Noel and Fat Boy Slim

[OG]

1 hour ago, Gucci Piggy 2 said:

Right, I've set this account up just to explain the whole situation and clear the air about it, as my actual account was (fairly) banned from posting, and I enjoy being able to still read actual discussion from the other posters on here. If you don't want this account/post to exist, or it's against my banning order, then feel free to delete it, Neil. Don't worry, I'm not planning to continue posting after this, I just wanted to get this out in the open and no one else wanted to post it from their actual account.

The Facebook group chat being spoken about was created in 2015 by a bunch of us on here (mostly us who used to frequent the R&L section as teenagers back in like 2013) who had each other on Twitter etc., and was basically used as a casual group chat to talk about music and stuff outside of this forum. It was often mentioned on here as being a "whacky banter crew" or whatever, but on the whole we still used the forum as usual. I'm saying all this because some people seem to have gotten the impression we set up a Facebook group for the sole purpose of trolling this forum, which isn't the case.

As time went on the chat grew and grew as people who joined knew other people from eFests IRL etc. and it got to the point where there were like 40 people from this forum in there (past and present users), including several serious posters on here who don't troll the forum or anything.

Anyway, some time last year (I guess) it became a thing that some people started making alt accounts to post on here. I cant even remember why this was a thing as they weren't used to troll the forum, they were used to post as normal. This continued for a while and it became a "thing" to make alt accounts using puns based on people's usernames. No harm was meant by this, we were basically just trying to have some fun with plays on people's names (e.g. tentrentalplan after someone started a thread about tent rentals), with plays on dentalplan being the most popular mainly because he's the highest profile user on here, basically. I was involved in this as were many others.

Eventually this spiralled out of control and there was a period where we were making several alt accounts per day and creating troll threads via them (e.g. spoofs of the "How many Janet Jackson songs do you know?" thread), to the extent that is was clearly getting on people's nerves by now. Some people were clearly very irritated by it and so they started being tagged in posts from these troll accounts (that's the only reason you were ever "targeted" btw, @Hugh Jass, not because anyone had a personal problem with you).

There was then the cartoon horse porn thing which, in fairness, everybody other than the person who posted it was baffled by, and we told that person that that wasn't cool.

By now we knew it had gone too far but, as sad it was, we just found it very funny, and probably needed something to make us stop doing it. Eventually Neil messaged myself and told me we needed to stop or there would be consequences. I thought this was fair enough because we had been going too far, so I relayed his message to everybody involved and everybody stopped with the trolling and went back to posting as normal.

Thankfully the whole thing seemed to have blown over until it was accidentally brought up again yesterday (not blaming anyone, it's just the way the conversation went), and people clearly want an explanation/don't know the full story, so I wanted to post this to clear it all up.

For the record, neither @Phoenix Girl nor @Bradders have ever been involved in the Facebook chat or the trolling. I think we may have included Phoenix Girl in a group PM on eFests where we sent out a link to the group chat, after she called me a weapon, but that's it. No idea where Bradders' supposed involvement has come from.

Also @eFestivals based on one of your responses to Fast Drones earlier I'm not sure if you think that account is run by myself? If so, it isn't, it's someone's main account, although I know it has also contributed troll-ish posts the forum on occasion. I know you told me to make sure no one else from the group chat continues to troll the forum either, and everyone has agreed after it was brought up again yesterday that no one wants it to continue.

Whilst I'm I'd like to apologise to Neil and anyone else who was dragged into it and/or annoyed by the whole ordeal. And also thank you to Neil for getting us to stop it so this place could get back to normal (which it hopefully can do once again after this explanation).

Again, apologies if this account/post isn't wanted here, Neil.

Edit: And by the way the fake account lark was much more thinly spread than people seem to think. Each person involved probably made a few accounts and that's it.

Fuck me these youths are our future, we are well and truly fucked ?

[Homer]

2 minutes ago, marathonsteve said:

This is far far far better than Coronation Street

 

[eFestivals]

2 minutes ago, OG said:

Fuck me these youths are our future, we are well and truly fucked ?

the really sad thing is that's not a 'youth' by a long way.

[Sasperella]

4 minutes ago, OG said:

Fuck me these youths are our future, we are well and truly fucked ?

[OG]

1 minute ago, eFestivals said:

the really sad thing is that's not a 'youth' by a long way.

That is sad. I have more faith in my 10 year old son not doing childish things like that. I must say I think you're quite calm not banning the lot of them

[CJTM]

I've hardly been online since Friday - what a mindfck of a thread to backlog. I've thought about hitting up the eFests meet up each year since 2013, and this year I have decided that I am going to.

Can't we just all get on the pints and unite against the common enemy of Dudey Rhino

[jonodillieono]

7 minutes ago, CJTM said:

I've hardly been online since Friday - what a mindfck of a thread to backlog. I've thought about hitting up the eFests meet up each year since 2013, and this year I have decided that I am going to.

Can't we just all get on the pints and unite against the common enemy of Dudey Rhino

See you in the pit old son

[didinowanttohearthat]

46 minutes ago, eFestivals said:

 

Would it not have been easier for all of yesterday you just said you reacted that way because of X as opposed to just being cryptic?

also, it seems mental a paying user of the site would try harm it in anyway but hey ho there’s some strange people out there as the whole fake accounts thing shows 

[bombfrog]

2 hours ago, stuartbert two hats said:

So is Phoenix Girl lying? Is that what you're saying?

Neil keeps alluding to the fact that he has some kind of proof that Phoenix Girl was involved. If he does then he really needs to just prove it. Or, if she wasn't then he needs to apologies.

Right, now, to an outsider (who has donated to eFests in the past and was going to sign up for Gold membership) it just looks like Neil called somebody who supports the site a w*nker. His subequent refusal to provide proof or apologise has lowered my opinion of him hugely.

I'm a huge fan of this site and I've wasted many weeks on it over the years. This seems such a shame.

Edited March 20, 2019 by bombfrog

[CJTM]

5 minutes ago, jonodillieono said:

See you in the pit old son

Brexpit

[eFestivals]

4 minutes ago, didinowanttohearthat said:

Would it not have been easier for all of yesterday you just said you reacted that way because of X as opposed to just being cryptic?

also, it seems mental a paying user of the site would try harm it in anyway but hey ho there’s some strange people out there as the whole fake accounts thing shows 

Looik, you might not like what's gone on, but there's method to my (ha!) madness even if you can't get it - including why I'm not saying much. Nothing has been done just to be an arse.

[Mr.Tease]

1 hour ago, Gucci Piggy 2 said:

Right, I've set this account up just to explain the whole situation and clear the air about it, as my actual account was (fairly) banned from posting, and I enjoy being able to still read actual discussion from the other posters on here. If you don't want this account/post to exist, or it's against my banning order, then feel free to delete it, Neil. Don't worry, I'm not planning to continue posting after this, I just wanted to get this out in the open and no one else wanted to post it from their actual account.

The Facebook group chat being spoken about was created in 2015 by a bunch of us on here (mostly us who used to frequent the R&L section as teenagers back in like 2013) who had each other on Twitter etc., and was basically used as a casual group chat to talk about music and stuff outside of this forum. It was often mentioned on here as being a "whacky banter crew" or whatever, but on the whole we still used the forum as usual. I'm saying all this because some people seem to have gotten the impression we set up a Facebook group for the sole purpose of trolling this forum, which isn't the case.

As time went on the chat grew and grew as people who joined knew other people from eFests IRL etc. and it got to the point where there were like 40 people from this forum in there (past and present users), including several serious posters on here who don't troll the forum or anything.

Anyway, some time last year (I guess) it became a thing that some people started making alt accounts to post on here. I cant even remember why this was a thing as they weren't used to troll the forum, they were used to post as normal. This continued for a while and it became a "thing" to make alt accounts using puns based on people's usernames. No harm was meant by this, we were basically just trying to have some fun with plays on people's names (e.g. tentrentalplan after someone started a thread about tent rentals), with plays on dentalplan being the most popular mainly because he's the highest profile user on here, basically. I was involved in this as were many others.

Eventually this spiralled out of control and there was a period where we were making several alt accounts per day and creating troll threads via them (e.g. spoofs of the "How many Janet Jackson songs do you know?" thread), to the extent that is was clearly getting on people's nerves by now. Some people were clearly very irritated by it and so they started being tagged in posts from these troll accounts (that's the only reason you were ever "targeted" btw, @Hugh Jass, not because anyone had a personal problem with you).

There was then the cartoon horse porn thing which, in fairness, everybody other than the person who posted it was baffled by, and we told that person that that wasn't cool.

By now we knew it had gone too far but, as sad it was, we just found it very funny, and probably needed something to make us stop doing it. Eventually Neil messaged myself and told me we needed to stop or there would be consequences. I thought this was fair enough because we had been going too far, so I relayed his message to everybody involved and everybody stopped with the trolling and went back to posting as normal.

Thankfully the whole thing seemed to have blown over until it was accidentally brought up again yesterday (not blaming anyone, it's just the way the conversation went), and people clearly want an explanation/don't know the full story, so I wanted to post this to clear it all up.

For the record, neither @Phoenix Girl nor @Bradders have ever been involved in the Facebook chat or the trolling. I think we may have included Phoenix Girl in a group PM on eFests where we sent out a link to the group chat, after she called me a weapon, but that's it. No idea where Bradders' supposed involvement has come from.

Also @eFestivals based on one of your responses to Fast Drones earlier I'm not sure if you think that account is run by myself? If so, it isn't, it's someone's main account, although I know it has also contributed troll-ish posts the forum on occasion. I know you told me to make sure no one else from the group chat continues to troll the forum either, and everyone has agreed after it was brought up again yesterday that no one wants it to continue.

Whilst I'm I'd like to apologise to Neil and anyone else who was dragged into it and/or annoyed by the whole ordeal. And also thank you to Neil for getting us to stop it so this place could get back to normal (which it hopefully can do once again after this explanation).

Again, apologies if this account/post isn't wanted here, Neil.

Edit: And by the way the fake account lark was much more thinly spread than people seem to think. Each person involved probably made a few accounts and that's it.

I hope you all find better things to do with your time going forward

[bombfrog]

3 minutes ago, eFestivals said:

Looik, you might not like what's gone on, but there's method to my (ha!) madness even if you can't get it - including why I'm not saying much. Nothing has been done just to be an arse.

If Neil is effectively saying that it wasn't a mistake, he didn't insult Phoenix Girl just because she was included in a group by somebody else and that he has evidence to that effect but has to withhold it for a very good reason then I guess it's just his word over other people's. In that case I'm inclined to believe Neil over everybody else. I don't know him but he's earned that trust over the years by running this place the way he has.

[Tranquility of Solitude]

I’m overly worried about a Fatboy Slim Billy Bragg clash this year.

[marathonsteve]

The e fests meet up this year is going to be a humdinger to be sure.

 

Although I have to admit I have never been.

[Sasperella]

Brexit and eFestivalsTrollingGate really pounding into my thesis writing ability today that's for sure....

[didinowanttohearthat]

23 minutes ago, eFestivals said:

Looik, you might not like what's gone on, but there's method to my (ha!) madness even if you can't get it - including why I'm not saying much. Nothing has been done just to be an arse.

If I got it wrong then I apologise just semeemd like you were wrongfully attacking a paying member but clearly you know something we don’t. Hope you can see why it appeared to be bad from some of our perspective tho 

[Blisterpack]

And here’s me thinking Liam was the controversial brother.....

[kalifire]

2 hours ago, Gucci Piggy 2 said:

stuff

Hopefully you won't take this the wrong way, but... nobody cares. It's really not important. If the oldest among you is early 20's, retrospect might take a while, but the gravity of what's happened is as empty as the offence caused. It'll blow over very quickly even in spite of threads like this one which make it seem like a bigger deal than it is. Some people joined a forum, went infantile for a bit, made arses of themselves and aren't welcome any more. Big deal. 

Life goes on. The sun will still rise. Glastonbury still opens it's gates in June.

Go and enjoy your life, don't be so much of a dick, and all is good. I hope you have an amazing festival.

[Gucci Piggy 2]

15 minutes ago, kalifire said:

Hopefully you won't take this the wrong way, but... nobody cares. It's really not important. If the oldest among you is early 20's, retrospect might take a while, but the gravity of what's happened is as empty as the offence caused. It'll blow over very quickly even in spite of threads like this one which make it seem like a bigger deal than it is. Some people joined a forum, went infantile for a bit, made arses of themselves and aren't welcome any more. Big deal. 

Life goes on. The sun will still rise. Glastonbury still opens it's gates in June.

Go and enjoy your life, don't be so much of a dick, and all is good. I hope you have an amazing festival.

Yeah I know, I only posted it because a load of people were asking what happened and wouldn't let it go.

Cheers. You too.

[Zoo Music Girl]

I appreciated the explanation for what it's worth. Kind of along the lines of what I guessed had happened.

[Supernintendo Chalmers]

Fair play @Gucci Piggy 2 for stepping up and explaining, it's a shame you all felt the need to do it as you used to make a genuine contribution to the threads, as I'm sure did a lot of the others involved. Oh well, case closed.  

[Hugh Jass]

Quick question... are you lot behind JJ?

[Gucci Piggy 2]

9 minutes ago, Hugh Jass said:

Quick question... are you lot behind JJ?

Surprisingly, no. When jj started posting I wasnt even in the Facebook chat and assumed someone in there was behind it. However it turns out everyone in there thought the same. Honestly not a clue who is behind it which makes it all the more baffling. As you have all seen, our trolling attempts are 1000x less funny than jj.

[H.M.V]

Could it be.......... could it be Russy? ? 19,999 posts, right fuck those c**ts.