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1 minute ago, The_Preach said:

When talking about GMM and Download you are talking about niche festivals (metal festivals), instead of a mainstream festival like RW. That's also why I think there is a difference in being headline for a metal festival or a mainstream festival. For example look at FnM, headliner at GMM and probably barn head or 3rd down at RW.

volbeat is headlining rock am ring/ rock im park ? or is that also a niche festival? volbeat is just huge here, that's a fact

 

 

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1 minute ago, EV123 said:

Volbeat, Lumineers, Capaldi, Dermot Kennedy, Keane, Sum 41, Rag 'n' Bone Man are such a waste of the high slots (in my opinion off course). I really don't understand why some of these are still booked bij Werchter. I've given up completely on that Sunday MainStage. 

But who says they take high-slots? Let's just wait and see. 

Lumineers will get a sub in the barn.
Keane will sub or headline the barn. 
Capaldi will play the Barn around 20h or main around 18-20.
Rag n Bone will play during the day at main stage. 
Dermot Kennedy will play around 19-20 in the Barn. 
Sum 41 gets an afternoon slot at main stage. 
Volbeat is sub for SOAD - (something to be announced)

I don't think you should be too afraid of them taking up too high slots of possible headliners. I believe Rock Werchter plays in a higher league than giving those bands high slots. 
Ofcourse just my take on it.
 

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Just now, xydroh said:

volbeat is headlining rock am ring/ rock im park ? or is that also a niche festival? volbeat is just huge here, that's a fact

 

 

But still kind of a nich festival not as much as Download or GMM but still. I'm sure their are huge but that huge to host the final day of RW with Volbeat - SOAD. But lets just wait on new names maybe the undercard is great as well we'll see!

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1 minute ago, pigital said:

But who says they take high-slots? Let's just wait and see. 

Lumineers will get a sub in the barn.
Keane will sub or headline the barn. 
Capaldi will play the Barn around 20h or main around 18-20.
Rag n Bone will play during the day at main stage. 
Dermot Kennedy will play around 19-20 in the Barn. 
Sum 41 gets an afternoon slot at main stage. 
Volbeat is sub for SOAD - (something to be announced)

I don't think you should be too afraid of them taking up too high slots of possible headliners. I believe Rock Werchter plays in a higher league than giving those bands high slots. 
Ofcourse just my take on it.
 

That list seems very feasible! Agreed

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6 minutes ago, EV123 said:

I guess this is the worst they could do for me. 

Black Pumas and Meute, that's it for me. Paak is also nice, but he was there in 2018. 

Volbeat, Lumineers, Capaldi, Dermot Kennedy, Keane, Sum 41, Rag 'n' Bone Man are such a waste of the high slots (in my opinion off course). I really don't understand why some of these are still booked bij Werchter. I've given up completely on that Sunday MainStage. 

And really embarrassing that there is no female act on the line-up for the moment with 1/4 of the bands booked. 

Couldn’t agree more

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1 minute ago, The_Preach said:

But still kind of a nich festival not as much as Download or GMM but still. I'm sure their are huge but that huge to host the final day of RW with Volbeat - SOAD. But lets just wait on new names maybe the undercard is great as well we'll see!

volbeat was already subbing rock werchter in 2013. 7 years later and much more popular now they would suddenly drop a position? I just don't see it happening

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1 minute ago, pigital said:

But who says they take high-slots? Let's just wait and see. 

Lumineers will get a sub in the barn.
Keane will sub or headline the barn. 
Capaldi will play the Barn around 20h or main around 18-20.
Rag n Bone will play during the day at main stage. 
Dermot Kennedy will play around 19-20 in the Barn. 
Sum 41 gets an afternoon slot at main stage. 
Volbeat is sub for SOAD - (something to be announced)

I don't think you should be too afraid of them taking up too high slots of possible headliners. I believe Rock Werchter plays in a higher league than giving those bands high slots. 
Ofcourse just my take on it.
 

Oh, you don't think these are high slots? Keane as a sub or barn head is just ridiculous. They should have left them in 2012. Just as Sum 41. 

As I said, I understand they are popular and will take the higher slots. But for me, it's just sad to see. Moreover, all the names mentioned played in 17, 18 or even 19!

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2 minutes ago, EV123 said:

Oh, you don't think these are high slots? Keane as a sub or barn head is just ridiculous. They should have left them in 2012. Just as Sum 41. 

As I said, I understand they are popular and will take the higher slots. But for me, it's just sad to see. Moreover, all the names mentioned played in 17, 18 or even 19!

Do you then also feel the same about it with Pearl Jam? FNM? SOAD? Pixies? 

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33 minutes ago, xydroh said:

volbeat was already subbing rock werchter in 2013. 7 years later and much more popular now they would suddenly drop a position? I just don't see it happening

Not drop, they will still be sub. But probably to two co-heads instead of one headliner. Both RW and Volbeat themselves don’t mention them ‘headlining’ in the announcements or on the socials. That, plus the fact that they are announced within a package of 12 names (did that ever happen with a (co-)headliner?) make me suspect they will sub and not headline. 

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47 minutes ago, EV123 said:

Oh, you don't think these are high slots? Keane as a sub or barn head is just ridiculous. They should have left them in 2012. Just as Sum 41. 

As I said, I understand they are popular and will take the higher slots. But for me, it's just sad to see. Moreover, all the names mentioned played in 17, 18 or even 19!

Well, Keane have not played Werchter since 2007. So they don't really fit into that category.

Saw them on Monday at the AB and even though it was a bit long for my taste, I think they have the songs to be a good 60-min-or-so act in the late afternoon. I'm not sure they will headline or even sub the Barn.

Anyway, this is turning out pretty well imo.

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8 minutes ago, SDNL said:

So, gun to your head, how many more headliners/subs do you think are still to come?

depends on what you count as headliners

barn closer is also technically barn “headliner”, if you count these, then we got some good big names still to come, expecting an announcement on “festival closer” as well where it says that specifically in the announcement 

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47 minutes ago, pigital said:

Do you then also feel the same about it with Pearl Jam? FNM? SOAD? Pixies? 

But these bands have a certain legacy? The bands I'm talking about are bands with one or maybe two hits 10 (or 20) years ago. They were probably fun to see back in the day, but they shouldn't be booked anymore by a major festival. And be honest, on which major festival in Europe are Keane and Sum 41 still on the bill? Pinkpop and certainly some German rock festivals will have Sum 41. 

I just feel that Werchter as one of the most prominent majors in the festival world is getting behind its competitors (and certainly the lack of female acts shows this for me). But I have the impression that I'm quite alone with this opinion, so I'll just accept these bands and if there are too many then there is always DTRH or Roskilde.  

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4 minutes ago, EV123 said:

But these bands have a certain legacy? The bands I'm talking about are bands with one or maybe two hits 10 (or 20) years ago. They were probably fun to see back in the day, but they shouldn't be booked anymore by a major festival. And be honest, on which major festival in Europe are Keane and Sum 41 still on the bill? Pinkpop and certainly some German rock festivals will have Sum 41. 

I just feel that Werchter as one of the most prominent majors in the festival world is getting behind its competitors (and certainly the lack of female acts shows this for me). But I have the impression that I'm quite alone with this opinion, so I'll just accept these bands and if there are too many then there is always DTRH or Roskilde.  

It's just way too early to draw these kind of conclusions, both in regards to the balance new/old as concerning the number of female acts. 

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I really don't think SOAD will be closing the festival. I don't think they'd want a headliner that more than 50% of the people don't enjoy at all (they might be very good but its a niche genre). 

I don't think Strokes and Tame Impala will be performing together either, it would be perfect to me but not enough to sell out on daytickets (not even close). However, it seems like I can't be right on both. Unless they are going to use their 'reserve option' Kings of Leon. 

Tame - Pearl Jam

Strokes - KoL

Fnm - ToP - Kendrick

Volbeat - Soad - Foo Fighters

Lets see. We're definetly getting more (sub/co)-headliners.

 

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23 minutes ago, Verminkt said:

I really don't think SOAD will be closing the festival. I don't think they'd want a headliner that more than 50% of the people don't enjoy at all (they might be very good but its a niche genre). 

I don't think Strokes and Tame Impala will be performing together either, it would be perfect to me but not enough to sell out on daytickets (not even close). However, it seems like I can't be right on both. Unless they are going to use their 'reserve option' Kings of Leon. 

Tame - Pearl Jam

Strokes - KoL

Fnm - ToP - Kendrick

Volbeat - Soad - Foo Fighters

Lets see. We're definetly getting more (sub/co)-headliners.

 

This would mean heaven to me

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