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48 minutes ago, Gnomicide said:

Loads of idiots sitting on the floor in the front section before both The Killers and (to a lesser extent) The Cure, all looking outraged if someone stepped over them or nudged them as they tried to get past. I had a go at them but was just ignored or abused.

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It was the same before miley. That was my only gripe.

They were all about under about 22 and I wondered if it was an age thing?

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Maybe, just maybe, it’s time for some friendly advice being put on the screens or stewards in the crowd during rammed pyramid performances regarding chairs, picnic rugs, having a kip etc especially from the front of stage back to the sound towers.  It was really busy at the rear during Kylie, Miley yet I was told that there was more space half way down but this was inaccessible . Remember that such artists attract kids and having adult groups setting up close to the stage taking up massive amounts of space with their chairs etc is inconsiderate and selfish. 

Other festivals actually ban such activity near the stage . Chairs etc only at the back.  During the killers there was five lads with those inflatable couch things, must have taken up 20 square metres of precious space. 

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1 hour ago, Gnomicide said:

Between other sets maybe but not when the next one up is the headliner, it was obvious all those stood up were packing in pretty tightly and loads more were trying to squeeze through. 

Fair point, well made.  I'll give you that one :)

52 minutes ago, Hugh Jass said:

I did go down and have a look at IICON during the day and it did look mightily impressive.

Aye, did that on Thursday and it looked bloody good. Think Sat was the only night I ventured SE and it was great in full swing. I've pretty much stopped with the SEC due to crowding as well, but it wasn't too bad on Sat night at all. Block 9 at least.

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2 minutes ago, Ayrshire Chris said:

Maybe, just maybe, it’s time for some friendly advice being put on the screens or stewards in the crowd during rammed pyramid performances regarding chairs, picnic rugs, having a kip etc especially from the front of stage back to the sound towers.  It was really busy at the rear during Kylie, Miley yet I was told that there was more space half way down but this was inaccessible . Remember that such artists attract kids and having adult groups setting up close to the stage taking up massive amounts of space with their chairs etc is inconsiderate and selfish. 

Other festivals actually ban such activity near the stage . Chairs etc only at the back.  During the killers there was five lads with those inflatable couch things, must have taken up 20 square metres of precious space. 

I do wonder if zones would be a good idea. I am someone who brings a chair but generally as soon as it gets busy I pack it away mainly because I personally feel too vulnerable having people going past them. I need it for lower back support but this year I still found I mainly just used it between acts and put it away. I also don't go near the Pyramid stage much at all. I saw 3 and a half acts there all weekend and the half was just to get a good spot for one of the acts I did like. I didn't use my chair there once but I have seen last year before Radiohead in the front section people expecting to be able to sit down and think it is completely unreasonable. 

Can I make a call for a quiet zone for people who want to listen to the music as well?? 

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Yeah the SE Corner didn't seem as bad crowding wise to me as it has in previous years.

Might be way off, but I'd put this down to a combo of the shiny new Arcadia, complete with big name line up, and the constant heat meaning a decent number of people didn't have the energy for a late night rager.

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8 minutes ago, waltere said:

Yeah the SE Corner didn't seem as bad crowding wise to me as it has in previous years.

Might be way off, but I'd put this down to a combo of the shiny new Arcadia, complete with big name line up, and the constant heat meaning a decent number of people didn't have the energy for a late night rager.

There was a fair bit of effort to make people aware of what else was on late night as well.  The after hours bit in the programme was definitely more explicit about what bars / stages / areas were open and until what time.  I know the Greenpeace Field under the DJ tree was much busier than I recall previously.

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I thought it was less crowded too. Not only did I get straight in through the feeder lane in T&C both nights I visited, but only Shangri-La seemed at all crowded in any way. Other than IICON though, much was similar to 2017. The Cave had been modified and bits like Latino moved out, however Shangri-La was much the same in concept and layout.

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6 minutes ago, Pinhead said:

I thought it was less crowded too. Not only did I get straight in through the feeder lane in T&C both nights I visited, but only Shangri-La seemed at all crowded in any way. Other than IICON though, much was similar to 2017. The Cave had been modified and bits like Latino moved out, however Shangri-La was much the same in concept and layout.

I wonder if Shangri-la will get a big refresh next year, it was their tenth year, this year wasn't it?  Maybe they thought of seeing out the decade with this concept and then renewing for the next decade and the  50th - just speculating mind. 

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Sitters are fine if it's between gigs, but when it starts getting busy they should realise they need to get up and make space for others. 

Phone and video taking pisses me off more, esp as the sound will be dogshit anyway when they watch it back (if they ever do watch it again), and I seem to attract the berk who wants to film the whole gig standing right in front of me. Normally they put it down once you ask/tell them to. 

On the flipside, I've been really lucky with talkers, except during Regina Spektor in 2009, and some idiots clearly had no idea how quiet her sets were and were waiting for N.E.R.D, chatting nonsense. 

Also, people walking past is fine generally, but one group before Rationale in 2017 were total twats about it and were using peoples shoulders to grab hold of and pull themselves through. Upperclass college kids, who then preceeded to sing to each other duing his songs over other people, including my girlfriend who is about 5'4'', they were just pointing at each other like idiots and singing over her, totally disrespectful lot and put a dampener on the first gig of the festival.

Bag-carriers again annoy me a bit. If it's a busy set and you've got your rucksack on your back, don't be surprised that people get annoyed at you when they want to squeeze past or you're dancing around. Just put it on the floor for fucks sake. 

Arse-grabbing and any other body parts, is just about the sleaziest thing to happen at a gig and the offenders deserve a good slap in the face, nevermind a drink

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3 hours ago, The Nal said:

Probably the best crowds I've seen at the festival. The weather made everyone relaxed and chilled, people could sit down and the sound at the festival - which probably deserves its own thread - was top notch at every stage I was at. 

Apart from the power issues at Snapped Ankles in Strummerville. 

I loved it at the end when they just kept playing, forcing them to pull the plug.

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1 hour ago, ktej said:

I wonder if Shangri-la will get a big refresh next year, it was their tenth year, this year wasn't it?  Maybe they thought of seeing out the decade with this concept and then renewing for the next decade and the  50th - just speculating mind. 

I reckon they could do with a bit of a shake up. 

I miss the alleyways and micro venues, when you'd walk in a door and literally not know what was on the other side... maybe a bar, maybe a story teller, maybe a shrine to Lionel Richie,  maybe people dressed in lab coats with rat masks on making you do different types of tests (True story) ! 

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3 hours ago, Gnomicide said:

My only trip to SE corner was because they've now annoyingly included Avalon in it so had to go through the one way system to get in there. Didn't see any queues to get in though.

The main problem was I wanted to get to Caberet after being in Avalon so had to leave via the railway track and walk all the way round.

Was that Friday night? We ran into the same issue, had assumed it was because Frank Turner had such a large crowd they didn't want to cut off access to the railway line. Certainly seemed odd.

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2 hours ago, Quark said:

There was a fair bit of effort to make people aware of what else was on late night as well.  The after hours bit in the programme was definitely more explicit about what bars / stages / areas were open and until what time.  I know the Greenpeace Field under the DJ tree was much busier than I recall previously.

That was a great little spot - on more than one occasion we stayed there / convinced people to stay there rather than head down to SE.

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1 hour ago, Pinhead said:

I thought it was less crowded too. Not only did I get straight in through the feeder lane in T&C both nights I visited, but only Shangri-La seemed at all crowded in any way. Other than IICON though, much was similar to 2017. The Cave had been modified and bits like Latino moved out, however Shangri-La was much the same in concept and layout.

Yep, it was muuuuuch better than last time I was there in 2015 - we actually gave up in the queue a few times that year (hell, one year previously, I crowdsurfed through it)

Every time I went down there this year (usually sometime between 00:30-1:30) you could just stroll in... and usually get a high five from a steward on the crush barriers for your trouble 💗

Has to be simply that there are more options... although maybe people were flaking out a little more after the hot days too. But Arcadia was drawing good crowds and the bars with soundsystems were heaving all weekend... it's not everyone crammed into an awkwardly-fitting section now... the ravers end up in the SE Corner, the casuals end up at Arcadia and everyone who doesn't really want to extend their night electronically has an option elsewhere to stay up for.

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3 hours ago, discgoesmic said:

Annie's set should've been on JP, or at least Williams Green.

Problem is, William's Green was also rammed at that time for Pale Waves/Elvana/Old Dirty Brasstards. I've always thought it would help hugely with the crowds if they could just open up the JP on the Thursday though. As it's a tent, is it not similar licence-wise to the other tents that are open on Thursday?

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9 minutes ago, The Martini Police said:

Problem is, William's Green was also rammed at that time for Pale Waves/Elvana/Old Dirty Brasstards. I've always thought it would help hugely with the crowds if they could just open up the JP on the Thursday though. As it's a tent, is it not similar licence-wise to the other tents that are open on Thursday?

Totally agree here - the Introducing was just way too small. I forgot about those sets actually. It's the first time I've ever seen any hint of overcrowding/danger in a Glasto crowd. Not sure about the licensing, would be interesting to find out.

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53 minutes ago, DeanoL said:

Was that Friday night? We ran into the same issue, had assumed it was because Frank Turner had such a large crowd they didn't want to cut off access to the railway line. Certainly seemed odd.

Same every night, it's now part of the set up. As I didn't have to queue to get in it wasn't a problem (just a longer walk) but a pain now you can't go straight between Avalon and Caberet as that's were I spend most of my evenings.

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7 minutes ago, Gnomicide said:

Same every night, it's now part of the set up. As I didn't have to queue to get in it wasn't a problem (just a longer walk) but a pain now you can't go straight between Avalon and Caberet as that's were I spend most of my evenings.

Can you not walk through from Avalon through Ridge & Furrow field in the evenings anymore?

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Great crowd - best since 08/09. Noticed less talking, less filming and more singing and dancing.

I did spend considerably more time away from the main stage though and that may have had something to do with it.

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32 minutes ago, The Nal said:

Can you not walk through from Avalon through Ridge & Furrow field in the evenings anymore?

I only tried the once (on Friday) and that gap was blocked off.

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44 minutes ago, The Nal said:

Can you not walk through from Avalon through Ridge & Furrow field in the evenings anymore?

It seemed like this year for the purposes of the SEC corner access restrictions, once they went into place Avalon was considered to be inside the corden. You had to exit Avalon via the railway track, or walk along the market path to Green Peace where there was an exit-only barrier.

The flipside was that if you were watching a headliner or sub in Avalon and wanted to go straight to SEC you could do so easily and skip any queues.

edit: That's how it was on Friday anyway. I've got a vague memory of it being different on the Saturday night.

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2 minutes ago, incident said:

It seemed like this year for the purposes of the SEC corner access restrictions, once they went into place Avalon was considered to be inside the corden. You had to exit Avalon via the railway track, or walk along the market path to Green Peace where there was an exit-only barrier.

The flipside was that if you were watching a headliner or sub in Avalon and wanted to go straight to SEC you could do so easily and skip any queues.

edit: That's how it was on Friday anyway. I've got a vague memory of it being different on the Saturday night.

I defo saw some of Cat Empire coming from Sleaford Mods towards the Chems but can't remember how I got there because I was drinking brandy.

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4 hours ago, Ayrshire Chris said:

Maybe, just maybe, it’s time for some friendly advice being put on the screens or stewards in the crowd during rammed pyramid performances regarding chairs, picnic rugs, having a kip etc especially from the front of stage back to the sound towers.  It was really busy at the rear during Kylie, Miley yet I was told that there was more space half way down but this was inaccessible . Remember that such artists attract kids and having adult groups setting up close to the stage taking up massive amounts of space with their chairs etc is inconsiderate and selfish. 

Other festivals actually ban such activity near the stage . Chairs etc only at the back.  During the killers there was five lads with those inflatable couch things, must have taken up 20 square metres of precious space. 

I certainly think chairs should be banned from the front pit of the pyramid. I'm also of the opinion it should be a one way system - you come in one side and go out the other. It is *always* horrific coming out if its the evening sub headliner etc.  Amazed nobody has ever got hurt in someways. 

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I call them fucking newbies who have no idea about Glastonbury.  They come in with their hunter wellies chatting about how there should be proper shaded areas and where are the cocktail bars.  God knows what they would have done if it had pissed down 

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