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4 minutes ago, Quark said:

Do not try to understand Dental, that's impossible.  Instead, only try to realise the truth.  There is no Dental.  Then you'll see it's not Dental that enjoys the album, it is only yourself.

The first rule of dentalplan is that you do not question dentalplan.

The second rule of dentalplan is that you do not suggest acts for slots that they are clearly unsuited to.

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35 minutes ago, Hugh Jass said:

I dunno, IDLES are the obvious comparison.

I think Joy... sold around 11,000 in its week of sales, and Brutalism didn't get the wider publicity of Dogrel.

I think Ultra Mono will be well above Joy's first week sales when that's out. 

 

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44 minutes ago, Hugh Jass said:

I’d say very similar - both on a well received second album that built on the success of the first, series of Academy gigs booked leading up to an Ally Pally show...

When they take to the stage at GF21 this album will have be out for a similar period that JAAOR was too. 

Yeah but as @vintagelaureate points out, Joy wasn’t as immediately successful as A Hero’s Death. Idles’ academy tour was after Glasto rather than before. Like they would have had a similar slot to Idles 2019 this year and then a big album came out so a lift up the bill next time out.

I think I’d imagine them evening Other rather than evening Park next June. 🤞

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11 minutes ago, dentalplan said:

Yeah but as @vintagelaureate points out, Joy wasn’t as immediately successful as A Hero’s Death. Idles’ academy tour was after Glasto rather than before. Like they would have had a similar slot to Idles 2019 this year and then a big album came out so a lift up the bill next time out.

I think I’d imagine them evening Other rather than evening Park next June. 🤞

Under normal circumstances they’d have played this year then done the Academy tour afterwards. They would also have played before album 2 dropped (however they may well have brought it out sooner had they been playing festivals this summer).

Right now I’d place them on a par with IDLES in terms of size, and you could easily argue that they were too big for that Park slot. The question is whether they’ll get substantially bigger in the next 11 months before the next festival. I’m not sure they will - Dogrel had them playing the JP daytime as well as Leftfield, album 2 has elevated them to evening Park, just as it did Idles. I think they’ll do the academies and the big Ally Pally show but I doubt they’ll get any bigger than that in the next year.

All just an opinion of course...

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21 minutes ago, dentalplan said:

I think I’d imagine them evening Other rather than evening Park next June. 

I could see your point about them outgrowing the Park, but if they’re gonna move anywhere I’d say high John Peel rather than Other. They seem like the type of band who’d want to keep their gigs ‘intimate’ for as long as possible. The idea of them on Other right now/next year doesn’t seem right to me.

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21 minutes ago, Hugh Jass said:

Right now I’d place them on a par with IDLES in terms of size, and you could easily argue that they were too big for that Park slot. The question is whether they’ll get substantially bigger in the next 11 months before the next festival. I’m not sure they will - Dogrel had them playing the JP daytime as well as Leftfield, album 2 has elevated them to evening Park, just as it did Idles. I think they’ll do the academies and the big Ally Pally show but I doubt they’ll get any bigger than that in the next year.

 

I think you're too fixated on it being each artist's second albums. Dogrel came out not long before last year's festival so their slots weren't really indicative, but its success put them into a good Park slot this year - it has done almost as well as Joy has.

They would have played the slot in June and then in July sold out almost an entire academy tour (as Idles also did around the same time last year) and the band has now released an album that had higher first-week sales than any of last year's Other headliners and just 1k short of what Foals' last album sold when it hit no. 1. They're ahead of where Idles were in 2019, so they don't really need to get bigger in the next 11 months as they've already done the work in one month.

37 minutes ago, FloorFiller said:

I could see your point about them outgrowing the Park, but if they’re gonna move anywhere I’d say high John Peel rather than Other. They seem like the type of band who’d want to keep their gigs ‘intimate’ for as long as possible. The idea of them on Other right now/next year doesn’t seem right to me.

Yeah I guess. I just figure they're likely to find more empty space in the middle parts of lineups rather than top two John Peel.

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I've just used the lyrics to A Hero's Death in a lesson I've planned for a year 7 poetry scheme of work (I'm an English teacher, if you hadn't already made that inference).

What does this say about Fontaines, and what does it say about me? Are their lyrics and rhyme scheme simplistic enough for an 11-year-old to comprehend? Am I bloody-minded enough to crowbar something I like into a setting it doesn't really belong? Are both of those things true? I guess I'll find out soon enough.

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3 minutes ago, blutarsky said:

I've just used the lyrics to A Hero's Death in a lesson I've planned for a year 7 poetry scheme of work (I'm an English teacher, if you hadn't already made that inference).

What does this say about Fontaines, and what does it say about me? Are their lyrics and rhyme scheme simplistic enough for an 11-year-old to comprehend? Am I bloody-minded enough to crowbar something I like into a setting it doesn't really belong? Are both of those things true? I guess I'll find out soon enough.

I think fair play.  As an 11/12 year old I know I'd have been far more interested in looking at how this sort of thing works in music instead of reading more John fucking Donne

"Death be not proude..."

OH FUCK OFF JOHN!

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8 hours ago, blutarsky said:

I've just used the lyrics to A Hero's Death in a lesson I've planned for a year 7 poetry scheme of work (I'm an English teacher, if you hadn't already made that inference).

What does this say about Fontaines, and what does it say about me? Are their lyrics and rhyme scheme simplistic enough for an 11-year-old to comprehend? Am I bloody-minded enough to crowbar something I like into a setting it doesn't really belong? Are both of those things true? I guess I'll find out soon enough.

Why not choose one of their songs that isn’t 50% “loif ain’ ahlways empty”?

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