Is it OK to book bands who sing about killing Tories?

[Dave_c]

3 minutes ago, CaledonianGonzo said:

The sticks and stones rhyme is to help children who're being bullied feel better - not a code to live by.

I don't mean that because of this rhyme it is ok to intentionally offend someone, just that people need to be able to walk past something that offends them when it is not directed at them with that intent.

[Mr.Tease]

2 minutes ago, VCK said:

Fat White Family should be banned from the festival, not because they talk about wanting to kill Tories, but because their music is garbage.

I like their new album

 

[CaledonianGonzo]

1 minute ago, Dave_c said:

I don't mean that because of this rhyme it is ok to intentionally offend someone, just that people need to be able to walk past something that offends them when it is not directed at them with that intent.

In the case of the (one or two?) people who were up in arms about Killdren playing Glastonbury, agreed.

Actual bullying - words will never hurt me - is a different matter.

[Losing my hair]

3 minutes ago, Mr.Tease said:

I like their new album

 

So do I - how could we be so wrong! - and I thought that were great live as well, or least I thought that until self appointed arbiters of taste informed me otherwise.

[Mr.Tease]

1 minute ago, Losing my hair said:

So do I - how could we be so wrong! - and I thought that were great live as well, or least I thought that until self appointed arbiters of taste informed me otherwise.

All that time we thought we were just enjoying their music, we were really just being groomed to murder Tories! The shame! Quick Glastonbury, protect us from this wicked band!

[BlackHole2006]

There’s a bloke called Frank Sinazi, his act is literally changing Frank Sinatra songs into anti sematic lyrics, he plays Glastonbury every year. Why isn’t there outrage in the media over him? 

We can joke about killing jews but we can’t joke about killing tories?

[HotChipWillBreakYourLegs]

Disgraceful.  Glasto was the last place I thought would be caving into the right wing press.  Now that they smell blood I reckon they will be in for more. 

[Martin Ashford]

This "story" like so many in the media seems a bit desperate. Where did it originate i wonder? it's clearly part of the Corbyn smear at any cost campaign that Murdoch has been ratchetting up since Corbyn became Labour Leader. The Festival gave a platform for Corbyn therefore attack the festival and its lefty supporters by association. The Press don't like us you know.

[Wilfko]

I just pity people who think there's something inherintly powerful or edgy about the phrase.

 

 

[Wilfko]

16 minutes ago, BlackHole2006 said:

There’s a bloke called Frank Sinazi, his act is literally changing Frank Sinatra songs into anti sematic lyrics, he plays Glastonbury every year. Why isn’t there outrage in the media over him? 

We can joke about killing jews but we can’t joke about killing tories?

Ay? That an actual thing? 

Edit: after a brief Google.. It is an actual thing. 

Edited June 2, 2019 by Wilfko

[BlackHole2006]

Just now, Wilfko said:

Ay? That an actual thing? 

Yeah, it’s a parody act but the media could easily twist it into something more sinister if they want it too. 

[mikehawk]

Don't remember this fuss over Run the Jewels playing. They, and I'm sure many others have suggested violence towards the police. 

[Losing my hair]

2 minutes ago, BlackHole2006 said:

Yeah, it’s a parody act but the media could easily twist it into something more sinister if they want it too. 

They type of people who post on 4Chan, Reddit, Voat etc though don't get the parody and think he's for real.

[Eyebrow]

51 minutes ago, CaledonianGonzo said:

It's not about offence though. It's about the context in which the words are used.  Punching up is generally ok, punching down generally isn't.  Words can be used to harass or intimidate vulnerable people.  They're not just meaningless noise.

The sticks and stones rhyme is to help children who're being bullied feel better - not a code to live by.

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[strummer77]

9 hours ago, GETOFFAMYLAWN said:

Yeah, without knowing the context it just seems like a dweeby kid's rant about the shit that gets played in bars and clubs. Which, for the archetypical Smiths fan that most of this board were at 17/18 years old, seems like a really smart thing to request in the shite indie discos playing landfill and Britpop you have to go to because all your mates aren't as precious or individual as you are.

I read that’s Guardian article too but didn’t Marr say he was listening to Chernobyl news and then Wham came on? I think that was the origin.

Morrissey is pretty abhorrent now and clearly had some dodgy views throughout but not sure that particular song is really a racist tirade in this case - Marr seems sound still anyway and hasn’t disowned it

Edited June 2, 2019 by strummer77

[stopwn1981]

We reap what we sow. As someone else said earlier - either everything is fair game or nothing is.

[philipsteak]

1 hour ago, Wilfko said:

Ay? That an actual thing? 

Edit: after a brief Google.. It is an actual thing. 

Yep, stumbled across his act (and others) somewhere in the early hours of Monday morning in 2017. Was a pretty odd end to the festival

[H.M.V]

I'm kinda shocked that a band got canned because of a daily fail article. Hate the precedent it sets. 

[MrZigster]

So where are The Daily Heil stories regarding XRW music festivals?

Will Glastonbury end up on a Home Office XLW list?

Just found this thread. Same old same old:

 

[Mash011]

Shame on the festival for letting Daily Mail pearl clutchers push them around on this. Leave the artists alone. 

[Splonk]

Shocking decision. ?

 

[Ommadawn]

I suspect that if it was a right wing festival who had booked a band whose lyrics called for the killing of Socialists, there might be a different response here.

[Ryan1984]

A band called The KILLERS are headlining the Pyramid Stage...

[dentalplan]

1 minute ago, Ryan1984 said:

A band called The KILLERS are headlining the Pyramid Stage...

Are you trying to get them removed from the lineup?

Good idea.

[Mash011]

31 minutes ago, Ommadawn said:

I suspect that if it was a right wing festival who had booked a band whose lyrics called for the killing of Socialists, there might be a different response here.

Thing there is that socialists are good and tories are evil bastards. 

I for one will be boycotting the festival this year over this decision.

Edited June 2, 2019 by Mash011