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The Other and "Kind of Pyramid Level" Headliners


Hugh Jass
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18 minutes ago, Hugh Jass said:

I know, came back after an hour or so of doing actual work to see lots of replies.... Then I started reading them.

So £50 pound notes, scrunch or fold? ?

Godammit, try to diffuse the atmosphere with chat the wrong thread. As you were. 

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1 hour ago, iforaneye said:

Since it's all about diversity now, I think Billie Eilish should not be counted in the female category since all her stuff was written and produced by her big brother in his bedroom.

Should Wolf Alice be counted as female then? I mean, their main songwriter, singer, guitar player, person with the best stage presence and general centrepiece of the band is female... but the other guys have dicks....

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1 minute ago, wro_lap said:

Should Wolf Alice be counted as female then? I mean, their main songwriter, singer, guitar player, person with the best stage presence and general centrepiece of the band is female... but the other guys have dicks....

I think for the purposes of trying to ensure parity as far as possible, they actually would be.

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2 minutes ago, wro_lap said:

Should Wolf Alice be counted as female then? I mean, their main songwriter, singer, guitar player, person with the best stage presence and general centrepiece of the band is female... but the other guys have dicks....

That's the point. Imagine a festival was Paramore, Chvrches, Neon Trees, Wolf Alice.

Would they when have to book some male acts to counteract these "female acts" even though these female acts are mostly male. 

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1 minute ago, iforaneye said:

That's the point. Imagine a festival was Paramore, Chvrches, Neon Trees, Wolf Alice.

Would they when have to book some male acts to counteract these "female acts" even though these female acts are mostly male. 

If you could put together a whole festival's worth of lineup then it would be a worthwhile discussion.  It's not the reality of the current situation in any way though.

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4 minutes ago, iforaneye said:

That's the point. Imagine a festival was Paramore, Chvrches, Neon Trees, Wolf Alice.

Would they when have to book some male acts to counteract these "female acts" even though these female acts are mostly male. 

Don’t get me wrong - I get what you’re trying to say, but I think we need to walk before we can run. Getting “female” bands on then Glastonbury bill also acts as an incentive for more to get in the studio and record music so boomers can continue to make movements until we eventually have a pretty even mix of all-male bands, all-female bands, male fronted bands with women in them, female fronted bands with men in them, etc. Emily Eavis herself (and the Reading and Leeds booker in an interview somewhere, I recall) has admitted this won’t happen overnight, but even if it requires a tiny bit of lenience over who we refer to as “female” (nb. Billie Eilish, a female solo artist who happens to co-write with her brother who also plays bass for her, is not a lenient selection of a female artist), then it’s definitely still a step forward in the current climate. Just because a band has male members doesn’t detract from anything.

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3 minutes ago, wro_lap said:

Don’t get me wrong - I get what you’re trying to say, but I think we need to walk before we can run. Getting “female” bands on then Glastonbury bill also acts as an incentive for more to get in the studio and record music so boomers can continue to make movements until we eventually have a pretty even mix of all-male bands, all-female bands, male fronted bands with women in them, female fronted bands with men in them, etc. Emily Eavis herself (and the Reading and Leeds booker in an interview somewhere, I recall) has admitted this won’t happen overnight, but even if it requires a tiny bit of lenience over who we refer to as “female” (nb. Billie Eilish, a female solo artist who happens to co-write with her brother who also plays bass for her, is not a lenient selection of a female artist), then it’s definitely still a step forward in the current climate. Just because a band has male members doesn’t detract from anything.

Give that beaut an upvote for me... 

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5 hours ago, TiZuff said:

I felt the sound was much improved this year . Maybe imagining it but it’s what I felt from the first act I saw on there and I saw all 3 headliners there too. 

I know this is far from comparing like with like, but compared to the hi-fi audio treat of Jon Hopkins, I was pretty unimpressed with the sound on Other for the Chemicals.

It's odd how Other is the only major stage not running Martin Audio. Pyramid, W Holts and John Peel are all running various configurations of the MLA and even The Park has Martin Audio, albeit an older model. I wonder if there's something about the site that makes them unsuitable? I'd love to hear them try MLA out there too 

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