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18 hours ago, Yoghurt on a Stick said:

The above said, i wouldn't give it to a charity where the CEO earns hundreds of thousands either. It would be grass root level stuff.

Sorry, I've trolled quite a few (usually leave voting) charity posters in the last few years (yes I know it's hard to believe I'm a nob elsewhere too) - their typical view is that everyone who works for a charity should do it for nowt or thereabouts. I believe in the capitalist society we inhabit it's a bit messier, sometimes big charities have lots of both staff and volunteers, generate many millions for their causes and people nearer the top earn more.

I'm not suggesting that they're some sort of corporate dick like Martin Dorrell who believes they're worth several hundred times more than other staff, but isn't it conceivable that the CEO of wateraid may get over a hundred k (as mentioned in this link) either due to their experience at efficiently managing such a giant organisation without it collapsing or potentially opening doors to other fundraising options that could pay for their salary many times over?

https://www.civilsociety.co.uk/news/wateraid-income-rises-by--10m-according-to-most-recent-set-of-accounts.html

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I would pay for this over Glastonbury   

I would march up to the farmhouse and ask how big a donation to Oxfam/WaterAid I need to make in exchange for 6 free tickets and a couple of camper van spaces every year for life. I'd buy a colos

I don't doubt that some of these CEO's have talent. However, they are only running charities worth millions (many many millions in some cases) and with a large staff payroll. However, a lot of them ar

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5 minutes ago, clarkete said:

Sorry, I've trolled quite a few (usually leave voting) charity posters in the last few years (yes I know it's hard to believe I'm a nob elsewhere too) - their typical view is that everyone who works for a charity should do it for nowt or thereabouts. I believe in the capitalist society we inhabit it's a bit messier, sometimes big charities have lots of both staff and volunteers, generate many millions for their causes and people nearer the top earn more.

I'm not suggesting that they're some sort of corporate dick like Martin Dorrell who believes they're worth several hundred times more than other staff, but isn't it conceivable that the CEO of wateraid may get over a hundred k (as mentioned in this link) either due to their experience at efficiently managing such a giant organisation without it collapsing or potentially opening doors to other fundraising options that could pay for their salary many times over?

https://www.civilsociety.co.uk/news/wateraid-income-rises-by--10m-according-to-most-recent-set-of-accounts.html

I don't doubt that some of these CEO's have talent. However, they are only running charities worth millions (many many millions in some cases) and with a large staff payroll. However, a lot of them are paid significantly more than the Prime Minister, who has to deal, at least in billions, but possibly trillions. In addition they ( the various PM's over time) have a workforce (technically speaking) which far excels the numbers in some of these charities.

I used to work for a housing charity for 28 years. It had assets of over £1 billion, had 1200 staff, and many of the various CEO's that I witnessed come and go, couldn't tell their arse from their elbows. They were, essentially, held up by the overall financial good buoyancy of the assets, as opposed to their cutting edge acumen.  And believe me, mine was not the only major housing charity in the West Midlands, at least, that was run by people unfit for the role, but who got paid over the £150K mark (at that time). 

In addition if say you pay a CEO of a charity £150K per year, what actually are the benchmarks used that differentiate them from someone willing to do the same job, with the same skills, for £80K? What governance is used to ensure that corruption, free mason influences, I'll scratch your back if you scratch mine etc, aren't at play? 

Let's choose Oxfam and Haiti as an example of where a CEO was supposed to know and have governance over their staff, but had no idea that the staff were treating human catastrophe as an opportunity for a jolly, complete with payments for sex.

I could go on. And on. I really could, but wont.

I merely stated that it was my preference not to give to charities where the CEO's earned, in my opinion, scandalous amounts of money for the work they do. I stated that I would give my money to grass roots charities, and that is what I would do. 

 

 

 

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2 hours ago, Yoghurt on a Stick said:

I don't doubt that some of these CEO's have talent. However, they are only running charities worth millions (many many millions in some cases) and with a large staff payroll. However, a lot of them are paid significantly more than the Prime Minister, who has to deal, at least in billions, but possibly trillions. In addition they ( the various PM's over time) have a workforce (technically speaking) which far excels the numbers in some of these charities.

I used to work for a housing charity for 28 years. It had assets of over £1 billion, had 1200 staff, and many of the various CEO's that I witnessed come and go, couldn't tell their arse from their elbows. They were, essentially, held up by the overall financial good buoyancy of the assets, as opposed to their cutting edge acumen.  And believe me, mine was not the only major housing charity in the West Midlands, at least, that was run by people unfit for the role, but who got paid over the £150K mark (at that time). 

In addition if say you pay a CEO of a charity £150K per year, what actually are the benchmarks used that differentiate them from someone willing to do the same job, with the same skills, for £80K? What governance is used to ensure that corruption, free mason influences, I'll scratch your back if you scratch mine etc, aren't at play? 

Let's choose Oxfam and Haiti as an example of where a CEO was supposed to know and have governance over their staff, but had no idea that the staff were treating human catastrophe as an opportunity for a jolly, complete with payments for sex.

I could go on. And on. I really could, but wont.

I merely stated that it was my preference not to give to charities where the CEO's earned, in my opinion, scandalous amounts of money for the work they do. I stated that I would give my money to grass roots charities, and that is what I would do. 

 

 

 

Way to suck the fun out of the conversation guys.

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Way to suck the fun out of the conversation guys.

Apologies Hugh Jass, as i never even thought about that.

The above being the case, I retract everything that I have said on this thread. I'd now like it to be known that I'd probably go around the world with my wife and mates, staying in five star hotels, eating at Michelin starred restaurants, taking private jets, buying expensive jewellery, buying expensive powders etc etc. I'd do that for a number of years, and then come back to the UK, and whatever money I had left I'd spend foolishly!

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13 hours ago, Hugh Jass said:

I would march up to the farmhouse and ask how big a donation to Oxfam/WaterAid I need to make in exchange for 6 free tickets and a couple of camper van spaces every year for life.

I'd buy a colossal fuck off camper van too.

Now, you would have to be careful here.... anything over 8 metres and you have to park it in B&W, that wouldnt work...

I have considered this (far too much obviously) and would get me a shiny Hymer B680 (just over 7 metres)...

I told the wife of my plan only last week. "screw that" she said. "We can go glamping nearer the festival and they pick you up in a golf buggy... No more Hill of Death for me..!!" ?

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1 minute ago, BlueDaze said:

Now, you would have to be careful here.... anything over 8 metres and you have to park it in B&W, that wouldnt work...

I have considered this (far too much obviously) and would get me a shiny Hymer B680 (just over 7 metres)...

I told the wife of my plan only last week. "screw that" she said. "We can go glamping nearer the festival and they pick you up in a golf buggy... No more Hill of Death for me..!!" ?

With the money I plan to win I could buy a smaller one just to plonk next to the gate as a rest point.

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5 hours ago, Hugh Jass said:

Way to suck the fun out of the conversation guys.

My fault, sorry. I had a different view to @Yoghurt on a Stickand dragged him down with me. Believe me, if you look at my history it's easy to find the quantity of threads I've killed off and I have both a history and a talent for it ?

If it makes you feel better, I don't even buy lottery tickets, so I'll never get to share these pleasures ?

Tbh I love my attendance as is, lucky enough I can enjoy staying in the CV field these days, which makes it much more bearable in my advancing years. 

As with Yog, once I'd sp*inked it on women, hooch and drugs the rest I'd waste. 

 

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54 minutes ago, Andarve said:

I play the lottery a lot and this is my stable income. But I play the lottery on various online casino services because it's so much more interesting and safe.

Fuck off pal

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1 hour ago, Andarve said:

I play the lottery a lot and this is my stable income. But I play the lottery on various online casino services because it's so much more interesting and safe.

 

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I joined a casino in Birmingham many years ago now. I only went into it once and managed to get myself barred for life from the premises on that occasion. It would appear that they just will not tolerate extraordinarily drunk members demanding that staff bring them cocaine at the blackjack table. It is highly likely that this unusual and evidently unexpected manoeuvre of mine saved me an awful lot of heartache, and money too.

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6 hours ago, Andarve said:

I play the lottery a lot and this is my stable income. But I play the lottery on various online casino services because it's so much more interesting and safe.

fail .... you didnt even provide the link .... I hope you have more success in the online casino world 

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11 minutes ago, Wellyboot said:

I think I'd buy a camper van. I'd love a splitty, bright yellow 💛 

And I'd park it on my drive in my new house in Pilton of course!

That’s it, sounds perfect. In fact I’ve already picked out what house we want. All I would do is knock the door, offer them a ridiculous amount of cash way over the valuation,  and they would probably tell me to feck off ! 

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2 minutes ago, Ayrshire Chris said:

That’s it, sounds perfect. In fact I’ve already picked out what house we want. All I would do is knock the door, offer them a ridiculous amount of cash way over the valuation,  and they would probably tell me to feck off ! 

Michaels house is not for sale .... ever :) and neither is the farm :) 

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13 minutes ago, deebeedoobee said:

Man cave and sauna. He can take his pick

Dee, if I win the lottery and I don’t get first dibs if you sell your house then you need to adopt me. And my wife. And the kids. Or let us live in a camper van on your drive, like some sort of Alan Bennet / Miss Shepherd type situation. 

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