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I agree that the liverpool penalty should have been given by the rules, but I am not convinced the rules are best for the game. As we head into the VAR era of football I fear the game will evolve into forwards targeting players hands and penalties given that would not previously.  Having played and watched football (badly) over many years, your arms do not stay stuck to your sides at all time. To me the penalty is a disproportionate penalty for the offence. Does anyone else have concerns about where we are moving with handballs?

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10 minutes ago, pink_triangle said:

I agree that the liverpool penalty should have been given by the rules, but I am not convinced the rules are best for the game. As we head into the VAR era of football I fear the game will evolve into forwards targeting players hands and penalties given that would not previously.  Having played and watched football (badly) over many years, your arms do not stay stuck to your sides at all time. To me the penalty is a disproportionate penalty for the offence. Does anyone else have concerns about where we are moving with handballs?

The worry now is that a player can just flick a ball up at the defender hoping it hits an arm to get a pen.

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18 minutes ago, pink_triangle said:

I agree that the liverpool penalty should have been given by the rules, but I am not convinced the rules are best for the game. As we head into the VAR era of football I fear the game will evolve into forwards targeting players hands and penalties given that would not previously.  Having played and watched football (badly) over many years, your arms do not stay stuck to your sides at all time. To me the penalty is a disproportionate penalty for the offence. Does anyone else have concerns about where we are moving with handballs?

I think it'll at least give a consistency that's not there currently.

And for a player to flick a ball at an arm, the arm has to be out of position and stay out of position for that to work - so it shouldn't really happen unless a player is as daft as Spurs matey was the other day.

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2 hours ago, eFestivals said:

I think it'll at least give a consistency that's not there currently.

I'd rather the consistency go the other way.

Having played football all my life, I don't think I've ever intentionally handled the ball - but the ball has hit my hand/arm countless number of times, all completely naturally. At what point did the simple act of the ball touching an arm by mistake become such an advantage for that player? I agree with pink that a penalty is incredibly disproportionate for the vast majority of offences. 

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4 minutes ago, mjsell said:

I'd rather the consistency go the other way.

Having played football all my life, I don't think I've ever intentionally handled the ball - but the ball has hit my hand/arm countless number of times, all completely naturally. At what point did the simple act of the ball touching an arm by mistake become such an advantage for that player? I agree with pink that a penalty is incredibly disproportionate for the vast majority of offences. 

i agree with the last bit - but the offence is handball, not whether it's a handball deserving of a penalty and an arbitrary line is the only realistic way to work it.

The rules on handball have changed many times of the decades. When I was a kid it was all about whether an advantage had been gained (I think the wording might have been about 'controlling the ball'), which meant if it bounced in your favour off your arm it was handball.

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Ole out, Diego in.

Diego Maradona says he should be next Manchester United manager

 

36 minutes ago, santowhir said:

So it sounds like Eriksen is off then confirming that he would like a new challenge. I find it really hard to value him, he's got a year left on his contract and he's 27. He'll be a great asset for someone I'm sure.

Madrid I'd suspect. 

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2 hours ago, santowhir said:

So it sounds like Eriksen is off then confirming that he would like a new challenge. I find it really hard to value him, he's got a year left on his contract and he's 27. He'll be a great asset for someone I'm sure.

A bargain at £30m.

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2 hours ago, Wooderson said:

70k in Madrid last week with no issues. Spurs had 30k there - no issues. Your point?

 

I was just taking the piss. 

There has been problems with Liverpool fans in the past, just like there's been problems with England fans.

Who bloody cares anyway. Anyone that causes trouble is a bellend, regardless of what team they support. 

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30 minutes ago, The Nal said:

Hazard to Madrid then. 90m. 

Probably worth more but what can you do when he's got one year left and could leave on a free next season. He's been great for Chelsea and the Premier League. No ill feelings. We won't be able to reinvest so let's hope that Hudson-Odoi and Pulisic can step up and deliver. Will be very interesting to see who comes in as manager and how the squad looks next season. If Sarri does leave (which looks inevitable now), I am leaning towards Lamps and Jody Morris to be fair. We will need someone who knows the club inside out and knows which youth products / academy grads can step up to the first team squad. 

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42 minutes ago, jyoung said:

Probably worth more but what can you do when he's got one year left and could leave on a free next season. He's been great for Chelsea and the Premier League. No ill feelings. We won't be able to reinvest so let's hope that Hudson-Odoi and Pulisic can step up and deliver. Will be very interesting to see who comes in as manager and how the squad looks next season. If Sarri does leave (which looks inevitable now), I am leaning towards Lamps and Jody Morris to be fair. We will need someone who knows the club inside out and knows which youth products / academy grads can step up to the first team squad. 

Lampard would be a disaster imo. Done nothing to deserve it too - getting Derby to 6th is hardly awe inspiring stuff.

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