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Glastonbury’s Greatest Headliners BBC2

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2 minutes ago, gooner1990 said:

I said exactly the same when watching it!

crowds up till the early 2000’s getting involved and dancing/pogoing etc

crowds after the early 2000’s - standing still and filming the entire gig on their phone. 

Think this is a pretty lazy generalisation tbh. If you look for what is actually alternative, rock isn't at the cutting edge of much these days, so the old shots of everyone bouncing to Pulp get rarer. It's bedded in the culture and attract a bigger draw of casuals – which is magnified by the Pyramid's suction trap of families. Stormzy and Dizzee Rascal, to name just two in 2017, were fucking explosive, mosh pits and full-field pogoing left right and centre.

And even then, the whole place still exploded when Pulp played in 2011. It's just selective bias.

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2 minutes ago, Homer said:

Long set length due to replacing U2; lots of people who probably hadn't listened to the new album; didn't play all the hits; some of it was a bit 'arty'; some long pauses between songs while they got guests on and off.

And by his own telling, Damon kept deliberate distance to avoid it looking like a forced "Blur 2009 Pt.II" sequel, but that just worsened the detachment.

For what it's worth, I really enjoyed it, but had spent a couple months utterly rinsing Plastic Beach so was behind it.

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2 minutes ago, Ddiamondd said:

And by his own telling, Damon kept deliberate distance to avoid it looking like a forced "Blur 2009 Pt.II" sequel, but that just worsened the detachment.

For what it's worth, I really enjoyed it, but had spent a couple months utterly rinsing Plastic Beach so was behind it.

Agreed - I listened to the album a lot and enjoyed most of it too.

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4 minutes ago, Homer said:

Agreed - I listened to the album a lot and enjoyed most of it too.

Loads of people that missed blur wanted to make themselves feel better so slated the 2010 set. 

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3 hours ago, nikkic said:

Because neither are white male indie rock bands. 

Jay Z opened the door to hip hop artists and mainstream pop stars headlining.

Jay Z didn't open the door to mainstream pop acts....what do we think Coldplay are?

Hip Hop I agree but Ed and Adele headlined off of their own merit.

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1 minute ago, thewayiam said:

Jay Z didn't open the door to mainstream pop acts....what do we think Coldplay are?

Shit

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This was pretty good fun, I know basically nothing about Skunk Anansie so it was a bit of a surprise to see how massive they were at the time.

I know why it will never happen but seeing this and the 2014-17 sets on iPlayer makes me wish there was a Glastonbury archive you could watch over old sets with. 

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Watched it this morning. 95 was my first year and I wish I'd gone the year before and seen the Levellers slot because I loved them at the time (still got a massive soft spot for them, truth be told).

Was great remembering some of those sets. Bowie, REM and Radiohead are some of my top headliner memories.

After that I watched the Julian Temple Glastonbury film so I'm extra excited now.

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I’ve only been going for the last 5 years or so, but that levellers crowd looked absolutely mental.

I can really see why people hark back to the old days, it really was a hardcore crowd. That said the festival needed to change for it to have a future so it’s all for the greater good.

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9 minutes ago, Deaf Nobby Burton said:

I’ve only been going for the last 5 years or so, but that levellers crowd looked absolutely mental.

I can really see why people hark back to the old days, it really was a hardcore crowd. That said the festival needed to change for it to have a future so it’s all for the greater good.

It was exciting then - a slight air of almost tension. You felt like it could all go off at any time.

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6 minutes ago, Homer said:

It was exciting then - a slight air of almost tension. You felt like it could all go off at any time.

It’s a strange situation really. I’ve never really thought of the Levellers as having a crowd like anywhere. But I think it all comes down the ‘Gentrification’ of festivals.

Back then only a specific type of person went to Glastonbury. In the most part the type that would go to a levellers set and go absolutely mental.

Nowadays anyone and everyone goes to festivals and/or Glastonbury, the crowd has been diluted down so it’s just a cross section of society as a whole. It’s sad in a way really, but Glastonbury is still absolutely amazing and probably wouldn’t exist of that hadn’t have happened. I’m just a little sad I didn’t experience it in those days.

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Just now, Deaf Nobby Burton said:

It’s a strange situation really. I’ve never really thought of the Levellers as having a crowd like anywhere. But I think it all comes down the ‘Gentrification’ of festivals.

Back then only a specific type of person went to Glastonbury. In the most part the type that would go to a levellers set and go absolutely mental.

Nowadays anyone and everyone goes to festivals and it Glastonbury, the crowd has been diluted down so it’s just a cross section of society as a whole. It’s sad in a way really, bit Glastonbury is still absolutely amazing and probably wouldn’t exist of that hadn’t have happened. I’m just a little sad I didn’t experience it in hose days.

Yeah, I was 18 in 94 and we were pretty much the only people I knew in sixth form who went - despite living in Bristol. I think we were regarded as being a bit weird for doing it.

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I just watched it and its weird looking back at some of the previous headliners. Apologies but my main takes were Adele seemed quite bland, Ed Sheeran actually came across really likable and most of the mid 00s indie bands like Arctic Monkeys and the Killers sound a bit dated now. Jay Z's and Beyonce's sets looked out of this world and Coldplay are maybe quite lucky they're local and friends to the festival. As Skin pointed out the Skunk Anansie headline set seems almost trailblazing in hindsight. Also Dolly Parton really transformed the legend slot into a party slot didn't she?

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Just now, addicted2noise said:

Dolly Parton really transformed the legend slot into a party slot didnt she?

Not so sure about that:

 

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5 minutes ago, addicted2noise said:

I just watched it and its weird looking back at some of the previous headliners. Apologies but my main takes were. Adele seemed quite bland, Ed Sheeran actually came across really likeable and most of the mid 00s indie bands like Arctic Monkeys and the Killers sound a bit dated now. Jay Z's and Beyonce's sets looked out of this world and Coldplay are maybe quite lucky they're local and friends to the festival. As Skin pointed out the Skunk Anansie headline set seems almost trailblazing in hindsight. Also Dolly Parton really transformed the legend slot into a party slot didnt she?

Yeah, It’s weird because I’m a massive AM fan but looking back I’m gutted I wasn’t a glasto goer for Jay Z and Beyonce. Their sets seem to have aged incredibly well by comparison. It’s mad to think how much controversy there was at the time for Jay Z, it just seems like complete madness now. The Oasis and AM headline sets definitely do look very dated now but Jay Z and Beyoncé’s definitely do not. 

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Was it just me or did they completely erase The Whos 2015 headlining slot from the records, even when they did the oldest headliners didn't they just say the The Who in 2007?

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2 minutes ago, Blabes said:

Was it just me or did they completely erase The Whos 2015 headlining slot from the records, even when they did the oldest headliners didn't they just say the The Who in 2007?

Yes I thought exactly that, how strange. Surely the who were older in 2015 than 2007?

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Just now, Blabes said:

Was it just me or did they completely erase The Whos 2015 headlining slot from the records, even when they did the oldest headliners didn't they just say the The Who in 2007?

I thought the same. Would have made them the oldest too.

Mind you, I erased it too at the time, didn’t understand why they were back at all, never mind so soon. I’ll just about forgive Macca a return, but really The Who only needed one appearance imho

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2 hours ago, CaledonianGonzo said:

Not so sure about that:

 

Wilson was a fucksite better than Neily Dee.

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