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I see Two Door Cinema Club are teasing something to do with their debut being 10 years old, teasing 1st March which falls on a Tuesday. With them being billed as Special Guests on the Reading line up I think this could be a goer...

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19 hours ago, jannybruck said:

I'd be genuinely shocked if Lana didn't play. She's doing Primavera and other EU fests right after APE is done and has nothing on for the second half of May.

Would be strange for Glasto to make a rare (for them) claim to an exclusive if it's not the case.

19 hours ago, John L said:

Vampire Weekend could play the first weekend but I don’t think they are big enough to headline a day?

I'd say they definitely are.

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Will Massive Attack be doing the Mezzanine tour or the hits? Nonetheless it won’t sell out so I’ll get for cheap. 

On a separate note what are APE doing? They need to get a crack on. 

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55 minutes ago, RarerThanDandyB said:

Will Massive Attack be doing the Mezzanine tour or the hits? Nonetheless it won’t sell out so I’ll get for cheap. 

On a separate note what are APE doing? They need to get a crack on. 

General consensus seems to be the former. 

And nothing very sensible, not least if The Kooks are headlining... 

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1 hour ago, RarerThanDandyB said:

Will Massive Attack be doing the Mezzanine tour or the hits? Nonetheless it won’t sell out so I’ll get for cheap. 

On a separate note what are APE doing? They need to get a crack on. 

 

13 minutes ago, stereodista said:

General consensus seems to be the former. 

And nothing very sensible, not least if The Kooks are headlining... 

Pretty sure it’ll just be a regular MA set as the Mezzanine tour is over and their upcoming shows haven’t been advertised as Mezzanine shows. 

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20 minutes ago, stereodista said:

General consensus seems to be the former. 

You're not reading the general consensus the way I am... Normal Massive Attack set is highly likely, and i'd put good money on it being that way.

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7 hours ago, gfa said:

I don’t see the problem with Kooks, while its not the most exciting booking its cheap and will sell better than BMTH and Christine. Also their Community day was the busiest one yet it seemed to me and they have a pretty wide audience.

Will it fuck.

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3 hours ago, Brave Sir Robin said:

Would be strange for Glasto to make a rare (for them) claim to an exclusive if it's not the case.

I'd say they definitely are.

Has anyone else wondered about All Points East and Glastonbury having some competition/conflict?

Goldenvoice, the company behind APE, is infamous for highly restrictive radius clauses acts are forced to sign to play their festivals as well as aggressive, anti-competitive behavior towards festivals in the new markets they enter. I believe this behavior is tolerated because of their large paychecks. 

When the first APE happened in London I was blown away by the lineup but noted that it happened on the Glasto fallow year, and I believe that was on purpose. 

Glastonbury is in a very special position in the music industry, and I think a U.S. company coming in and trying to muscle away acts with large paychecks... I think all Glasto would have to do is make the slightest peep for the whole country to get outraged at GoldenVoice... 

And this is all complete bullshit/internet conjecture, but I wonder if the Glasto LDR announcement (and calling it an "exclusive") plus APE's trouble announcing their full lineup in a timely manner relates to this wildly hypothetical story I've had running in my head since that first APE... 

here are 2 links for context to my statements about GoldenVoice

Their terrible radius clauses - https://www.spin.com/2018/04/coachella-radius-clause-lawsuit/

GoldenVoice trying to muscle smaller festivals - https://www.stereogum.com/1854338/all-points-east-what-the-hell-is-going-on-with-panorama-governors-ball-the-battle-for-new-york-city/franchises/sounding-board/

(Governors Ball was able to survive and even chase out GoldenVoice in the end, but 4 months after this article they sold their formerly independently run company to LiveNation, which is probably the only reason they were able to win)

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10 minutes ago, GrumpyRaver said:

You're not reading the general consensus the way I am... Normal Massive Attack set is highly likely, and i'd put good money on it being that way.

Sorry, yes, meant latter there. Really struggling to engage the greying matter today!

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6 minutes ago, shaun Mulhern said:

Does anyone reckon Tame Impala will sell out?

I'd be surprised if any of it sold out tbh...

Ticketmaster offer for kraftwerk day: you can buy a ticket and get a free ticket for the design museum electronic music exhibition from May

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1 minute ago, zahidf said:

I'd be surprised if any of it sold out tbh...

Ticketmaster offer for kraftwerk day: you can buy a ticket and get a free ticket for the design museum electronic music exhibition from May

Yeah I see just cause I'm waiting for the full headliners before booking tickets, at the moment Tame Impala looks good just wondered if they would sell out that's all 

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6 hours ago, Callum_96 said:

I see Two Door Cinema Club are teasing something to do with their debut being 10 years old, teasing 1st March which falls on a Tuesday. With them being billed as Special Guests on the Reading line up I think this could be a goer...

That potentially could be something to keep an eye on.

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51 minutes ago, jr1312 said:

Depends if it's just them or a double headliner...

Hmm. So your point is that if you improve the quality of a lineup, it will sell better?

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4 hours ago, assorted said:

Has anyone else wondered about All Points East and Glastonbury having some competition/conflict?

Goldenvoice, the company behind APE, is infamous for highly restrictive radius clauses acts are forced to sign to play their festivals as well as aggressive, anti-competitive behavior towards festivals in the new markets they enter. I believe this behavior is tolerated because of their large paychecks. 

When the first APE happened in London I was blown away by the lineup but noted that it happened on the Glasto fallow year, and I believe that was on purpose. 

Glastonbury is in a very special position in the music industry, and I think a U.S. company coming in and trying to muscle away acts with large paychecks... I think all Glasto would have to do is make the slightest peep for the whole country to get outraged at GoldenVoice... 

And this is all complete bullshit/internet conjecture, but I wonder if the Glasto LDR announcement (and calling it an "exclusive") plus APE's trouble announcing their full lineup in a timely manner relates to this wildly hypothetical story I've had running in my head since that first APE... 

here are 2 links for context to my statements about GoldenVoice

Their terrible radius clauses - https://www.spin.com/2018/04/coachella-radius-clause-lawsuit/

GoldenVoice trying to muscle smaller festivals - https://www.stereogum.com/1854338/all-points-east-what-the-hell-is-going-on-with-panorama-governors-ball-the-battle-for-new-york-city/franchises/sounding-board/

(Governors Ball was able to survive and even chase out GoldenVoice in the end, but 4 months after this article they sold their formerly independently run company to LiveNation, which is probably the only reason they were able to win)

I don't think 2019 was significantly weaker than 2018 anyway, but a lot of the 2019 artists ended up at Glasto anyway - Chems, BMTH, Christine, all headlined then played Glasto and then artists like Hot Chip, Interpol, Jon Hopkins, Johnny Marr, Kurt Vile, Mac DeMarco etc who played both.

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1 hour ago, VanderlyleTea said:


Any possibility of the following being here? Not all of them as headliners but they are around atm... 

Vampire Weekend

Editors

Pixies

Maggie Rogers

Elbow

Foals

Pixies already announced for BST, so they’re out.

Foals are playing three nights at Olympia the same month, so they’re also out. 

Would question whether any of the others are big enough to headline, but then again, who else can they get to fill three nights with a touch over three months to go?!

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13 hours ago, assorted said:

Has anyone else wondered about All Points East and Glastonbury having some competition/conflict?

Goldenvoice, the company behind APE, is infamous for highly restrictive radius clauses acts are forced to sign to play their festivals as well as aggressive, anti-competitive behavior towards festivals in the new markets they enter. I believe this behavior is tolerated because of their large paychecks. 

When the first APE happened in London I was blown away by the lineup but noted that it happened on the Glasto fallow year, and I believe that was on purpose. 

Glastonbury is in a very special position in the music industry, and I think a U.S. company coming in and trying to muscle away acts with large paychecks... I think all Glasto would have to do is make the slightest peep for the whole country to get outraged at GoldenVoice... 

And this is all complete bullshit/internet conjecture, but I wonder if the Glasto LDR announcement (and calling it an "exclusive") plus APE's trouble announcing their full lineup in a timely manner relates to this wildly hypothetical story I've had running in my head since that first APE... 

here are 2 links for context to my statements about GoldenVoice

Their terrible radius clauses - https://www.spin.com/2018/04/coachella-radius-clause-lawsuit/

GoldenVoice trying to muscle smaller festivals - https://www.stereogum.com/1854338/all-points-east-what-the-hell-is-going-on-with-panorama-governors-ball-the-battle-for-new-york-city/franchises/sounding-board/

(Governors Ball was able to survive and even chase out GoldenVoice in the end, but 4 months after this article they sold their formerly independently run company to LiveNation, which is probably the only reason they were able to win)

Bring me the horizon in 2019 when they got announced for ape when it was a UK execisee but they also performed at Glastonbury which makes ape not a UK execisee

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49 minutes ago, stereodista said:

Pixies already announced for BST, so they’re out.

Foals are playing three nights at Olympia the same month, so they’re also out. 

Would question whether any of the others are big enough to headline, but then again, who else can they get to fill three nights with a touch over three months to go?!

Unless there has been a cancellation (and NIN might have been one albeit some time ago) there is no way they are looking for headline acts now.

They have their names.

Either there are other gigs that have to sell out first before they can announce them (eg Lana)or they are unable to announce until a wider tour is announced (eg Moby) or they are trying to bolster the support before announcing (eg Two Door CC)

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1 hour ago, stereodista said:

Pixies already announced for BST, so they’re out.

Foals are playing three nights at Olympia the same month, so they’re also out. 

Would question whether any of the others are big enough to headline, but then again, who else can they get to fill three nights with a touch over three months to go?!

I wasn’t suggesting that all of those could headline but Vampire Weekend definitely could. Elbow too. 

I forgot about Pixies and yeah I guess that rules Foals out too.

Unless they really have a surprise up their sleeve, like most have already said, they are running out of options. At least options that would sell well.

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Vampire Weekend certainly could, I’m still thinking maybe Wolf Alice myself 

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