jj200 Posted February 15, 2020 Report Share Posted February 15, 2020 13 hours ago, assorted said: Has anyone else wondered about All Points East and Glastonbury having some competition/conflict? Goldenvoice, the company behind APE, is infamous for highly restrictive radius clauses acts are forced to sign to play their festivals as well as aggressive, anti-competitive behavior towards festivals in the new markets they enter. I believe this behavior is tolerated because of their large paychecks. When the first APE happened in London I was blown away by the lineup but noted that it happened on the Glasto fallow year, and I believe that was on purpose. Glastonbury is in a very special position in the music industry, and I think a U.S. company coming in and trying to muscle away acts with large paychecks... I think all Glasto would have to do is make the slightest peep for the whole country to get outraged at GoldenVoice... And this is all complete bullshit/internet conjecture, but I wonder if the Glasto LDR announcement (and calling it an "exclusive") plus APE's trouble announcing their full lineup in a timely manner relates to this wildly hypothetical story I've had running in my head since that first APE... here are 2 links for context to my statements about GoldenVoice Their terrible radius clauses - https://www.spin.com/2018/04/coachella-radius-clause-lawsuit/ GoldenVoice trying to muscle smaller festivals - https://www.stereogum.com/1854338/all-points-east-what-the-hell-is-going-on-with-panorama-governors-ball-the-battle-for-new-york-city/franchises/sounding-board/ (Governors Ball was able to survive and even chase out GoldenVoice in the end, but 4 months after this article they sold their formerly independently run company to LiveNation, which is probably the only reason they were able to win) Bring me the horizon in 2019 when they got announced for ape when it was a UK execisee but they also performed at Glastonbury which makes ape not a UK execisee Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
xxialac Posted February 15, 2020 Report Share Posted February 15, 2020 49 minutes ago, stereodista said: Pixies already announced for BST, so they’re out. Foals are playing three nights at Olympia the same month, so they’re also out. Would question whether any of the others are big enough to headline, but then again, who else can they get to fill three nights with a touch over three months to go?! Unless there has been a cancellation (and NIN might have been one albeit some time ago) there is no way they are looking for headline acts now. They have their names. Either there are other gigs that have to sell out first before they can announce them (eg Lana)or they are unable to announce until a wider tour is announced (eg Moby) or they are trying to bolster the support before announcing (eg Two Door CC) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VanderlyleTea Posted February 15, 2020 Report Share Posted February 15, 2020 1 hour ago, stereodista said: Pixies already announced for BST, so they’re out. Foals are playing three nights at Olympia the same month, so they’re also out. Would question whether any of the others are big enough to headline, but then again, who else can they get to fill three nights with a touch over three months to go?! I wasn’t suggesting that all of those could headline but Vampire Weekend definitely could. Elbow too. I forgot about Pixies and yeah I guess that rules Foals out too. Unless they really have a surprise up their sleeve, like most have already said, they are running out of options. At least options that would sell well. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sisco Posted February 15, 2020 Report Share Posted February 15, 2020 Vampire Weekend certainly could, I’m still thinking maybe Wolf Alice myself Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GrumpyRaver Posted February 15, 2020 Report Share Posted February 15, 2020 11 hours ago, fraybentos1 said: It would take almost nothing to sell better. Particularly the BMTH day. It would take something more than The Kooks. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stocky3000 Posted February 15, 2020 Report Share Posted February 15, 2020 10 hours ago, RarerThanDandyB said: It starts... How do you do this with the no purchase necessary option? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John L Posted February 15, 2020 Report Share Posted February 15, 2020 Suede are playing a show in Ireland in late May so they could appear high up the bill somewhere. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DomDom1984 Posted February 15, 2020 Report Share Posted February 15, 2020 Is this beyond the reach of Placebo? They seem quite active over the summer Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jump Posted February 15, 2020 Report Share Posted February 15, 2020 1 minute ago, DomDom1984 said: Is this beyond the reach of Placebo? They seem quite active over the summer I suggested that earlier in the thread when the topic of a possible NIN like British band was rumoured to be taking their place since there’s some crossover between the two. As a headliner it seems unlikely but they are one of those bands that always do well on the undercard of a festival. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scatteredscreens Posted February 15, 2020 Report Share Posted February 15, 2020 11 hours ago, RarerThanDandyB said: It starts... Link? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RUMINE Posted February 15, 2020 Report Share Posted February 15, 2020 13 minutes ago, James96 said: Link? https://zaphod.vvhp.net/vvreg/14634-703613.html?t=1581675075 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fraybentos1 Posted February 15, 2020 Report Share Posted February 15, 2020 1 hour ago, GrumpyRaver said: It would take something more than The Kooks. It genuinely wouldn't. Think you're underestimating how little BMTH sold. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
xxialac Posted February 15, 2020 Report Share Posted February 15, 2020 11 hours ago, RarerThanDandyB said: It starts... Breaking News: Music festival in promotional pair of tickets giveaway competition. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DomDom1984 Posted February 15, 2020 Report Share Posted February 15, 2020 This seems like an album promotion stunt more than anything else. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jannybruck Posted February 15, 2020 Report Share Posted February 15, 2020 Yeah, I don't think the Tame show will struggle to sell tickets. That just looks like album promo to me. Placebo could be a really good shout – they have a really solid and dedicated fanbase, last tour was arenas a couple of years ago, no UK festivals booked. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
xxialac Posted February 15, 2020 Report Share Posted February 15, 2020 1 minute ago, jannybruck said: Yeah, I don't think the Tame show will struggle to sell tickets. That just looks like album promo to me. Placebo could be a really good shout – they have a really solid and dedicated fanbase, last tour was arenas a couple of years ago, no UK festivals booked. I agree. I don't think they are big enough to headline though. Maybe if paired with another similar sized act. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mcbatesman Posted February 15, 2020 Report Share Posted February 15, 2020 So is there definitely going to be free/cheap tickets again this year or people just assuming? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
atomised Posted February 15, 2020 Report Share Posted February 15, 2020 18 minutes ago, Mcbatesman said: So is there definitely going to be free/cheap tickets again this year or people just assuming? It's just an assumption currently Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
xxialac Posted February 15, 2020 Report Share Posted February 15, 2020 23 minutes ago, Mcbatesman said: So is there definitely going to be free/cheap tickets again this year or people just assuming? I would guess yes for the MA and Kraftwerk days. I think the pressure to fill the venue is greater than the pressure not to look desperate. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GrumpyRaver Posted February 15, 2020 Report Share Posted February 15, 2020 2 hours ago, fraybentos1 said: It genuinely wouldn't. Think you're underestimating how little BMTH sold. I’m really not. I think you’re underestimating how utterly irrelevant The Kooks are. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JimiC999 Posted February 15, 2020 Report Share Posted February 15, 2020 9 minutes ago, GrumpyRaver said: I’m really not. I think you’re underestimating how utterly irrelevant The Kooks are. Sorry, who? 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GrumpyRaver Posted February 15, 2020 Report Share Posted February 15, 2020 (edited) 33 minutes ago, JimiC999 said: Sorry, who? Exactly. Edited February 15, 2020 by GrumpyRaver 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mahoneypepe Posted February 15, 2020 Report Share Posted February 15, 2020 New Order, Placebo, Twilight Sad Lana Del Rey Two Door Cinema Club, Bloc Party, Franz Ferdinand Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mcbatesman Posted February 15, 2020 Report Share Posted February 15, 2020 39 minutes ago, mahoneypepe said: New Order, Placebo, Twilight Sad Lana Del Rey Two Door Cinema Club, Bloc Party, Franz Ferdinand Kele said no bloc party for a while now Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VanderlyleTea Posted February 15, 2020 Report Share Posted February 15, 2020 (edited) Vampire Weekend, Editors, Maggie Rogers TDCC, The Kooks - Co headline sort of thing? Gorillaz? Is this possible? Edited February 15, 2020 by VanderlyleTea Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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