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Cor, £70 price hike on last year 

Few titbits from my friend tonight at the big moon gig  No news on NiN or arcade fire. Arcade fire still not decided if they are touring next year. NIN are mulling over festivals or their own gig

Morrissey's views, as repugnant as some are, are not really that outside what a lot of people think. That it is affecting him booking shows seems sad, he's not done anything illegal. A lot of pearl cl

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3 minutes ago, xxialac said:

The Avalanches were a mess last time they played Vic Park. Hope they sort themselves out for this one. Heard great things about TOPS!

TOPS’ catalogue is slightly patchy, but their first and most recent albums are both excellent. 

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2 minutes ago, xxialac said:

APE calling this INDIE EXCELLENCE is an insult to REM, Pixies, The Cure, Radiohead, Nirvana etc. Woeful.

 

They're hardly going to call their own lineup that they're trying to sell tickets for INDIE MEDIOCRITY are they 

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1 minute ago, DarthSaul said:

They're hardly going to call their own lineup that they're trying to sell tickets for INDIE MEDIOCRITY are they 

They could market it in a different way that doesn't open themselves up to mockery e.g. the broader festival experience, band revival aspect, rather than positioning these bands as among the best the indie scene has produced.

 

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Just now, xxialac said:

They could market it in a different way that doesn't open themselves up to mockery e.g. the broader festival experience, band revival aspect, rather than positioning these bands as among the best the indie scene has produced.

 

Think you might be over thinking it.

 

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I don't see what all the fuss is about booking the Kooks. APE have booked another headliner who had released their best material years ago. Massive & Kraftwerk are in the same boat other then their work is deemed to be more worthy, credible, arty & groundbreaking but its still just some old bands playing old music. (I like Massive Attack & Kraftwerk by the way) but I don't like music snobbery.

I can't see why people are that bothered by a festival they don't want to buy tickets for booking bands they don't like. If you wanted APE to be more leftfield/edgy etc then maybe you should have bought more tickets to those days in the past.

As others have stated, I can't see how this day will sell any less then the other days. It might not be standard APE fair or what a lot of its regulars normally go for but APE is a business and if they think this will sell then why not book those bands. I am fairly sure it will do better then BMTH & Christina. 

I would imagine APE's goals for this year is to make a bit of money and knock most if not all the promotions on the head. It's one thing to give some tickets to sponsors/worthy causes and to locals to keep them on side. However, to do whole scale discounting like last year and get to the stage where even people who like your booking policy don't want to buy your tickets is a little stupid.

For those who are horrified by the Kooks & Wombats, I would suggest you don't go. If you want to keep the festival your own little precious full of curious acts then actually buy tickets for Massive & Kraftwerk and don't just hold out for offers. Because, if the Kooks sell well and the others don't then I think you all know what will happen next year.

The thing with most APE lineups is that you can see almost all of those people at London venues anyway headlining the like of the Roundhouse and generally fare cheaper then APE tickets.

The biggest issue for me with the Kooks is likely to be the tickets price. Chances are it will be double the price of seeing them last year at Community. I am not sure how they will convince people to day so much more for a day that when the under card is added may look like Community but for twice the price.

Whether to go or not is not an issue for me as I am off to see Guns n Roses that day. I am curious to see who will play the 31st as I think the Kooks booking has thrown open the doors to almost anyone. Secretly hoping its Gerry so this place will go in to meltdown. That would be a nice mixed weekend for me. Already have Kwaftwerk, GNR tickets booked and so just waiting on that last Sunday to see how eclectic I can make that weekend.

Sorry for rambling, I did not really notice how much I had typed but one final comment.

Why did they wait so long to announce the Kooks & Wombats?

 

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Just now, Dales said:

I don't see what all the fuss is about booking the Kooks. APE have booked another headliner who had released their best material years ago. Massive & Kraftwerk are in the same boat other then their work is deemed to be more worthy, credible, arty & groundbreaking but its still just some old bands playing old music. (I like Massive Attack & Kraftwerk by the way) but I don't like music snobbery.

There was probably 5 people wanting The Kooks to start playing music again, and about 1,000 people wanting to here Naive live 

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2 minutes ago, Dales said:

 

The biggest issue for me with the Kooks is likely to be the tickets price. Chances are it will be double the price of seeing them last year at Community. I am not sure how they will convince people to day so much more for a day that when the under card is added may look like Community but for twice the price.

 

It has already been stated above that the Kooks and Wombats day is around £45 which isnt bad 

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£45 ain't awful for that given that's just a bit more than community. Undercard probably needs a few more decent names when it gets padded out but it'll probably sell an okay amount of tickets. Not an inspirational lineup by any means and naturally lots of people here won't be interested in the slightest but not every lineup is going to be to your taste (just remember, as much as it might piss you off, there are gonna be a load of people who see this, look at the other days announced and think 'who the hell are massive attack?') 

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Just now, atomised said:

It has already been stated above that the Kooks and Wombats day is around £45 which isnt bad 

I am at work and started typing ages ago and got side tracked and had to deal with work 🙂and just hit submit after loads of other people had posted. So, I did not see the additional names added or the price. At £45 that's a decent lineup with Tom Walker thrown in as well. I live in Hackney and about 5% of the population model their look on him.

I know it is not a lineup that will go down well on here but at that price I think it will find a market and that's pretty much all a promoter will be interested in.

 

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