Tickets , Tips and Tricks

[clarkete]

37 minutes ago, discgoesmic said:

They will have separate internal IPs but not public ones (which is what SeeTickets have visible). It's possible that your machines could have separate public IPs depending on network configuration (e.g. VPN, DMZ, etc) but it's difficult to know without being an IT guy.

I'm an IT Engineer also, although some of the guys here seem to have more specialist networking knowledge ?

Easy enough to see the address they see by going to a page like this - https://www.whatismyip.com/

 

[MEGATRONICMEATWAGON]

11 minutes ago, nicknoxx said:

For those using Auto refresh on Chrome, there's a plugin called Auto Refresh Plus which can be made to stop when a keyword appears or disappears.  I've set mine to stop when it sees "Buy Tickets"

You might want to set it to something else... according to the official page, the keyword "buy tickets" isn't on the page, unless it would stop despite the word "Glastonbury" being between them... I'm not sure if it would count if it's only "buy tickets", maybe "buy Glastonbury tickets" is better

Edited October 2, 2019 by MEGATRONICMEATWAGON

[clarkete]

Have you used that method previously @MEGATRONICMEATWAGON?

I'm wary of any method to different to my previous years unless it's been successful for someone in previous sales.

 

[TheGoodWillOut]

On 9/30/2019 at 10:27 AM, Zoo Music Girl said:

Had my first T-day dream last night! Nothing too dramatic, just a lot of organising details in Word docs...

I'll be trying from work on Thursday and then at home Sunday. Dreading trying at work as I know there are some other people in my office who will be trying that I don't know directly - and it's always the case I can hear their experiences from across the room, which always adds to the anxiety...

Had a ticket dream myself last night, was in the office sunday morning with about a hundred screens all trying and failing. Meanwhile the local office knob head who boasts that everything he does is better than everyone else managed to get tickets in seconds then kept getting through multiple times and buying for other people even though they didn't want to go.  

 

don't know whats worse, dreaming about tickets or the local office knob head!!

Edited October 2, 2019 by TheGoodWillOut
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[Woolie09]

3 minutes ago, MEGATRONICMEATWAGON said:

You might want to set it to something else... according to the official page, the keyword "buy tickets" isn't on the page, unless it would stop despite the word "Glastonbury" being between them... I'm not sure if it would count if it's only "buy tickets", maybe "buy Glastonbury tickets" is better

I heard that they have used images rather than text in the past to prevent auto refresh software from detecting specific words... I may be wrong but I think I remember something like this being said the year people were using ‘refreshinator’ and the like.

[MEGATRONICMEATWAGON]

Just now, clarkete said:

Have you used that method previously @MEGATRONICMEATWAGON?

I'm wary of any method to different to my previous years unless it's been successful for someone in previous sales.

 

The auto refresh method? I've not tried the extensions either, but if there's an option to stop refreshing when some keywords come up, then "buy tickets" might not be enough if there's a word inbetween them?! I'm really not sure. As per a video I saw on the first page of this topic thread, I'm going to try with single tabs on three different browsers (Edge, Chrome, Firefox) and use an auto refresh on the Chrome one to see if it works. My greatest fear is that it gets through, I miss it, and the page automatically refreshes and kicks me back into the queue ? Previous years I've only ever done manual refreshes... I'm a complete n00b when it comes to all the IPs and stacking tabs or whatever...

[Woolie09]

1 hour ago, DareToDibble said:

This is for sure my biggest fear. I never got lucky enough to even see a payment screen last year but lost out as the payment screen died as @vintagelaureate was trying to secure tickets for me. 
 

This year that would mean not only do I not have tickets but also that I won’t be able to secures any for a 10 minute window should anyone else in my group get through.

Terrifying thought.

I think (from reading this bit on the site and past experience) that in the case of the payment screen freezing your registration would not be blocked for the ten mins. The main thing I think the block applies to is if, say, you were in 2 groups. Group A get through and enter your details. Unknowingly, Group B also get through and also enter your registration number. Your ticket from the Group A sale would be safe if the transaction had cleared but it would then block all of the other registrations in Group B that have not yet been used. This happened to some of my friends a couple of years ago so I don’t think it’s necessarily a ‘new’ rule. The same year that this happened, the payment screen froze for me during 3 separate bookings for our group- when I clicked back I was able to continue the transaction as normal each tine

[a6l6e6x]

17 minutes ago, MEGATRONICMEATWAGON said:

You might want to set it to something else... according to the official page, the keyword "buy tickets" isn't on the page, unless it would stop despite the word "Glastonbury" being between them... I'm not sure if it would count if it's only "buy tickets", maybe "buy Glastonbury tickets" is better

Whats the url for this page?

[discgoesmic]

21 minutes ago, clarkete said:

Easy enough to see the address they see by going to a page like this - https://www.whatismyip.com/

 

Great resource. Also great for checking if you're actually properly connected to a VPN session and your IP location for those... other things privacy allows you to do.

[Honeybane]

So if i get 1 character wrong on the registration accidentally i get locked out for 10 mins?

[Crazyfool01]

1 hour ago, a6l6e6x said:

Is glastonbury just full of IT geniuses these days?

or is it just full of people that having been hanging around efestivals for a while  ?

[clarkete]

35 minutes ago, discgoesmic said:

Great resource. Also great for checking if you're actually properly connected to a VPN session and your IP location for those... other things privacy allows you to do.

You and I are on the same (secret) page  

[netspy]

45 minutes ago, a6l6e6x said:

Whats the url for this page?

https://cdn.glastonburyfestivals.co.uk/wp-content/uploads/2019/09/page-2.png

Not the answer you were waiting for, I know.

[aj6658]

Hi everyone, Devastated last year when a few of our friends (in my group of 6 and other groups) managed to get to the payment screen for it to crash out. Im a massive killers fan so hugely disappointed not to go.

 

Sorry if this has been asked and answered but what's peoples thoughts on internet strength/ speed. I ran basic speed test at home and i get around 28.5-30 MBPS. i was considering going into the office ( I work at a Big 4 company and the internet is pretty good) and using my work laptop on the connection and also use my work mobile and personal one. 

 

Do you reckon that would have any effect and would my work laptop with its VPNs and what not have a detrimental effect?

 

Thanks in advance 

 

[Gilb]

I've written my own script for refreshing the page this year using VBA and Selenium.

Using a Chrome browser, the script opens the holding page and will refresh every x seconds (x being whatever refresh rate I choose) until the URL changes.
Then if it sees 'addRegistration' in the URL it will populate the reg numbers and postcodes into the appropriate fields for each of the 6 in my group.
I've halted the script there as I want to proceed through the rest of the deposit payment manually myself, but there would be no reason why it couldn't complete the whole booking once I have confirmation of the URL's involved for each web page in the process (which I should be able to find out on Thursday).

Bit of an experiment so I'll see how it goes!!

[discgoesmic]

5 minutes ago, aj6658 said:

Hi everyone, Devastated last year when a few of our friends (in my group of 6 and other groups) managed to get to the payment screen for it to crash out. Im a massive killers fan so hugely disappointed not to go.

 

Sorry if this has been asked and answered but what's peoples thoughts on internet strength/ speed. I ran basic speed test at home and i get around 28.5-30 MBPS. i was considering going into the office ( I work at a Big 4 company and the internet is pretty good) and using my work laptop on the connection and also use my work mobile and personal one. 

 

Do you reckon that would have any effect and would my work laptop with its VPNs and what not have a detrimental effect?

 

Thanks in advance 

 

In theory, I wouldn't think it would make any difference. However, anecdotally I had big problems getting other tickets from See years ago on my corporate network, which was because the network was blocking certain aspects of the page. Also, in theory if you're going through a VPN there may be a tiny delay because of how traffic is being routed (it's not a straight forward connection and could hit speedbumps).

I personally would have 2 or more devices on different networks, with one on the VPN. It means if nothing else you'll have a different IP address (as said earlier in this thread) and in theory another chance of securing tickets.

[clarkete]

6 minutes ago, discgoesmic said:

In theory, I wouldn't think it would make any difference. However, anecdotally I had big problems getting other tickets from See years ago on my corporate network, which was because the network was blocking certain aspects of the page. Also, in theory if you're going through a VPN there may be a tiny delay because of how traffic is being routed (it's not a straight forward connection and could hit speedbumps).

I personally would have 2 or more devices on different networks, with one on the VPN. It means if nothing else you'll have a different IP address (as said earlier in this thread) and in theory another chance of securing tickets.

Yes, I used to have a phenomenal connection via work, rarely failed come T day as it has such low latency, but times change and these days I go via a corporate WiFi and proxy, each of which introduce a measurable impact and it's now simply better to use a decent connection from home.

[parsonjack]

7 hours ago, DareToDibble said:

 If you do end up on this page - although not sure how you would even know - you can sort the issue by closing down your browser and starting again?

Once your refresh rate falls below 60/minute you'll be back in the game and, unless you get a booking session, be seeing the real 'busy' page.  But there's no obvious way to know if you've got the real 'busy' page or not....apart from being certain you're not exceeding the limit.

[parsonjack]

6 hours ago, pentura said:

From what I've seen on here I think closing down the browser or doing a hard refresh (Shift & F5) can bring you back. Although I'm not knowledgeable enough in this area to completely confirm. That's what I'll be doing anyway!

Not quite.....simply reducing the F5 rate will get you back in the game.  You should only need to close the browser if your F5's become totally unresponsive or you get the 'white page' scenario to clear the cookie and get a new one.

[vintagelaureate]

3 hours ago, DareToDibble said:

This is for sure my biggest fear. I never got lucky enough to even see a payment screen last year but lost out as the payment screen died as @vintagelaureate was trying to secure tickets for me. 
 

This year that would mean not only do I not have tickets but also that I won’t be able to secures any for a 10 minute window should anyone else in my group get through.

Terrifying thought.

Imagine the knock on effect this year of something similar this year! 

[parsonjack]

6 hours ago, Harry49 said:

Interesting. So how do you know you are on the page of doom, is there a simple method of checking so you can start again?

'Page of doom' is probably too strong for what we're talking about.  It's simply that you will automatically be given a 'busy' page if the system suspects you are an automated tool rather than someone hitting F5 with their index finger.  This *seems* to occur when you exceed an F5 rate of above 60/minute.  Making sure you are below that limit would be the sensible advice to avoid it.

 

[parsonjack]

4 hours ago, Dreamingofsunnydays said:

What about using a 4g router?

Same principle.....connections will just be seen as a different source IP but still monitored for the rate they are sent.

[HalfAnIdiot]

1 hour ago, Honeybane said:

So if i get 1 character wrong on the registration accidentally i get locked out for 10 mins?

No as you would not have entered your reg number, although you may have entered someone else's!

[a6l6e6x]

50 minutes ago, Gilb said:

I've written my own script for refreshing the page this year using VBA and Selenium.

Using a Chrome browser, the script opens the holding page and will refresh every x seconds (x being whatever refresh rate I choose) until the URL changes.
Then if it sees 'addRegistration' in the URL it will populate the reg numbers and postcodes into the appropriate fields for each of the 6 in my group.
I've halted the script there as I want to proceed through the rest of the deposit payment manually myself, but there would be no reason why it couldn't complete the whole booking once I have confirmation of the URL's involved for each web page in the process (which I should be able to find out on Thursday).

Bit of an experiment so I'll see how it goes!!

Wouldn't even know where to start to make this work. If it's successful can I suggest a webex for the efestivals community to set this up!

[parsonjack]

5 minutes ago, HalfAnIdiot said:

No as you would not have entered your reg number, although you may have entered someone else's!

This is the point I made earlier somewhere...I think the whole statement regarding registrations being locked is badly written and very misleading.  IMO it's simply saying that when registrations are entered they are then locked for use in that booking session for 10 minutes to give time for the transaction to be completed.  Its not there as any sort of penalty, its simply to ensure the system is efficient as it can be by avoiding the potential for simultaneous transactions against the same reg number.