Football 19/20

[kaosmark2]

17 minutes ago, thetime said:

Lukaku wasnt going to play much, certainly not 1st choice. If they were going to get the cash, they were going to take it. 

No point signing a striker just for the sake of it, that's the mistake united have made for years. 

I don't see much issue with the strikers, it's the midfield that's the issue. Saying that united have spent 300m just on centre midfielders, just a shame it's been failure after failure.

Least said about sanchez the better.

I don't have an issue with selling them, it's selling them and not trying to find a replacement. Lukaku may not have been a stable 1st choice, but he would have played games and scored goals.

There are absolutely no options for rotation or substitutes up front with Rashford injured. If you play 1 up front you still need 3 capable strikers for the season.

You're right though, if they spent on strikers in the same way as midfielders it would be barely any improvement. Nearly every time the club spends money it creates as many problems as it solves.

[thetime]

3 minutes ago, kaosmark2 said:

Nearly every time the club spends money it creates as many problems as it solves.

I don't think that will be a problem in the near future.

[kaosmark2]

3 minutes ago, thetime said:

I don't think that will be a problem in the near future.

Going to stop spending?

[The Nal]

51 minutes ago, pink_triangle said:

I don't see having a terrible transfer policy as being a reason for having a poor manager.

All recruitment. Managers are recruited too. Klopp gave Woodward a wide berth, Mourinho alluded to him being a bellend, as did LVG. We're in Hicks and Gillett territory here with this lot.

[zahidf]

21 minutes ago, The Nal said:

All recruitment. Managers are recruited too. Klopp gave Woodward a wide berth, Mourinho alluded to him being a bellend, as did LVG. We're in Hicks and Gillett territory here with this lot.

Also players want to play for Klopp or pep. Who wants to play for ole except old man Utd fans?...

[KVShinedown]

1 hour ago, Wooderson said:

Meh. Team is listless, players rushed back from injury, lacking in genuine leaders and has the tactical purpose of an under 11 side.

Get Poch in all 4 improve in a month. The Olly can get back to his P.E. job in Oslo.

There's a clause in Poch's old contract that gives him about 13 million reasons not to take a new job in England before June. 

But even if there wasn't Poch isn't going to magic Pogba, McTominay and Rashford back. The squad is average and paper thin and results will continue to be inconsistent until that changes. Midtable squad gets Midtable results 

[KVShinedown]

34 minutes ago, zahidf said:

Also players want to play for Klopp or pep. Who wants to play for ole except old man Utd fans?...

Do you seriously think that's a factor..? 

[zahidf]

2 minutes ago, KVShinedown said:

There's a clause in Poch's old contract that gives him about 13 million reasons not to take a new job in England before June. 

But even if there wasn't Poch isn't going to magic Pogba, McTominay and Rashford back. The squad is average and paper thin and results will continue to be inconsistent until that changes. Midtable squad gets Midtable results 

Lol they spent around 600 million on that squad

[zahidf]

Just now, KVShinedown said:

Do you seriously think that's a factor..? 

Loads of players have said working with pep and klopp is an incentive  

Anyway, utd have solved all their problems now.

 

 

 

[KVShinedown]

34 minutes ago, zahidf said:

Loads of players have said working with pep and klopp is an incentive  

Anyway, utd have solved all their problems now.

 

 

 

I rather meant that no one is turning Manchester United down because of who the manager is. 

Why are you posting bullshit from the Mail? 

[KVShinedown]

41 minutes ago, zahidf said:

Lol they spent around 600 million on that squad

What's your point? Everyone knows they've made shit investments. 

Woodward is incompetent at the football side of things and Judge is, apparently, even worse

[zahidf]

9 minutes ago, KVShinedown said:

I rather meant that no one is turning Manchester United down because of who the manager is. 

Why are you posting bullshit from the Mail? 

Its comparative. A player is going to look to join a team with a better manager as one of the factors when deciding on a move. Unless they are mercenary like Sanchez.

[The Nal]

3 hours ago, thetime said:

🤣

Smalling aswell. Turns out hes not bad. 

Anyway heres an alternative squad of people who have left the club in the last few years. This team hammers last nights team.

Henderson

Blind
Evans
Smalling

Fellaini
Herrera

Di Maria
Depay
Zaha

Ibrahimovic
Lukaku

Subs:
Sanchez
Falcao
Mkhitaryan
Schnedierlin
Januzaj
Darmian
 

[kaosmark2]

3 minutes ago, The Nal said:

Smalling aswell. Turns out hes not bad. 

Anyway heres an alternative squad of people who have left the club in the last few years. This team hammers last nights team.

Henderson

Blind
Evans
Smalling

Fellaini
Herrera

Di Maria
Depay
Zaha

Ibrahimovic
Lukaku

Subs:
Sanchez
Falcao
Mkhitaryan
Schnedierlin
Januzaj
Darmian
 

That's a pretty poor defense and is filled with players that, while talented, were incredibly inconsistent and mostly performed badly for Man U. It's a lot of fairly irrelevant big names.

[thetime]

25 minutes ago, The Nal said:

Smalling aswell. Turns out hes not bad. 

Anyway heres an alternative squad of people who have left the club in the last few years. This team hammers last nights team.

Henderson

Blind 
Evans
Smalling

Fellaini
Herrera

Di Maria
Depay
Zaha

Ibrahimovic
Lukaku

Subs:
Sanchez
Falcao
Mkhitaryan
Schnedierlin
Januzaj
Darmian
 

You been smoking some good stuff Nal? Vast majority were failures, or like smalling/Evan's who were deemed not good enough and slaughtered by fans.

Delay, Di Maria and Zaha? Blimey they were complete garbage and what was wrong with our transfer policy. Are Zaha and Depay going to play wing backs? 😂

I would even take last nights side to beat that load of waste of money. 

[zahidf]

Out of that lot, Zaha and Lukaku are the only ones better than the current team

Considering how many goals hes scored before and after Utd, it has to be managerial failures with him if you cant get him scoring at a high level. 

This years incomings are good, but in Maguire's case, massively overpriced. 

[eFestivals]

Manchester United had Martinelli on trial FOUR times and didn’t take him.  

[kaosmark2]

2 minutes ago, zahidf said:

Out of that lot, Zaha and Lukaku are the only ones better than the current team

Considering how many goals hes scored before and after Utd, it has to be managerial failures with him if you cant get him scoring at a high level. 

This years incomings are good, but in Maguire's case, massively overpriced. 

Zaha didn't really fire at Man U though, every player on that list had an individually good reason for being sold. But quite a lot of them were sold at a loss (eg. Di Maria, Sanchez), and performed both before and after.

[thetime]

6 minutes ago, zahidf said:

Out of that lot, Zaha and Lukaku are the only ones better than the current team

Considering how many goals hes scored before and after Utd, it has to be managerial failures with him if you cant get him scoring at a high level. 

This years incomings are good, but in Maguire's case, massively overpriced. 

Obviously you never saw lukaku in his last season at united. Up there with Peter Davenport and Gary Birtles.

[thetime]

1 hour ago, KVShinedown said:

What's your point? Everyone knows they've made shit investments. 

Woodward is incompetent at the football side of things and Judge is, apparently, even worse

It's not just woody and co, jose and van gaal identified these players that were failures.

Jose made the worst signings that I can remember being a united fan, shouldof kept van gaal than jose.

[Wooderson]

8 minutes ago, thetime said:

It's not just woody and co, jose and van gaal identified these players that were failures.

Jose made the worst signings that I can remember being a united fan, shouldof kept van gaal than jose.

Jose himself the worst signing by far. A dickhead.

[pink_triangle]

2 hours ago, KVShinedown said:

Do you seriously think that's a factor..? 

I don't think its the main factor, but if other things are equal such as wage/champions leage football etc then I think its a consideration.

[The Nal]

42 minutes ago, thetime said:

You been smoking some good stuff Nal? Vast majority were failures, or like smalling/Evan's who were deemed not good enough and slaughtered by fans.

Delay, Di Maria and Zaha? Blimey they were complete garbage and what was wrong with our transfer policy. Are Zaha and Depay going to play wing backs? 😂

I would even take last nights side to beat that load of waste of money. 

Phil Jones was on the pitch last night. So were Lingard, Shaw and Pereira.

All for giving managers a bit more time and the same for players. Di Maria badly handled. Couldn't speak English and struggled to adapt. But sold on after a year which was silly. Falcao I think was just too small. 

Zlatan aged 38 is better than anything there at the moment. Same for Zaha out wide. Depay was playing great stuff at Lyon until his injury. Hes still only 25.

If you want one single example of how bad a state Utd are in at the moment its that Phil Jones is still at the club and starting games.

  

1 minute ago, Wooderson said:

Jose himself the worst signing by far. A dickhead.

He finished 2nd with that squad 18 months ago.

Edited January 23, 2020 by The Nal

[thetime]

1 minute ago, The Nal said:

 

If you want one single example of how bad a state Utd are in at the moment its that Phil Jones is still at the club and starting games.

 

I wouldn't disagree, saying that we do have 3 centre backs out injured who are in front of him.

 

[The Nal]

2 minutes ago, thetime said:

I wouldn't disagree, saying that we do have 3 centre backs out injured who are in front of him.

 

He shouldn't be allowed near a football pitch.