eFestivals Posted November 11, 2019 Report Share Posted November 11, 2019 40 minutes ago, Wooderson said: Easty what did you make of Mané's dive? Shocking wunnit. think every City head exploded after they didn't get a penalty. "Lucky" liverpool. Tho if they had got a penalty it would have to have been disallowed because of the ball coming off a city player's arm leading to the goal. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gnomicide Posted November 11, 2019 Report Share Posted November 11, 2019 Treated myself to a peruse of Blue Moon forum last night. Good Lord, they really do believe the game is corrupt and it's all a conspiracy to ensure Liverpool win the title and City don't. I wonder if it's the same conspiracy that has ensured Liverpool have won the league every year for the past 30 and poor, hard done to, operating on a shoestring City never win anything. Christ knows Liverpool have more than their own share of deluded fans but that place is next level bat shit. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thetime Posted November 11, 2019 Author Report Share Posted November 11, 2019 1 hour ago, Gnomicide said: Christ knows Liverpool have more than their own share of deluded fans but that place is next level bat shit. I know Liverpool are doing really well at the minute but steady on mate. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wooderson Posted November 11, 2019 Report Share Posted November 11, 2019 4 hours ago, thetime said: I know Liverpool are doing really well at the minute but steady on mate. Pep has heard this a few times this morning I hope. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zahidf Posted November 11, 2019 Report Share Posted November 11, 2019 Sterling taking the loss hard Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wooderson Posted November 12, 2019 Report Share Posted November 12, 2019 Not too much chat on 'ere. Wonder why. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eFestivals Posted November 12, 2019 Report Share Posted November 12, 2019 14 minutes ago, Wooderson said: Not too much chat on 'ere. Wonder why. Me, I'm thinking ahead, and I can't wait to hear - if City make a CL semi-final (for the first time) - how they prioritised the CL this year so basically gave Liverpool their league win (if it happens). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wooderson Posted November 12, 2019 Report Share Posted November 12, 2019 7 minutes ago, eFestivals said: Me, I'm thinking ahead, and I can't wait to hear - if City make a CL semi-final (for the first time) - how they prioritised the CL this year so basically gave Liverpool their league win (if it happens). Heh, yeh. That's in the mail. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
priest17 Posted November 12, 2019 Report Share Posted November 12, 2019 1 hour ago, eFestivals said: Me, I'm thinking ahead, and I can't wait to hear - if City make a CL semi-final (for the first time) - how they prioritised the CL this year so basically gave Liverpool their league win (if it happens). Second. Think most City fans would still rather win the league anyway. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jyoung Posted November 12, 2019 Report Share Posted November 12, 2019 Have to say I am delighted with how the season is going so far. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gnomicide Posted November 12, 2019 Report Share Posted November 12, 2019 13 hours ago, zahidf said: Sterling taking the loss hard The thing with Sterling is that no-one really cares that he left any more but the jeering so obviously gets to him, people have kept it up. I think he's only had one decent game against Liverpool. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gnomicide Posted November 12, 2019 Report Share Posted November 12, 2019 5 hours ago, Wooderson said: Not too much chat on 'ere. Wonder why. On 11/7/2019 at 11:33 AM, eastynh said: I post when City win and avoid when they get beat. At least he admits it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wooderson Posted November 12, 2019 Report Share Posted November 12, 2019 Sterling a moron or pressure getting to him? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eFestivals Posted November 12, 2019 Report Share Posted November 12, 2019 41 minutes ago, Wooderson said: Sterling a moron or pressure getting to him? my guess is that there's peeps at Liverpool who have got the right lines to wind him up. The same probably isn't true for players at other clubs. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eastynh Posted November 12, 2019 Report Share Posted November 12, 2019 Sorry for the late reply fellas. Had some bad news last Wednesday and it shook me up a little. In regards to the match I thought City played well. City did not take their chances and Liverpool were ruthless with theirs. Its fine margins at the top level and it is critical you take your chances. In regards to the none penalty, it should have been a free kick to Liverpool. Liverpools goal should have been disallowed and it taken back for an accidental handball against Bernardo. We had a goal ruled out for far less of a handball when it glanced off Laportes hand against Spuds. At the end of the day, City played well and fought till the end. What more can you ask for really? @eFestivals City have always got the the semis of the champions league. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eFestivals Posted November 12, 2019 Report Share Posted November 12, 2019 5 minutes ago, eastynh said: Liverpools goal should have been disallowed and it taken back for an accidental handball against Bernardo. why? The ref (I presume) didn't see it at the time, and it wasn't crucial to Liverpool scoring their goal - therefore it's not within the scope of VAR. 5 minutes ago, eastynh said: We had a goal ruled out for far less of a handball when it glanced off Laportes hand against Spuds. erm ... that rule is specifically about a handball by the attacking team in the defending team's box, and is specifically about when a goal is scored. It doesn't mean any ball to hand is stopped-game and free kick. 5 minutes ago, eastynh said: @eFestivals City have always got the the semis of the champions league. I dunno about always, but yeah I got it wrong, apologies - and someone has already corrected it. Just change 'semi' to 'final' in my words. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eastynh Posted November 12, 2019 Report Share Posted November 12, 2019 2 minutes ago, eFestivals said: why? The ref (I presume) didn't see it at the time, and it wasn't crucial to Liverpool scoring their goal - therefore it's not within the scope of VAR. erm ... that rule is specifically about a handball by the attacking team in the defending team's box, and is specifically about when a goal is scored. It doesn't mean any ball to hand is stopped-game and free kick. I dunno about always, but yeah I got it wrong, apologies - and someone has already corrected it. Just change 'semi' to 'final' in my words. Well if the ref played advantage then it should have been a penalty for City. it was clearly hand ball. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zahidf Posted November 12, 2019 Report Share Posted November 12, 2019 1 hour ago, Wooderson said: Sterling a moron or pressure getting to him? He was wound up, I imagine pep was screaming at everyone all night, and he lost his temper. It's not great but in an ultra competitive game, feelings get high. Gomez said he doesn't want sterling to not play and sterling apologised. So I think the punishment given is about right. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wooderson Posted November 12, 2019 Report Share Posted November 12, 2019 Sterling stamped on VVD's ankle towards the end of the game aswell. Pisspoor. I admire him hugely and think he's in the top 10 footie players in the world but few get more riled up by LFC fans than him. He's yet to have a shot on target at Anfield since he left. Something not quite right there if he's grabbing national team mates by the neck. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eFestivals Posted November 12, 2019 Report Share Posted November 12, 2019 22 minutes ago, eastynh said: Well if the ref played advantage then it should have been a penalty for City. it was clearly hand ball. not all hand balls in the box are a foul and so a penalty. Personally I wouldn't have been outraged if it had been a penalty. I felt his arms were out too wide. Then again, the rest of his body shape justified the positions of his arms to some degree - and presumably the VAR geezer(s?) felt that justified it enough. Within the way they're working VAR, the consistent call to me would be no penalty. But it's also one of those things VAR can never ever address to everyone's satisfaction - because arms-out-too-wide is a matter of opinion, and not a measurable line. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hugh Jass Posted November 12, 2019 Report Share Posted November 12, 2019 Bit of a long shot but I've got two tickets for the England game on Thursday that I now can't make. £30 each face value, they're eTickets so can be emailed to any interested party. Any takers? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eastynh Posted November 12, 2019 Report Share Posted November 12, 2019 1 hour ago, eFestivals said: not all hand balls in the box are a foul and so a penalty. Personally I wouldn't have been outraged if it had been a penalty. I felt his arms were out too wide. Then again, the rest of his body shape justified the positions of his arms to some degree - and presumably the VAR geezer(s?) felt that justified it enough. Within the way they're working VAR, the consistent call to me would be no penalty. But it's also one of those things VAR can never ever address to everyone's satisfaction - because arms-out-too-wide is a matter of opinion, and not a measurable line. Neil it was a clear hand ball. Do you honestly think that would not have been given if it was the other way round? Its been and gone now, we just have to lick our wounds. I still think City will win the league, we just need to hang onto Liverpools coat tails till all our players get back from injury. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eFestivals Posted November 12, 2019 Report Share Posted November 12, 2019 (edited) 46 minutes ago, eastynh said: Neil it was a clear hand ball. the ball clearly hit his hand. That's a different thing to the offence of handball. What is the offence of handball is a matter of opinion. Quote Do you honestly think that would not have been given if it was the other way round? definitely wouldn't have been given, because blue moon is right, there's an anti-City conspiracy and a Liverpool love-in conspiracy. Oh how i long for the days when it was said lucky Liverpool would be found out by VAR. Quote I still think City will win the league, we just need to hang onto Liverpools coat tails till all our players get back from injury. not impossible, because you've had a bad spell of injuries and Liverpool haven't - yet. I'll probably jinx it now, but Liverpool have been generally injury-free for many seasons so that might continue. But you're discounting both of Leicester and Chelsea, where both are improving (and Leicester have been going great guns for quite a while already) - where i think it's possible either or both of them might pip you. I suspect City's main problem this year is trying to do it three years on the trot. Hard one to overcome that one. (Kompany was on the radio yesterday, talking about his last City goal; he said the run-in with Liverpool was wearing them right down. Will be worse this year.) Edited November 12, 2019 by eFestivals Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eastynh Posted November 12, 2019 Report Share Posted November 12, 2019 34 minutes ago, eFestivals said: the ball clearly hit his hand. That's a different thing to the offence of handball. What is the offence of handball is a matter of opinion. definitely wouldn't have been given, because blue moon is right, there's an anti-City conspiracy and a Liverpool love-in conspiracy. Oh how i long for the days when it was said lucky Liverpool would be found out by VAR. not impossible, because you've had a bad spell of injuries and Liverpool haven't - yet. I'll probably jinx it now, but Liverpool have been generally injury-free for many seasons so that might continue. But you're discounting both of Leicester and Chelsea, where both are improving (and Leicester have been going great guns for quite a while already) - where i think it's possible either or both of them might pip you. I suspect City's main problem this year is trying to do it three years on the trot. Hard one to overcome that one. (Kompany was on the radio yesterday, talking about his last City goal; he said the run-in with Liverpool was wearing them right down. Will be worse this year.) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eFestivals Posted November 12, 2019 Report Share Posted November 12, 2019 (edited) 5 minutes ago, eastynh said: different situation, different ref, and even different rules for what is handball as they've changed a few times in the last few years. Amongst other things, it's worth noting that the ref's and TTA's positions meant that the ref wouldn't have seen that TTA's arms were so far out from his side - and VAR is used with that in mind. The ref didn't make a clear and obvious mistake because his relative position didn't allow him to see it as a mistake; VAR is not meant to re-ref the game. Edited November 12, 2019 by eFestivals Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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