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10,000 people snorting powdered horse tranquilizer for 5 days straight and my guy is out here worried about millimetre waves...

I saw 5G Murdering Death Towers in Williams Green in 2017.  They were alright. 

People need to realise that wireless technology is advancing fast, and while 5G may give us faster, better communications through its millimetre wave form, it comes at a price. At the heart of 5G are

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Why are all these loons focused on Glastonbury? 5G is up in 6 cities in the UK including Edinburgh where I live and I have heard not a peep of this bullshit up here. Yet literally every story about Glastonbury has comments from these trolls.

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2 hours ago, Derek Reynolds said:

So this is what - guesswork?

From one of the links supplied by Frostypaw.

The American Society for Reproductive Medicine

Result(s)

The comparisons of mean sperm count, motility, viability, and normal morphology among four different cell phone user groups were statistically significant. Mean sperm motility, viability, and normal morphology were significantly different in cell phone user groups within two sperm count groups. The laboratory values of the above four sperm parameters decreased in all four cell phone user groups as the duration of daily exposure to cell phones increased.

Conclusion(s)

Use of cell phones decrease the semen quality in men by decreasing the sperm count, motility, viability, and normal morphology. The decrease in sperm parameters was dependent on the duration of daily exposure to cell phones and independent of the initial semen quality.

I only provided one link buddy, rubbishing your source.

Can you state exactly where in my one link this was? AAAAH yes.... here it is.

 

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Men’s fertility
Davis devotes another chapter to the assertion that cell phone radiation affects male fertility. On page 140 she states:

"A report from researchers8 garnered headlines around the world, such as Cell Phones Lower Sperm Count."

On page 141 she continues with:

"The Cleveland researchers referred to their results, in the customary voice of science, as preliminary, and duly called for more research."

Despite this caution, she proceeds to tie together a handful of disparate sperm studies to back up her sensational claim that cell phones reduce male fertility.

She ignores the fact that all of the studies she cites have been criticized for poor methodology, and some have failed attempts at replication.9-10 In its 2009 assessment Health Effects of Exposure to EMF, the European SCENIHR5 (pages 32-33) had this to say:

"The authors reported8 that reduced sperm quality was associated with duration of daily exposure to mobile phones assessed by interview and with duration of use of mobile phones assessed by questionnaire. However, possible confounding due to lifestyle differences (associated with differences in the use of mobile phones) may have biased the results of both studies."

Davis sums up her case with this bold claim on page 146:

"We must remember that we live in a world in which some continue to believe evolution itself is a sort of preliminary theory."

Are you actually genuine, and if so why are you continuing to flop out the exact studies that you've just been informed are rubbish? Specifically picking ones that you think will invoke a strong emotional reaction in men, attempting to manipulate people rather than reason with?

Who actually thinks people who have to do that are "in the right"?

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10 minutes ago, mcshed said:

Why are all these loons focused on Glastonbury? 5G is up in 6 cities in the UK including Edinburgh where I live and I have heard not a peep of this bullshit up here. Yet literally every story about Glastonbury has comments from these trolls.

Twitter and Facebook. Some people are easily manipulated. 

Social media interactions are designed to maximise the release of oxytocin and dopamine in the brain in order to create a strong positive emotional feedback loop.

https://medium.com/@whitneyvmorgan/how-social-media-is-killing-your-oxytocin-levels-and-keeping-you-from-being-your-happiest-self-89e327a375c3

These sort of people deserve sympathy as opposed to ridicule as they're complete thickos.

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https://www.telegraph.co.uk/health-fitness/body/wifi-internet-family-dangerous-health/

Telegraph from 2015.

Public Health is a serious question and EMF radiation and health issues is nothing new. Why would 5G be less harmful? if it is great , but experts in the field say the short wavelengths involved are more damaging.
That Glastonbury Festival would associate with Extinction rebellion #WrongKindofGreen and corporatism of the whole event suggests that the degree of propaganda infecting what used to be popular culture is deeply troubling.

http://www.wrongkindofgreen.org/the-group-of-ten/

 

Extinction Rebellion Globalists linked to 5G Rollout

Gail Marie Bradbrook : COMPASSIONATE REVOLUTION

Links to BROADBAND STAKEHOLDERS GROUP

The Broadband Stakeholder Group has published a report on ‘Lowering barriers to 5G deployment‘. It outlines the challenges and solutions to deploying new mobile infrastructure necessary to meet the UK Government’s ambition to be a 5G leader.

The report – ‘Lowering barriers to 5G deployment’ – is the outcome of a study by Analysys Mason researching barriers to 5G deployment from both industry and local authority perspectives in the UK, identifying key challenges faced during the deployment process. The report aims to assist the UK Government in delivering its ambition to be a 5G leader by identifying and proposing solutions to current and potential barriers to network deployment.

Legal barriers, deployment issues and challenges with stakeholder engagement all have the potential to delay the rollout of 5G. Taken together and against a general background of uncertainty regarding the business case for denser 5G networks, these could also ultimately limit the deployment of 5G infrastructure.

OTHER LINKS INCLUDE : Dept OF Culture, SKY, Talk Talk VODAPHONE , WIRELSS INFRASTRUCTURE GROUP

https://steemit.com/news/@francesleader/from-occupy-to-extinction-rebellion-exposing-the-common-purpose

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2 hours ago, stuartbert two hats said:

You know, I was sceptical about this whole thing, but ever since the festival, I've felt terrible!

I just want to eat and sleep and weep all the time. My feet are really hurting and I think the radiation has fried my skin, some of it has gone brown, and some even went red. I really don't trust 5G any more, do you think this is something to do with the Huweway stuff?

Pah. Underappreciated comment!

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4 minutes ago, Roger G Lewis said:

Why would 5G be less harmful? if it is great , but experts in the field say the short wavelengths involved are more damaging.osing-the-common-purpose

But they don't.

 

Just the ranting drunken incoherent loons that would have no platform other than a park bench if they didn't have the internet to pretend to be proper.

 

Why can't you tell the difference? Do you like to feel special and as if you've been clever enough to resolve a great secret?

Someone had spent a lot of money on shiny anti-5G flyers to try and make it look serious, still just full of scare nonsense and it cost me some festival time throwing them in the recycling.

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6 minutes ago, Roger G Lewis said:

Dr Graham Downing

Dr Graham Downing

Dr. Graham S. Downing is a consultant in Neuro-musculoskeletal & Functional Medicine. He graduated from King’s College London University where he trained in the clinical sciences and molecular biology and attended the Randall Institute as a research student whilst still under the Directorship of Dr Wilkins, Nobel prize winner for his co-discovery of DNA; and European Institute of Health and Medical Sciences, Surrey University where he received an MSc with a specialist area of research in psychoneuroimmunology in the clinical practice.

Dr. Downing was invited to read for a Ph.D at Oxford’s leading research institute, Sir William Dunn School of Pathology but decided on a clinical career instead. He is one of only two doctors in Europe that have received training at consultant level in diagnosis and treatment of internal medical disorders at the Texas Chiropractic College, USA; and advanced Wilderness medicine.

His specialist fields are neuro-musculoskeletal & functional Medicine (with a focus on fertility, endocrinology, infection and gastro-intestinal problems). He has produced science and clinical reports since February 1993 and medico-legal reports since April 2010 as an expert witness.

He is currently President and Director of Clinical Education for a European organisation that sets standards of clinical proficiency and trains healthcare providers, including medical doctors, chiropractors, osteopaths, physiotherapists, herbalists, homoeopaths, nutritionist, functional medicine doctors and other health disciplines to consultant level.

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21 minutes ago, frostypaw said:

But they don't.

 

Just the ranting drunken incoherent loons that would have no platform other than a park bench if they didn't have the internet to pretend to be proper.

 

Why can't you tell the difference? Do you like to feel special and as if you've been clever enough to resolve a great secret?

Someone had spent a lot of money on shiny anti-5G flyers to try and make it look serious, still just full of scare nonsense and it cost me some festival time throwing them in the recycling.

Don't be a tool dismissing people whose opinion you disagree with as loons. Government ministers, scientists and researchers have all expressed serious concerns about 5G and the lack of testing of the biological effects of it on the population. 

Brussel government, and Geneva and Vaud Switzerland have ALL halted 5G rollout over health concerns after power output from 5g exceeded their safety thresholds. Government ministers have said they would not let their citizens be used as guinea pigs.

Celine Fremault, Minister of the Government of the Brussels-Capital Region Responsible For Housing, Quality Of Life, Environment And Energy released the statement in an interview with L’Echo:“I cannot welcome such technology if the radiation standards, which must protect the citizen, are not respected, 5G or not. The people of Brussels are not guinea pigs whose health I can sell at a profit. We cannot leave anything to doubt."
See https://www.worldhealth.net/news/brussels-first-major-city-halt-5g-due-health-effects/
Dutch MPs have also called for a halt to 5G until the WHO has done more testing..GroenLinks is urging the Lower House in the Dutch parliament for an independent investigation by the Health Council into 5G radiation. Laura Bromet, member of parliament: “We still don’t know about the dangers to public health. Little research has been done into the effects of 5G. We need to take people’s concerns seriously and investigate this. ”

Dismiss them all as conspiracy theorists if you wish, but I would argue you are being extremely foolhardy. France has banned all WIFI from nursery schools over health concerns, as radiation penetrates childs skulls more easily. Dismiss them as conspiracy theorists if you will.

There is no scientific consensus as to whether 5G is safe or not. It has NOT been proven beyond any doubt to be safe. Government funded research often gives the answers their customers want. Many non industry funded research papers link wireless radiation to biological effects on cells. See https://ehtrust.org/science/research-on-wireless-health-effects/ Thats why hundreds of scientists have called on the EU to halt 5G rollout until more H&S testing has been done into the biological effects.Industry, unsuprisingly does not recognise wireless radiation can cause biological damage.. imagine the law suits! Major insurers will not insurer wireless device manufacturers against being sued for health problems. Interesting... Many scientific peer reviewed reports have indicated biological and DNA changes as a result of wireless, NON ionising radiation. See the 5G Appeal site, and the AUVA report https://www.jrseco.com/major-austrian-insurer-auva-finds-effects-of-cell-phones-on-dna-eeg-and-human-proteins/ or the EU Reflex study https://www.jrseco.com/eu-reflex-study-shows-dna-damage-caused-by-radiation-from-wireless-devices-and-mobile-phones/

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5 minutes ago, The Nal said:

Twitter and Facebook. Some people are easily manipulated. 

Social media interactions are designed to maximise the release of oxytocin and dopamine in the brain in order to create a strong positive emotional feedback loop.

https://medium.com/@whitneyvmorgan/how-social-media-is-killing-your-oxytocin-levels-and-keeping-you-from-being-your-happiest-self-89e327a375c3

These sort of people deserve sympathy as opposed to ridicule as they're complete thickos.

There's a big social media push for the public consultation on city centre pedestrianisation, the comments are all people complaining about potential traffic problems if this was Glastonbury related every 3rd person would be shouting about 5G.

 

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10 minutes ago, Roger G Lewis said:

Dr Graham Downing

Dr Graham Downing

Dr. Graham S. Downing is a consultant in Neuro-musculoskeletal & Functional Medicine. He graduated from King’s College London University where he trained in the clinical sciences and molecular biology and attended the Randall Institute as a research student whilst still under the Directorship of Dr Wilkins, Nobel prize winner for his co-discovery of DNA; and European Institute of Health and Medical Sciences, Surrey University where he received an MSc with a specialist area of research in psychoneuroimmunology in the clinical practice.

Dr. Downing was invited to read for a Ph.D at Oxford’s leading research institute, Sir William Dunn School of Pathology but decided on a clinical career instead. He is one of only two doctors in Europe that have received training at consultant level in diagnosis and treatment of internal medical disorders at the Texas Chiropractic College, USA; and advanced Wilderness medicine.

His specialist fields are neuro-musculoskeletal & functional Medicine (with a focus on fertility, endocrinology, infection and gastro-intestinal problems). He has produced science and clinical reports since February 1993 and medico-legal reports since April 2010 as an expert witness.

He is currently President and Director of Clinical Education for a European organisation that sets standards of clinical proficiency and trains healthcare providers, including medical doctors, chiropractors, osteopaths, physiotherapists, herbalists, homoeopaths, nutritionist, functional medicine doctors and other health disciplines to consultant level.

What is the point in this post, sorry?  It doesn't seem to say anything other than a short bio. 

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14 minutes ago, Roger G Lewis said:

Public Health is a serious question and EMF radiation and health issues is nothing new. Why would 5G be less harmful?

For the sake of argument, let's say that 5g is the same harmful as other radio wave broadcasts.

Everyone has a mobile. Everywhere has wifi. Radio stations have been broadcasting for 100+ years.

There might be a negative effect, but as yet we've not been able to pinpoint an effect onto society.

There's shit loads of other things humans do where we are able to easily pinpoint a negative effect onto society.

On the basis of that i'd say we need more radio wave broadcasts and (say) less holidays in Spain.

Where are you taking your holiday this year? :D 

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I have served alcohol in bars for >20 years.

This year, for the first time ever at a festival I was asked for a receipt for a £90 round by a lady who worked for EE. 

I looked perplexed as I couldn’t believe she was asking (and we were really busy) so she said “you know EE, 5G, one of “your” main sponsors”.

Right, I said. I can’t do you a receipt but you could use your phone to photograph the cocktail menu board with the appropriate number of fingers held up. 

Then I told her I’m with Vodaphone, flicked her the Vees and moved in to the next customer who was giggling hard at the whole conversation. 

Bless. 

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6 minutes ago, darkcamel said:

Dont be a tool dismissing people whose opinion you disagree with as loons. Government ministers, scientists and researchers have all expressed serious concerns about 5G and the lack of testing of the biological effects of it on the population. 

Brussel government, and Geneva and Vaud Switzerland have ALL halted 5G rollout over health concerns after power output from 5g exceeded their safety thresholds. Government ministers have said they would not let their citizens be used as guinea pigs. Dismiss them all as conspiracy theorists if you wish. France has banned all WIFI from nursery schools over health concerns, as radiation penetrates childs skulls more easily. Dismiss them as conspiracy theorists if you will.

There is no scientific consensus as to whether 5G is safe or not. It has NOT been proven beyond any doubt to be safe. Thats why hundreds of scientists have called on the EU to halt 5G rollout until more H&S testing has been done into the biological effects. Many scientific peer reviewed reports have indicated biological and DNA changes as a result of wireless radiation. See the 5G Appeal site, and the AUVA report or the EU Reflex study https://www.jrseco.com/eu-reflex-study-shows-dna-damage-caused-by-radiation-from-wireless-devices-and-mobile-phones/

A quick search to the REFLEX study shows the internet drowning in multiple copies of the same thing on various websites, mostly the same text.  Almost as though the internet has been spammed by it. 

 

The study, from 2004, had this to say (according to this BBC article http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/health/4113989.stm?

 

The scientists behind the study, which has not been published in a journal, said more work was needed to see the actual effect of the phones on health.

But the UK National Radiological Protection Board said people should not be worried by the study's findings.

A spokesman said the study had not shown the biological changes led to disease.

He added that even research looking at the effects of radiowaves on cells and DNA did not consistently find evidence of damage.

 

Not published?  No wonder you can't find anything other than anti-5G text anywhere.  Funny they don't seem to mention the above though.  Weird that. 

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It is the background to a video of a talk given by Dr Graham Downing,
I find Downing a compelling expert lecturer. I do not agree with all of his conclusions for instance I am a programmer in the field of the internet of things? I acknowledge that IOT can be used for security state ends but can also be used for the Circular Economy and Distrbuted direct democracy aims ( my own field of endeavor, particularly on WEB 3 IPFS.)
I am not making any truth claims regarding 5 g or even about the bona-fides of Glastonbury as a much loved institution of the Liberal elites.
I do though think Dr Graham Downing has good intentions and some expertise on these matters as such I pay close attention to what he says, even in my own field IOT , where I have points of disagreement with him.

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Just now, Roger G Lewis said:

It is the background to a video of a talk given by Dr Graham Downing,
I find Downing a compelling expert lecturer. I do not agree with all of his conclusions for instance I am a programmer in the field of the internet of things? I acknowledge that IOT can be used for security state ends but can also be used for the Circular Economy and Distrbuted direct democracy aims ( my own field of endeavor, particularly on WEB 3 IPFS.)
I am not making any truth claims regarding 5 g or even about the bona-fides of Glastonbury as a much loved institution of the Liberal elites.
I do though think Dr Graham Downing has good intentions and some expertise on these matters as such I pay close attention to what he says, even in my own field IOT , where I have points of disagreement with him.

Fair enough.  Does he have published research though, or something like that?  A lecture, although interesting, doesn't allow for review of discussion.

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Hi Early User Name, I do not know if Dr Downing has published papers in this field he has I believe done so in his own clinical fields.
My own interests are limited as is my time to Web 3 development on IPFS and to Monetary reform research, ( Crypto Currencies, Web 3, And so forth , tend to come as a package) .
I live in Sweden , and here there is a much more empirical approach to public health and much of what has got under the low bar in the UK and USA even the EU does not get past the Swedish apparatus , Swedes love statistics and empirical data, it can be a real pain in the Ass but on questions of public house its difficult to fault it, even for an old Hippy Anarchist such as yours truly.


 

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7 minutes ago, EasyUserName said:

Fair enough.  Does he have published research though, or something like that?  A lecture, although interesting, doesn't allow for review of discussion.

https://www.5gexposed.com/sweden/  make of this what you will, I am just about to give it a read my self .

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2 minutes ago, Roger G Lewis said:

Hi Early User Name, I do not know if Dr Downing has published papers in this field he has I believe done so in his own clinical fields.
My own interests are limited as is my time to Web 3 development on IPFS and to Monetary reform research, ( Crypto Currencies, Web 3, And so forth , tend to come as a package) .
I live in Sweden , and here there is a much more empirical approach to public health and much of what has got under the low bar in the UK and USA even the EU does not get past the Swedish apparatus , Swedes love statistics and empirical data, it can be a real pain in the Ass but on questions of public house its difficult to fault it, even for an old Hippy Anarchist such as yours truly.


 

https://www.5gexposed.com/wp-content/uploads/2018/08/201519-recent-research-on-emf-and-health-risk-tenth-report-from-ssms-scientific-council-on-electromagnetic-fields-2015.pdf  same message.

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16 minutes ago, darkcamel said:

Don't be a tool dismissing people whose opinion you disagree with as loons.

I'm not.

I'm dismissing people who've based their opinion on absolute nonsense and who have demonstrated no understanding of the scientific method or how to do research as loons, and I'm providing you with extensive text that explains why as quoted above.

Attempting to pretend I'm doing something else entirely also shows how genuine and trustworthy this argument is.

Eg. You state "Dr Graham Downing" and his qualifications as if we should therefore listen to him.

He's this same Dr Graham Downing who's a lunatic anti-vax nut claiming it causes autism. Very much a quack

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Dr Graham Downing (consultant in Neuro-musculoskeletal & Functional Medicine, graduated from King's College London University), interviewed by Richie Allen: vaccines trigger IL6 and IL17a, which is researched to produce an ASD phenotype. Flu vaccine given to pregnant women produces inflammatory reaction in the foetus. Then vaccines given to babies, cytokines...very detailed but in layman's terms and explains ASD. Really interesting video, only 40 mins - worth watching:

https://t.co/gvbCKoWGUm

 

 

 

 

You're trying to argue that power steering will give us cancer after claiming cars run on gravy and seatbelts are made from unicorn tears harvested by torturing them because this guy with a Dr before his name said so on his Podcast "Dr to the Stars"

And you've been told. But you're carrying on - so why should we trust you?

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