5g concerns.

[tumbles]

5 minutes ago, eFestivals said:

i'd go to that!  

Very sadly, festivals get told they have to have good phone coverage or no dice on a licence. 

A solid 2G GSM signal would suffice. Enough for texting, phone calls and nothing else

[Gedh]

Whilst we are at it, could we have a pack of drones covering each stage and they fry the phone of anyone holding their phone up and videoing or facetiming for more than 5 seconds?

[ceetee]

1 hour ago, fatyeti24 said:

My phone doesn't have 5G, so I'll be safe.  I advise anyone worried to not upgrade their mobile.

What are your credentials for offering advice on the subject?

[frostypaw]

1 hour ago, tumbles said:

as people naturally looked the frequency and realised it was the same as your microwave

You are vastly vastly overestimating most people's knowledge and understanding of science.

The last really hysterical person I talked to was convinced the wavelengths of 5G were so small they would rearrange our DNA at a molecular level, and that there were countless videos of animals going crazy and dying because of it where they'd tested it but this was all being kept shush shush for profit. Because killing everyone quickly is profitable somehow?

It is precisely anti-vax all over again and it's purpose is to convince everyone they've been lied to and that there's a huge conspiracy really running the world because it dehinges them from reality and turns them against real honest sources of information so that they can be more easily manipulated.

Lets give it to the NHS instead.

As a tweet I saw said:

Modern people as kids: Why do I have to do science and math? I'll never use this in real life
Modern people: Vaccines cause autism, the world is flat and 5g is the devil

Edited June 13, 2019 by frostypaw

[eFestivals]

11 minutes ago, frostypaw said:

The last really hysterical person I talked to was convinced the wavelengths of 5G were so small they would rearrange our DNA at a molecular level,

actually, there's more truth to that than you're crediting him for.

The wavelengths that 5g uses are of a micro-frequency that can alter animal cell structures.

But that's only been achieved by giving constant exposure and with a hugely-greater power than anything that the 5g system uses. 

Edited June 13, 2019 by eFestivals

[frostypaw]

2 minutes ago, eFestivals said:

The wavelengths that 5g uses are of a micro-frequency that can alter animal cell structures.

But that's only been achieved by giving constant exposure and with a hugely-greater power than anything that the 5g system uses. 

A loud enough sound can alter cell structures pretty badly too though. A powerful enough radio signal will cook you. Bright enough light will ablate your skin directly.

It's still not "rearranging your DNA on a molecular level" - purely claimed because it screams cancer and mutations - no sense, science or logic other than that of creating fear, uncertainty and doubt.

[UEF]

I have very grave concerns over how good my data signal is going to be. That's all, though.

 

Every single person peddling these other concerns looks like you wouldn't trust them to run a bath.

[Zoo Music Girl]

1 hour ago, tumbles said:

Funny story - week before last had to go up to Aberdeen on business. Went on the overnight sleeper train from Euston.  They have a terrific old style lounge bar with seats/tables. As the train was moving around 80mph the phone signal was crap. You know what, people put them away and started chatting, socialising and making new friends.  It was one of the best evenings I'd had in years chatting to people about what they do, families, life in general.  I'm all for a festival that has a complete blanket ban on internet services, hell phones completely. Let people socialise, let people watch bands rather than video them.  Lets go back to go forward   

As a Londoner this is my worst nightmare. Speak to strangers? On public transport?

[rhysieg]

2 hours ago, HotChipWillBreakYourLegs said:

I thought this thread was going to be about how much you can have on you before being done for intent to supply. 

? Take my upvote.

[fatyeti24]

1 hour ago, ceetee said:

What are your credentials for offering advice on the subject?

I just receive the messages.  I hover my hands over the keyboard and my fingers type what I'm sent.  I'm merely a conduit for The Truth.

You can choose not to heed the advice, or you can wake up.

[tumbles]

20 minutes ago, Zoo Music Girl said:

As a Londoner this is my worst nightmare. Speak to strangers? On public transport?

I know right?  - admittedly the amount of booze flowing certainly helped matters.  The Caledonian Sleeper should be on everyones bucket list, its quite the experience. 

[BeddyDriver]

2 hours ago, Maxthewoodman said:

Sadly this is where the misinformation spreads. As I say Im on the fence with it all, but had been told it wasn't 'live' until July, and Glasto was a trial venue.

For what its worth, Im actually trading at the festival and have had two members of staff pull out this morning after attending 5G talks. 

wow Really, are they going to wrap themselves in tin foil for the rest of their lives ?

I'm at a open evening the Wednesday after Glasto at a company who are responsible for many of the live trials going on in the UK, and for rolling out the platform going forwards. Ill raise your concerns with them for you.

Seriously some folk need to get off Facebook and get out more.

On another note head over to the resale thread, I'm sure you will find lots of volunteers in there desperate to get to the festival who will "take the risk"

Im actually in shock that anyone could relinquish a ticket for a reason with no substance whatsoever.

 

Unless of course they are just not telling you the truth, and cant be aR%ed to actually work !

 

 

 

[UEF]

10 minutes ago, fatyeti24 said:

I just receive the messages.  I hover my hands over the keyboard and my fingers type what I'm sent.  I'm merely a conduit for The Truth.

You can choose not to heed the advice, or you can wake up.

You have now qualified for a free stall holder ticket for the Healing Fields

[stuartbert two hats]

1 hour ago, ceetee said:

What are your credentials for offering advice on the subject?

He's not developed a mutation in ages.

[fred quimby]

3 hours ago, Maxthewoodman said:

 

For what its worth, Im actually trading at the festival and have had two members of staff pull out this morning after attending 5G talks. 

Um, maybe just maybe

1. They either have tickets for the festival now and don't like to say

2. Your not a very nice boss and they couldn't bring themselves to tell you

[hfuhruhurr]

3 hours ago, eFestivals said:

it does. You can tell when you compare it against the stationary sun.

/too true a fact for round here.  

Really? You mean BMTH have a cunning plan?!

[Jackomanaco]

3 hours ago, stuie said:

At last, someone with a qualification that entitles them to call bullshit, rather than the rest of us who still call bullshit but can't substantiate it!

Out of upvotes.

I've got you, have mine

 

[Gnomicide]

3 hours ago, Maxthewoodman said:

For what its worth, Im actually trading at the festival and have had two members of staff pull out this morning after attending 5G talks. 

Have a look in the resale thread if you need replacement staff.

[thrillhouse188]

4 hours ago, tumbles said:

Some of the 5G allocation is on the same band as 4G - wouldn't be surprised if that was whats being used for the festival. 4G with extra bandwidth hyped up for the festival and EE's purposes.

Non ionising radio waves are not going to hurt you unless its seriously high power and you're stood up the mast* 

If anyone think 5 days exposure is somehow going to kill you then they need a good slap.  A lot of the anti 5G slant has come directly from Russia if you read up about it.

*Qualification to know about what I'm talking about - BEng(Hons) Electronic & Comms Engineering. 

Hmm, but on the other hand someone here who's spent a couple of hours watching youtube videos says I should be worried ?  /s 

[UEF]

Same for 5G

[efcfanwirral]

3 hours ago, eFestivals said:

think of a conspiracy theory, and in today's world there's shit loads of buyers.  

The thing that makes me laugh the most about the 5g stuff going around is the people saying there's been almost no research - when the truth is there's not many things which have had as much research as radio waves.

Is it because the Chinese are so heavily involved? I keep seeing a lot about Huawei and 5g, so just assumed all the ridiculous scaremongering was because a company in the east is going to profit from it 

[jfaragher]

4 hours ago, tumbles said:

A solid 2G GSM signal would suffice. Enough for texting, phone calls and nothing else

Some networks no longer operate on 2G frequencies (i.e. Three)

[Mr.Tease]

So basically, we're going to arrive onsite and it's going to be like the film Annihilation ?

[eFestivals]

15 minutes ago, efcfanwirral said:

Is it because the Chinese are so heavily involved? I keep seeing a lot about Huawei and 5g, so just assumed all the ridiculous scaremongering was because a company in the east is going to profit from it 

nah, that's just an extra bit on top.

[Rufus Gwertigan]

People should stop worrying about 5G and just look up at all the chemtrails.