xxialac Posted December 19, 2019 Report Share Posted December 19, 2019 49 minutes ago, JHad said: Looks like they were just trailing the 2019 video. The email for it says see you in 2020, so I'd read that as probably being it for now. It makes zero commercial sense for them to make an announcement now. They won't make an announcement. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
charlierc Posted December 19, 2019 Report Share Posted December 19, 2019 18 hours ago, xxialac said: It makes zero commercial sense for them to make an announcement now. They won't make an announcement. I thought there would be one big announcement before Christmas by somebody somewhere but obviously not. I recall back in 2017 that quite a lot of things were announced in January - that's when I got my tickets to The Killers at BST Hyde Park, and when U2 announced the Twickenham Joshua Tree gigs - but I'm not sure there'll be much until later to the end of the month... right? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gilgamesh69 Posted December 19, 2019 Report Share Posted December 19, 2019 Didn't we have 4 headliners announced by the end of last year? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JSmurphy Posted December 20, 2019 Report Share Posted December 20, 2019 Right lets get King Giz on the Tame Impala day then. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dales Posted December 20, 2019 Report Share Posted December 20, 2019 Surely, it would have made sense for APE to have released some more names by now? I can't be the only person with a wide taste in music who bought Kraftwerk tickets but then had the dilemma that Guns N Roses announced a gig on that day. I was fairly confident that GNR would add another date as the days between shows on the tour pointed to a second date being announced. So, I got my GNR tickets for saturday. So dilemma solved I get to see both Kwafwerk/Iggy & GNR. I was a little worried that they might not as I did not expect to get much on a re-sale of the Kraftwerk tickets if I chose to go with GNR. It was Iggy that made me hold out praying for a second GNR date. If APE had announced the saturday before I knew about GNR they may have got a second set of tickets out of me if they had announced another big act such as Arcade Fire. Last year, I had already bought Muse tickets before they announced Mumford & Sons. No dilemma that day as hands down Muse trumps Mumford 🙂 For what its worth, I think the GNR dates will batter sales of APE tickets as they get a big cross section of fans including those in to more alternative/festival style acts. GNR will pull potential customers away from APE in the way that other big rock acts might not. I think they could have sold a few extra tickets if they had released the May 30th headliner before GNR. For a festival that has struggled a little to shift tickets in the past it is a little naive to not get your tickets out before a heavy weight like GNR announces. Surely the smart thing would have been to announce Kwarfwerk/Iggy first before Tame Impala. There is almost saturation now with the amount of outdoor gigs/festivals to choose from. APE may well find by the time they have announced all there headliners a lot of people will have already spent their gig budget or already purchased alternative events. Get in early and get that money in your tills before people get choosy about which concerts to add to their summer itinerary. The 2 GNR gigs at Tottenham and the 2 Killers At arsenal a week later will pull cash out of a lot of pockets. Those tickets are not cheap. One set of either Guns N Roses or Killers Tickets each cost almost as much as a 4 Day Mad Cool Ticket. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dentalplan Posted December 20, 2019 Report Share Posted December 20, 2019 Most people off to see GNR probably don’t know what All Points East is. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
xxialac Posted December 20, 2019 Report Share Posted December 20, 2019 1 hour ago, dentalplan said: Most people off to see GNR probably don’t know what All Points East is. 100% this. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dales Posted December 20, 2019 Report Share Posted December 20, 2019 Not sure why you think GNR fans would not go to APE events and maybe a lot would not especially the younger crowd. But, I live and work in Hackney and know lots of people who have attended APE days over the 2 years. The good or bad thing about APE is that as yet it does not have a fully defined music policy. I want APE to do well, its in walking distance from me and I like the fact it books a variety of acts but for some reason it does not sell as well as maybe it should do. I dont know why that is but I know GNR/Muse fans who have bought APE tickets before. For what its worth most went to Nick Cave, The Strokes & Chemicals and they paid for the tickets. As a local, I know a lot of tickets get handed out free. GNR will not draw away the young cool kids to see some old rockers who have not had a record out in donkeys years. However, older music fans with lots of cash to spend may give APE a miss on the GNR days and for a new festival that can not be good unless image and cool crowd is everything. I guess when I see Kwarfwerk/Iggy i will get an idea if sales have been effected on that day as I know what the crowd sizes for many of the previous APE fridayhave been I went to Bring Me the Horizon (Freebies, rude not to) and I 100% agree I can not see many who attended on that day missing out on BMTH or IDLES to see GNR. I must admit I did feel old on that day Maybe, I am not the kind of older punter APE want. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
daviddaviddaviddavid Posted December 22, 2019 Report Share Posted December 22, 2019 There was a nine inch nails post saying tour plans in 2020 on an Instagram story. Would absolutely love a Nine Inch Nails headline day. If the volumes were turned up. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
xxialac Posted December 22, 2019 Report Share Posted December 22, 2019 16 minutes ago, daviddaviddaviddavid said: There was a nine inch nails post saying tour plans in 2020 on an Instagram story. Would absolutely love a Nine Inch Nails headline day. If the volumes were turned up. Yeah it’s now taking place much much later in the year so they’re out. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
daviddaviddaviddavid Posted December 22, 2019 Report Share Posted December 22, 2019 Real shame, so good live. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
roughbloke Posted December 22, 2019 Report Share Posted December 22, 2019 massive attack. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dentalplan Posted December 22, 2019 Report Share Posted December 22, 2019 2 hours ago, endswithMJ said: massive attack. Are you hearing that, or just saying it? Makes sense either way. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
iFirework Posted December 22, 2019 Report Share Posted December 22, 2019 Frank Ocean? If the Coachella rumours are true and I feel this would be the only perfect festival for him. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gilgamesh69 Posted December 22, 2019 Report Share Posted December 22, 2019 4 hours ago, endswithMJ said: massive attack. Get them to bring Young Fathers along but with a higher slot this time Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt42 Posted December 22, 2019 Report Share Posted December 22, 2019 Hmm, Tame Impala, Massive Attack, Kraftwerk are not exactly ginormous ticket sellers so far. Is All Points East doomed to bad ticket sales? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dentalplan Posted December 22, 2019 Report Share Posted December 22, 2019 53 minutes ago, Gilgamesh69 said: Get them to bring Young Fathers along but with a higher slot this time At Hyde Park they played during the same set didn’t they? They can’t get any higher a slot. 1 minute ago, Matt42 said: Hmm, Tame Impala, Massive Attack, Kraftwerk are not exactly ginormous ticket sellers so far. Is All Points East doomed to bad ticket sales? Picked the wrong festival if you want massive headline acts over rock solid bills. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jannybruck Posted December 22, 2019 Report Share Posted December 22, 2019 Have doubts they'd book Massive Attack unless it was with a killer undercard. Their BST Hyde Park show sold really poorly, they wrapped up an arena tour this summer, and there's no sign of a new album on the horizon. They're active next summer but it just seems like a risk. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guy Incognito Posted December 22, 2019 Report Share Posted December 22, 2019 1 minute ago, Matt42 said: Hmm, Tame Impala, Massive Attack, Kraftwerk are not exactly ginormous ticket sellers so far. Is All Points East doomed to bad ticket sales? Most of my lot are holding off buying tickets as we're obviously all assuming that there will be countless cheap/free tickets again. 2019's bad sales have really fucked it for APE I reckon. I'd be very surprised if anyone pulled the trigger now, knowing that there will most likely be hundreds of free tickets closer to the event. Of course this free/discounted ticket thing isnt new. I've been fortunate enough to see both Blur and Kendrick Lamar for less than a tenner each but APE 2019 was definitely the most high profile case. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jannybruck Posted December 22, 2019 Report Share Posted December 22, 2019 (edited) 9 minutes ago, Guy Incognito said: Most of my lot are holding off buying tickets as we're obviously all assuming that there will be countless cheap/free tickets again. 2019's bad sales have really fucked it for APE I reckon. I'd be very surprised if anyone pulled the trigger now, knowing that there will most likely be hundreds of free tickets closer to the event. Of course this free/discounted ticket thing isnt new. I've been fortunate enough to see both Blur and Kendrick Lamar for less than a tenner each but APE 2019 was definitely the most high profile case. BST seem to have pulled it back after they had a few years of freebie tickets, but I don't think these headliners are sufficiently huge or rare enough to have people rushing to book tickets in advance. I think the Tame Impala day will do well because it's an exclusive and they'll be riding the wave of a new album, but having so many people obviously be on freebies last year will put a lot of people paying full price. There's nothing I've seen so far that's making me frantic to grab the credit card. Edited December 22, 2019 by jannybruck Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
R Shah Posted December 22, 2019 Report Share Posted December 22, 2019 Alter Bridge? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt42 Posted December 22, 2019 Report Share Posted December 22, 2019 I think you’re right. Too many people know about it now and it’s caught on. All three of these acts are not do or die purchase options. It’s just a shame because I feel the only thing to save it is to book a big ticket seller which will have tickets flying off the shelves. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dentalplan Posted December 22, 2019 Report Share Posted December 22, 2019 We'll see but I'm seeing it a lot like a free trial of a product. They dished out these tickets via their sponsors to people who may not have initially heard about the festival and they get tens of thousands of people through the gates who might not have normally gone, kind of a hail-mary to raise considerable awareness. It's a risky strategy but it's a multi-million dollar company who can back it up, as they did with BST. People aren't going to stop going to APE because it's no longer free. The other festivals out there aren't really doing much to dissuade the APE audience from going as they move more central. I just don't see it to be in as dire straits as you guys are making it out to be. Tame Impala should sell pretty heavily (anecdotal but I know a bunch of peeps who have bought tickets to that), Kraftwerk I think will do alright, Massive Attack will be more dependent on the lineup but they sold arenas well enough. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
roughbloke Posted December 22, 2019 Report Share Posted December 22, 2019 5 hours ago, dentalplan said: Are you hearing that, or just saying it? Makes sense either way. what i heard Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
the wonderwhy Posted December 22, 2019 Report Share Posted December 22, 2019 I'm not sure most of the general public know about the free ticket thing anyway, or at least remember it. Its only really us obsessives who keep that kinda thing in our head. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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