fan so will be elsewhere
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I hope the opening of his set has the refrain “I hope you find some peace of mind” or the “we may not know which way to go” 

I love that vocal that repeats throughout the album.

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Maybe a bit early in the day but anyone willing to take a stab at that set list now we have the new record? Assuming he does not go album by album like Day N Vegas and plays as long, here is my take.

Crown - (chorus/outro) - (tape)

Mr. Morale

ELEMENT

Wesley's Theory/For Fee

King Kunta

Swimming Pools (Drank)

A.D.H.D

Backseat Freestyle

Savior/N95/family ties - (w/ Keem)

LOYALTY

Money Trees

Die Hard

Father Time - (/w Sampha)

i

LOVE

Mirror

m.A.A.d city

Encore 1

BLOOD - (tape)

DNA

HUMBLE

Encore 2

Count Me Out

Alright

Bitch Don't Kill My Vibe

 

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So much going on with this record. First listen and for me it's left a better first impression than DAMN. The Auntie Dorries three track run at the end is a masterpiece as everyone is saying. Might click on further listens but it did feel as though it sagged in the middle a bit, but might just be overwhelmed with everything going on here.

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i shouldnt really care what if the casual music fan will enjoy these songs live but at glastonbury i kinda feel some of these songs may have that "yeezus / my beautiful dark twisted fantasy" moment. where fans are losing their minds they are seeing these songs live while the majority are looking at each other shrugging their shoulders.

 

should i care? fuck knows,

 

you cant please everybody.

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Just now, Slugy said:

Maybe a bit early in the day but anyone willing to take a stab at that set list now we have the new record? Assuming he does not go album by album like Day N Vegas and plays as long, here is my take.

Crown - (chorus/outro) - (tape)

Mr. Morale

ELEMENT

Wesley's Theory/For Fee

King Kunta

Swimming Pools (Drank)

A.D.H.D

Backseat Freestyle

Savior/N95/family ties - (w/ Keem)

LOYALTY

Money Trees

Die Hard

Father Time - (/w Sampha)

i

LOVE

Mirror

m.A.A.d city

Encore 1

BLOOD - (tape)

DNA

HUMBLE

Encore 2

Count Me Out

Alright

Bitch Don't Kill My Vibe

 

That’ll do.

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I'm loving the album, although it's very much still marinating so it's too early for me to rank it against his others. Both TPAB and Damn didn't hit me fully on first listen and they are among my favourite albums now. Loved GKMC from my first listen but still today I still find things I didn't acknowledge or understand on the album (thank you Dissect et al).

The production on MM&TBS is exceptional and hugely creative at times, and there are layers upon layers of substance in the lyrics - which I suppose is what we've come to expect from Kendrick these days. It hasn't been out long enough for Genius / YouTube to help me out with some of them, and I'm sure many of the sub-themes and lyrical somersaults are likely going over my head at this early point - but I look forward to delving further.

There's definitely some correlation towards the difficult subjects and experiences he reveals about himself on the album and the controversial inclusion of Kodak throughout, but I need a few more listens to draw a proper conclusion on that.

I found the tap dancing motif throughout really sinister but so relevant.

Auntie Diaries is very powerful. Using that slur was incredibly bold, and personally I do think the shock and discomfort of hearing it (repeatedly) hugely helps get the point across which he sums up in the final bars. For obvious reasons though, it's not up to me to decide whether it's 'right' for him to use it in art form.

Favourite songs for me on the first few listens are United In Grief, Father Time, Count Me Out, Savior, Mr Morale and Mother I Sober, but enjoying all of them to some extent. I didn't really know what to expect from him with this one, but it's fair to say there aren't any other major hip hop artists making projects of this much depth and complexity at the moment.

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7 minutes ago, Slugy said:

Maybe a bit early in the day but anyone willing to take a stab at that set list now we have the new record? Assuming he does not go album by album like Day N Vegas and plays as long, here is my take.

Crown - (chorus/outro) - (tape)

Mr. Morale

ELEMENT

Wesley's Theory/For Fee

King Kunta

Swimming Pools (Drank)

A.D.H.D

Backseat Freestyle

Savior/N95/family ties - (w/ Keem)

LOYALTY

Money Trees

Die Hard

Father Time - (/w Sampha)

i

LOVE

Mirror

m.A.A.d city

Encore 1

BLOOD - (tape)

DNA

HUMBLE

Encore 2

Count Me Out

Alright

Bitch Don't Kill My Vibe

 

needs more Auntie Diaries 

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4 minutes ago, the wonderwhy said:

needs more Auntie Diaries 

For me yes but I just can't see him doing it or Mother I Sober. I did try and lean more towards what we would call a greatest hits set.

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My first listen to most hip hop albums only pays a passing interest in the lyrics. Initially, I’m more interested in the vibe, the beats, the rhythmic flow of the thing. That’s why this album didn’t land amazingly on first listen. I could tell it was good but I guess I was hoping for something with more obvious bangers. 

A second listen with the lyrics to follow along with cements this album as fucking brilliant. I really don’t think it’s enough to listen to Kendrick once and have a qualified opinion. This man is a true artist. His music is layered, sometimes not to be taken at face value, and rewards repeat listens. 

I’m glad I’m not the only one reminded of Kim when listening to We Cry Together. It’s not a pleasant listen, whether it reflects domestic difficulties or not. But it’s not as crass as Kim and does have artistic purpose. It’s just not a song I’ll come back to. 

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Was going to make a list of which tracks I thought we are most likely to see performed from the new album, but then decided to make a list of the full tracklist with the odds instead. Feel free to give your own takes if you want.


1. United in Grief (85%)
2. N95 (100%)
3. Worldwide Steppers (50%)
4. Die Hard (70%)
5. Father Time (80%)
6. Rich (Interlude) (40%)
7. Rich Spirit (85%)
8. We Cry Together (1%)
9. Purple Hearts (50%)
10. Count Me Out (75%)
11. Crown (40%)
12. Silent Hill (40%)
13. Savior (Interlude) (30%)
14. Savior (70%) (If Keem is there, closer to 90)
15. Auntie Diaries (1%)
16. Mr. Morale (100%)
17. Mother I Sober (20%)
18. Mirror (75%)

 

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@Slugy funnily enough i was going through the setlist when i saw him do DAMN at the men in manchesrer and i was like... what the hell does he drop?! gonna be some big losers . if he is going for a theatrical setlist i think it will be heavy on the new album with the big hitters thrown in.

If hes going to drop the more meaningul slower stuff he will need drop a fair few bangers early which will allow him to get slower and introspective later on.

count me out

HUMBLE

Money trees

N95

Bitch Dont Kill my Vibe

Die Hard  special guest - burna boy

ADHD / ronald regan era/ hii power / fuck your ehtnicity mash up

 

LOYALTY

DNA

Maad city

Cartoons and cereal

Swimming Pools

ELEMENT

XXX

 

United in Grief

aunties diaries - acapella / spoken word with visuals , brings out Auntie Demtrius. everybody is in tears.

Mother I sober w/ Beth Gibbons of portishead

Father Time w/ sampha 

mr morale


 

Backsetat freestyle (how dare i miss this first time)

Fucking Problems Ft Asap Rocky

King Kunta
Alright

All the stars

Still Dre (ft dr dre and snoop dog )

 

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14 minutes ago, TiZuff said:

@Slugy funnily enough i was going through the setlist when i saw him do DAMN at the men in manchesrer and i was like... what the hell does he drop?! gonna be some big losers . if he is going for a theatrical setlist i think it will be heavy on the new album with the big hitters thrown in.

If hes going to drop the more meaningul slower stuff he will need drop a fair few bangers early which will allow him to get slower and introspective later on.

count me out

HUMBLE

Money trees

N95

Bitch Dont Kill my Vibe

Die Hard  special guest - burna boy

ADHD / ronald regan era/ hii power / fuck your ehtnicity mash up

 

LOYALTY

DNA

Maad city

Cartoons and cereal

Swimming Pools

ELEMENT

XXX

 

United in Grief

aunties diaries - acapella / spoken word with visuals , brings out Auntie Demtrius. everybody is in tears.

Mother I sober w/ Beth Gibbons of portishead

Father Time w/ sampha 

mr morale


 

Backsetat freestyle (how dare i miss this first time)

Fucking Problems Ft Asap Rocky

King Kunta
Alright

All the stars

Still Dre (ft dr dre )

 

Was going to go for something like this but really hard to predict. I do think some of the songs do stand a album statement pieces and need to be listened to in context, would seriously throw the casual listener out of wack.

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His set list when I saw him at The O2 on the DAMN tour - 

  1. DNA.
  2. ELEMENT.
  3. King Kunta
  4. untitled 07 | 2014 - 2016
  5. goosebumps (Travis Scott cover)
  6. Collard Greens (ScHoolboy Q cover)
  7. Swimming Pools (Drank)
  8. Backseat Freestyle
  9. LOYALTY.
  10. FEEL. (Intro played with dance performance on stage)
  11. LUST.
  12. Money Trees
  13. XXX.
  14. m.A.A.d city
  15. PRIDE.
  16. LOVE.
  17. Bitch, Don't Kill My Vibe
  18. Alright
  19. HUMBLE. (with crowd a cappella and restart

    Encore:
  20. GOD.

How he fits this new album in, only he knows

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I actually took today off, partly to listen to this album.

Just gave it the whip test and Count me Out really leaping out at me right now. Loving Rich Spirit too.

Definitely found this the most challenging "first listen" of a Kendrick album, in lots of ways: few obvious bangers, choruses / hooks, some abrasive sounds, mental lyrical density and some difficult subject matter, but holy shiiiiit it's good.

Not sure how well any of this will translate live, and don't think there's a banger here that'll convert anyone on the fence. I'm just excited to see this generational artist at the best place in the world.

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i think its close between TPAB and This as to whats the tougher first listen. Personally i feel TPAB was harder first time around but horses for courses or whatever the saying is.

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7 hours ago, jannybruck said:

I really hate that he's used the F word on this, even if it's quoting someone else, and multiple uses of 'bitch' as derogatory term. He's better than that, it's jarring and it totally takes me out of it.

His use of the F word is artistically justified in my opinion, but I agree with you about “bitch”. It appears far too often on this album and often in a gendered way. It’s 2022 - that shit is indefensible.

It’s odd to hear someone rap positively about trans people and be considered enough to rap about the emptiness of society, then casually use that word. He can’t even use the ‘cultural’ defence given what he had to say about that in The Heart #5.

It’s not enough to stop me enjoying the album but it stops it being as good as it could have been. 

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