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2 hours ago, Matt42 said:

I think you’re looking at it the wrong way. They aren’t top priority for Glasto / Reading. They had a window where they could have been given a shot but they have an “always a bridesmaid never a bride” sort of relationship. The likes of Glastonbury always have stronger options than Foals. If they are going to give a smaller act a shot, it will most likely be an act way more mainstream than Foals.

I think as well Reading are probably unsure whether Foals can sell their own day. Which is a valid reservation. They could return to coheadline but I reckon looking at TRNSMT etc R&L now know they can probably get them to sub if they ask nice enough.

Would it be the first time a headliner has ever come back in a non headline position?

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3 hours ago, TKOCF said:

Would it be the first time a headliner has ever come back in a non headline position?

pretty sure Manic Street Preachers have done this 

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3 hours ago, TKOCF said:

Would it be the first time a headliner has ever come back in a non headline position?

Quite a few including Primal Scream, James, Cypress Hill, obviously Manics and strangely Rage in 2000. I’m sure that was some guest spot or something though. 

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5 hours ago, HeyPorter said:

Quite a few including Primal Scream, James, Cypress Hill, obviously Manics and strangely Rage in 2000. I’m sure that was some guest spot or something though. 

RATM playing fourth down in 2000 seems mental to be. Like, had they really fallen off that much by then just four years after headlining, even if it was billed as a special guest slot or whatever? Goes to show that a good disbandment and then reformation a few years down the line can do wonders for your lineup positionings and legacy - I can see why so many acts break up only to come back a couple of years later for that sweet reformation money.

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11 hours ago, Matt42 said:

 If they are going to give a smaller act a shot, it will most likely be an act way more mainstream than Foals.

Interested to hear some artists you mean here? Surely if they are more mainstream they are going to be bigger than Foals anyway?!?!

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13 hours ago, Andre91 said:

Yeah, I think they would have done a secret set this year and then played next year anyway but who knows of all 3 headliners from this year carry over

 

13 hours ago, Andre91 said:

I can’t stand Jamie T but he’s really popular with loads of people my age and slightly under. He’d be a good R1 headliner or third down Main again. 
 

 

I think Biffy have to be one of the headliners lines up for next year anyways even if it was co headline. I also think they would’ve been one of the big secret sets this year

Sorry may I ask how old you are??

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13 hours ago, Matt42 said:

I think you’re looking at it the wrong way. They aren’t top priority for Glasto / Reading. They had a window where they could have been given a shot but they have an “always a bridesmaid never a bride” sort of relationship. The likes of Glastonbury always have stronger options than Foals. If they are going to give a smaller act a shot, it will most likely be an act way more mainstream than Foals.

I think as well Reading are probably unsure whether Foals can sell their own day. Which is a valid reservation. They could return to coheadline but I reckon looking at TRNSMT etc R&L now know they can probably get them to sub if they ask nice enough.

I think as a co headline they would seek quickly, especially in a kinda TØP, Panic situation

Foals and Bring Me would be a good pairing I think 

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Can''t see them losing any of the headliners honestly. Migos is the highest billed artist they could lose I reckon - the others are mostly british touring staples and Rage are set to tour. I would love a completely new lineup though

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1 hour ago, Gerard the Fab said:

 

I think Biffy have to be one of the headliners lines up for next year anyways even if it was co headline. I also think they would’ve been one of the big secret sets this year

Sorry may I ask how old you are??

I’m 27. 

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I’m sure RATM only played fourth down that year because they were splitting and wanted to play. 

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Seeing a lot of people saying arctic monkeys for next year. If the Hillsboro park dates are confirmed will glasto not be much more likely for them? 

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42 minutes ago, AlfieLamb said:

Seeing a lot of people saying arctic monkeys for next year. If the Hillsboro park dates are confirmed will glasto not be much more likely for them? 

Arctic Monkeys are said a lot every year, can't see them coming back though. They have the pulling power to play wherever they want even after releasing an album a lot of people (not me) were disappointing with.

Despite being massive fan, I think I'd rather someone fresh headline and see AM at one of their own shows really.

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Just to further confirm that pulp will never headline reading ever again

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1 hour ago, AlfieLamb said:

Seeing a lot of people saying arctic monkeys for next year. If the Hillsboro park dates are confirmed will glasto not be much more likely for them? 

 

41 minutes ago, theesundayroast said:

Arctic Monkeys are said a lot every year, can't see them coming back though. They have the pulling power to play wherever they want even after releasing an album a lot of people (not me) were disappointing with.

Despite being massive fan, I think I'd rather someone fresh headline and see AM at one of their own shows really.

Obviously no idea what direction AM are gonna take with their new material, but if they're planning on continuing to veer away from their older sound like they did on the last album (whether it be a continuation of that sound or something new entirely) then Reading/Leeds may not be the place for them anymore. Imagine a crowd of eccied up students wanting to go mental to Mardy Bum, only to be hit with -scans TBH&C tracklist- The World's First Ever Monster Truck Front Flip.

Of course they might just go back to another version of the guitar lead indie rock that they're loved for so it may be a non-issue. 

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1 hour ago, theesundayroast said:

Arctic Monkeys are said a lot every year, can't see them coming back though. They have the pulling power to play wherever they want even after releasing an album a lot of people (not me) were disappointing with.

Despite being massive fan, I think I'd rather someone fresh headline and see AM at one of their own shows really.

I’m a big fan, loved TBHC and I’ve never seen them before so I’m kinda the opposite, would love to see them headline a festival (although I feel like they might be more likely to play Glastonbury than Reading next year)

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27 minutes ago, FloorFiller said:

 

Obviously no idea what direction AM are gonna take with their new material, but if they're planning on continuing to veer away from their older sound like they did on the last album (whether it be a continuation of that sound or something new entirely) then Reading/Leeds may not be the place for them anymore. Imagine a crowd of eccied up students wanting to go mental to Mardy Bum, only to be hit with -scans TBH&C tracklist- The World's First Ever Monster Truck Front Flip.

Of course they might just go back to another version of the guitar lead indie rock that they're loved for so it may be a non-issue. 

I understand your point, but there is simply no way I can agree with the bit in bold - their 2nd most recent album AM is absolutely HUGE amongst the younger crowd let alone the older stuff, which the majority regard as their best and rightly so.

Like yeah people would go mental for stuff like Mardy Bum, Fluorescent Adolescent etc. but you forget just how unbelievably big Do I Wanna Know, R U Mine, Dancefloor etc. still are to your average 16-18 year old - irrespective of TBHC or whatever direction their newer stuff may be.

Arctic Monkeys in my opinion are still comfortably the biggest booking R+L could make in terms of the widest appeal and the fastest selling day

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1 minute ago, R Shah said:

I understand your point, but there is simply no way I can agree with the bit in bold - their 2nd most recent album AM is absolutely HUGE amongst the younger crowd let alone the older stuff, which the majority regard as their best and rightly so.

Arctic Monkeys in my opinion are still comfortably the biggest booking R+L could make in terms of the widest appeal and the fastest selling day

Yeah you're absolutely right, and tbh I think their last album's direction was more than likely a one off and they'll go back to the standard lads with guitars formula to keep everybody happy and still comfortably be able to headline R/L on the next one, but if not it may be a harder sell, especially if they decide to cull more and more of their older material from the setlists. They'd certainly be the biggest/most in demand booking the festivals could make, but if their next album is more mid tempo lounge songs then they may decide to play somewhere better suited for that kind of stuff.

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1 minute ago, FloorFiller said:

Yeah you're absolutely right, and tbh I think their last album's direction was more than likely a one off and they'll go back to the standard lads with guitars formula to keep everybody happy and still comfortably be able to headline R/L on the next one, but if not it may be a harder sell, especially if they decide to cull more and more of their older material from the setlists. They'd certainly be the biggest/most in demand booking the festivals could make, but if their next album is more mid tempo lounge songs then they may decide to play somewhere better suited for that kind of stuff.

This is a good point about the band not wanting to play R+L because they want to tour venues more appropriate to their new album's sound (perhaps explaining why they did only 1 outdoor UK show on the TBHC tour).

However, if R+L do manage to book them it'll be a colossal ticket shifter and set - no matter what their new album songs like! I shall be there

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4 hours ago, Andre91 said:

I’m 27. 

Oh blimey right, well I’m 10 years younger than you and it’s completely the same here

 

3 hours ago, AlfieLamb said:

Seeing a lot of people saying arctic monkeys for next year. If the Hillsboro park dates are confirmed will glasto not be much more likely for them? 

lets hope Glasto roll the lineup over 

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1 hour ago, FloorFiller said:

Yeah you're absolutely right, and tbh I think their last album's direction was more than likely a one off and they'll go back to the standard lads with guitars formula to keep everybody happy and still comfortably be able to headline R/L on the next one, but if not it may be a harder sell, especially if they decide to cull more and more of their older material from the setlists. They'd certainly be the biggest/most in demand booking the festivals could make, but if their next album is more mid tempo lounge songs then they may decide to play somewhere better suited for that kind of stuff.

If you watch their TRNSMT gig, songs like 4 Stars out of Five, Star Treatment and One Point Perspective actually seemed to go down really well, especially the first one which they opened with. The crowd sung every word, they also only played 4 from that album, and 5 of AM. Quite honestly no matter what there next album sounds like they will attract a HUGE crowd. 2 hours is enough for them to show off new stuff, Chuck a couple of TBHC songs in and smash out all their old bangers, of which there are so many it’s hard to decided which ones I’d rather seem them play. 
 

on another note, seriously considering getting TBH&C in vinyl because the album is so brilliant 

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Will never happen in a million years but I'm hope Rammestein headline one day purely to see the reaction from the dark fruit/fiat 500 twitter lot😂

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17 minutes ago, syc1818 said:

I mean, aside from the first 2 albums (kind of) they've never kept the same sound on an album 

Who Monkeys?? I think AM is similar but not exactly the same as debut

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I mean from album to album its usually a different sound. AM is much more 'american' and radio friendly than debut 

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22 minutes ago, syc1818 said:

I mean from album to album its usually a different sound. AM is much more 'american' and radio friendly than debut 

That’s true actually, what would you deem SI&S then

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