Billy Corgan's Ego Posted November 5, 2019 Report Share Posted November 5, 2019 17 minutes ago, eFestivals said: I'm thinking it'll be around a sell-out, but I also reckon it'd be a brave promoter who did a bigger show for them because I reckon it'd be a gamble. Which is why I said APE is about right. I reckon they could sell out a stadium on their own as a UK exclusive. 40,000 tickets would go within 30 mins, imo. I hope I am wrong though as missing out would be unthinkable. I hope they dont play Glastonbury as I would prefer to see them on their own card. Would be insane!! (And I get another weekend away.....) 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eFestivals Posted November 5, 2019 Report Share Posted November 5, 2019 6 minutes ago, Tommy101 said: If RATM played APE I could see them selling out at £70 a ticket without anyone one the undercard if it is a UK exclusive (or even not extensive in Europe) When they played Reading, day tickets where changing hands for £600 and yet in 2000(?) the crowd for them wasn't the biggest. They're a hard act to judge because they were very niche until the anti-X-Factor thing, and it's hard to know how much of that went beyond novelty value. I can't see them causing much of a stir for Reading Festival nowadays. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eFestivals Posted November 5, 2019 Report Share Posted November 5, 2019 3 minutes ago, Billy Corgan's Ego said: I reckon they could sell out a stadium on their own as a UK exclusive. 40,000 tickets would go within 30 mins, imo. I hope I am wrong though as missing out would be unthinkable. I hope they dont play Glastonbury as I would prefer to see them on their own card. Would be insane!! (And I get another weekend away.....) Yep, one show with 40,000 tickets not much of a problem, but if you doubled that up and excluded people from going to both shows, would that 2nd show sell? I'm not convinced it would. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tommy101 Posted November 5, 2019 Report Share Posted November 5, 2019 3 minutes ago, eFestivals said: and yet in 2000(?) the crowd for them wasn't the biggest. They're a hard act to judge because they were very niche until the anti-X-Factor thing, and it's hard to know how much of that went beyond novelty value. I can't see them causing much of a stir for Reading Festival nowadays. Maybe it was just that the niche was pretty much the Reading goers of 2008 (I appreciate that is not the same as Reading goers now). That was the year before the X Factor Christmas number one thing. I'd have thought the niche is big enough, and still exists even if it is just most of the same people who were in it back then (or the first time around for that matter). It won't be as big as 10 years ago but it'll still be substantial, especially with the shit show that is global politics at the moment. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
maelzoid Posted November 5, 2019 Report Share Posted November 5, 2019 (edited) 12 minutes ago, eFestivals said: and yet in 2000(?) the crowd for them wasn't the biggest. They're a hard act to judge because they were very niche until the anti-X-Factor thing, and it's hard to know how much of that went beyond novelty value. I can't see them causing much of a stir for Reading Festival nowadays. And let's not forget the very affordable ticket price in 2010 for Finsbury park... That must have swayed a few people. Edited November 5, 2019 by maelzoid clarity Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nicklord Posted November 5, 2019 Report Share Posted November 5, 2019 (edited) The thing, in my opinion, with RATM is that they have a LOT of young fans. They crossed that line into Metallica/RHCP/GnR/whoever tier where if you start listening to rock you gotta listen to. So their fanbase grew over the '00s and '10s without them really doing anything Edited November 5, 2019 by Nicklord Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AlexOvd Posted November 5, 2019 Report Share Posted November 5, 2019 I have my concerns about RATM playing in Other as headliners. If they play, they will be in the Pyramid and for sure they will pack it. I have some faith about being them the third headliner, if the festival wans I am sure they will play but the issue here is apparently they are in negotiations for the third one (Macca?)... RATM - Taylor - Kendrick all the way! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andre91 Posted November 5, 2019 Report Share Posted November 5, 2019 Other headliner seems just right for them. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
maelzoid Posted November 5, 2019 Report Share Posted November 5, 2019 Download must be spewing though... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mcshed Posted November 5, 2019 Report Share Posted November 5, 2019 1 hour ago, Tommy101 said: Maybe it was just that the niche was pretty much the Reading goers of 2008 (I appreciate that is not the same as Reading goers now). That was the year before the X Factor Christmas number one thing. I don't really remember them being that much of a big deal at T in the Park that year so I think it says something about Reading's appetite for heavier music. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tommy101 Posted November 5, 2019 Report Share Posted November 5, 2019 1 hour ago, mcshed said: I don't really remember them being that much of a big deal at T in the Park that year so I think it says something about Reading's appetite for heavier music. Fair enough - I fully appreciate that I was within the Reading bubble that we're talking about so will have a pretty bias view. This has reminded me about the whole line up, at the time I couldn't have asked for any more Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jump Posted November 5, 2019 Report Share Posted November 5, 2019 15 minutes ago, Tommy101 said: Fair enough - I fully appreciate that I was within the Reading bubble that we're talking about so will have a pretty bias view. This has reminded me about the whole line up, at the time I couldn't have asked for any more Great line up at the time but the Sunday main stage became a bit of a train wreck on the day though. Slipknot and Avenged Sevenfold pulled out, an unknown (at the time) Bring Me The Horizon were added (and then bottled) and the order was messed up as some bands were late, Mindless Self Indulgence end up playing ridiculously high. The Saturday Lock Up stage was superb too. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fatyeti24 Posted November 5, 2019 Report Share Posted November 5, 2019 I'm terrible at estimating the appeal of bands, but going off this thread, Rage are now a much bigger attraction than they were when they were an actual band who made music. Which is mental but not unique, I suppose. I'd go and see them, it's been 25 years since I did, but not for 70 sheets in some park in London. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tommy101 Posted November 5, 2019 Report Share Posted November 5, 2019 17 minutes ago, jump said: Great line up at the time but the Sunday main stage became a bit of a train wreck on the day though. Slipknot and Avenged Sevenfold pulled out, an unknown (at the time) Bring Me The Horizon were added (and then bottled) and the order was messed up as some bands were late, Mindless Self Indulgence end up playing ridiculously high. The Saturday Lock Up stage was superb too. Yeah I remember being disappointed about Slipknot but was never bothered about Avenged. Didn't take a lot to kick off a mass bottling in those days! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jump Posted November 5, 2019 Report Share Posted November 5, 2019 I'm surprise by all the comments about Rage Against The Machine not being big in their day. I was too young for Rage in the 90s to properly comment of their popularity then but they were playing arenas back (I remember being a tween and wanting to go to their Wembley show) and they split up less than a year after their 3rd album came out which was very popular. In between them breaking up and reforming they had their videos playing on MTV2 regularly, being played in rock/metal club nights etc. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Nal Posted November 5, 2019 Report Share Posted November 5, 2019 (edited) 1 hour ago, Tommy101 said: Fair enough - I fully appreciate that I was within the Reading bubble that we're talking about so will have a pretty bias view. This has reminded me about the whole line up, at the time I couldn't have asked for any more Same bookers as this then. Was at it that year. Top end stuff. Rage were great until we had to move when two Dutch blokes started beating the piss out of each other. Edited November 5, 2019 by The Nal Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jump Posted November 5, 2019 Report Share Posted November 5, 2019 3 hours ago, The Nal said: Same bookers as this then. Was at it that year. Top end stuff. Rage were great until we had to move when two Dutch blokes started beating the piss out of each other. Were The Verve subbing Metallica? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mcshed Posted November 5, 2019 Report Share Posted November 5, 2019 4 hours ago, Tommy101 said: Fair enough - I fully appreciate that I was within the Reading bubble that we're talking about so will have a pretty bias view. This has reminded me about the whole line up, at the time I couldn't have asked for any more Think I'd still prefer T's offering. The Chems and The Prodidgy are pretty great 2nd stage headliners. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ogriff Posted November 5, 2019 Report Share Posted November 5, 2019 This, my friends, was the gig to be at. For the launch of the Battle of LA. 1,000 people going absolutely mental. Most viceral gig I've been to, bar none. Finsbury park was like a joyful valedictory lap in comparison. For those that remember the Astoria (they bulldozed it for crossrail I think), you could choose on entry if you wanted to go to the balcony or the pit, there was no system to force you to one or the other. It felt like everyone was downstairs. Couldn't get to the bar or toilet if you wanted to. No space for circle-pits, just a heaving mass. Can't believe it was 20 years ago! 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pinhead Posted November 5, 2019 Report Share Posted November 5, 2019 Thought it was called Astoria 2 by then? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Supernintendo Chalmers Posted November 5, 2019 Report Share Posted November 5, 2019 59 minutes ago, mcshed said: Think I'd still prefer T's offering. The Chems and The Prodidgy are pretty great 2nd stage headliners. Ah, my first TITP. And what a great weekend it was. Nowhere better than a rammed Slam tent, either. That place went off! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ogriff Posted November 5, 2019 Report Share Posted November 5, 2019 22 minutes ago, Pinhead said: Thought it was called Astoria 2 by then? Wasn't that downstairs, where they did the indie disco when G.A.Y was on? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oxygentleman Posted November 5, 2019 Report Share Posted November 5, 2019 (edited) 26 minutes ago, Pinhead said: Thought it was called Astoria 2 by then? I thought there were two seperate astorias on the same street, may have just been different entrances though. Edited November 5, 2019 by oxygentleman Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Billy Corgan's Ego Posted November 5, 2019 Report Share Posted November 5, 2019 17 minutes ago, Supernintendo Chalmers said: Ah, my first TITP. And what a great weekend it was. Nowhere better than a rammed Slam tent, either. That place went off! Best weekend ever! Chems, RATM and Prodigy as headliners. Errol Alkan, Justice, dubfire, Hawtin plus many more in Slam tent. Ah, take me back immediately 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Supernintendo Chalmers Posted November 5, 2019 Report Share Posted November 5, 2019 7 minutes ago, Billy Corgan's Ego said: Best weekend ever! Chems, RATM and Prodigy as headliners. Errol Alkan, Justice, dubfire, Hawtin plus many more in Slam tent. Ah, take me back immediately I drove a 1000 mile found trip for that lineup. Still ranks as one of my best festival weekends ever Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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