Football 18/19

[pink_triangle]

3 hours ago, Dan R said:

Of course they do, but if Klopp had won the league cup in his first season would anyone's opinion of his time as Liverpool boss really have changed?

The fans would have a great memory, so I think yes, an FA cup even more.

[thetime]

1 minute ago, pink_triangle said:

How about spurs?

Good shout. 

 

[WS_Jack_III]

Ashley on Sky sports saying a sale could happen soon. It's like a boycott is planned for the next home game and a transfer window is around the corner.

Looking forward to seeing who is knocking Newcastle out of the 3rd round of the FA cup.

[TheGayTent]

Pretty dull draw unfortunately. 

[pink_triangle]

Leicester at home is a decent draw for Wrexham if they get through. Although if we lose our replay its not a game I would be devastated to miss out on.

[zahidf]

Ha ha ha ha ha

 

[Wooderson]

51 minutes ago, zahidf said:

Ha ha ha ha ha

 

This is *great* banter. It really is.

[JSmurphy]

Martin Solveig hang your head in shame.

What a grotesque and depressing moment that was. 

If you don't know what I'm referring to then brace yourself. 

[WS_Jack_III]

2 hours ago, JSmurphy said:

Martin Solveig hang your head in shame.

What a grotesque and depressing moment that was. 

If you don't know what I'm referring to then brace yourself. 

My first response was "Who?"

 

Just looked it up, oh dear.

[eFestivals]

7 hours ago, JSmurphy said:

Martin Solveig hang your head in shame.

What a grotesque and depressing moment that was. 

If you don't know what I'm referring to then brace yourself. 

'victim' gets it as the joke it was meant as.

Unless we're giving up humour, there's nothing there.

[zahidf]

1 hour ago, eFestivals said:

'victim' gets it as the joke it was meant as.

Unless we're giving up humour, there's nothing there.

Her reaction doesn't seem like she does

That sort of 'banter' is ok for the lads but probably not for women. Not the best way for the first female baloon d'or to go down

[eFestivals]

Just now, zahidf said:

That sort of 'banter' is ok for the lads but probably not for women. Not the best way for the first female baloon d'or to go down

I'm not trying to suggest it was particularly appropriate, but much like the recent 'joke' about vegans, there's different levels of offence that can be taken - and some are being as ridiculous with the offence they're taking as the 'joke' was in the first place.

There's always a butt to a joke - particularly with this one.  

[eFestivals]

5 minutes ago, zahidf said:

Her reaction doesn't seem like she does

she's made comments since. She accepts it was meant as a joke, and that it wasn't sexual harassment.

6 minutes ago, zahidf said:

That sort of 'banter' is ok for the lads but probably not for women.

there's not going to be much banter about blokes twerking, I reckon.  

[jyoung]

No respect. Sad.

[zahidf]

It may not be sexual harassment, but it's clearly a sexist and demeaning joke. 

[eFestivals]

5 minutes ago, zahidf said:

It may not be sexual harassment, but it's clearly a sexist and demeaning joke. 

twerking is by-nature sexist, as it's something done predominately by women ... but, you'know, so is the very thing* she was getting an award for.
(*'women's football', not 'football')

In your take on things what women do cannot be spoken about, and then there's no award where any joke can get made.

It was a feckin' stupid 'joke' to make at professional awards because it trivialises, but that's all it was.

[zahidf]

19 minutes ago, eFestivals said:

twerking is by-nature sexist, as it's something done predominately by women ... but, you'know, so is the very thing* she was getting an award for.
(*'women's football', not 'football')

In your take on things what women do cannot be spoken about, and then there's no award where any joke can get made.

It was a feckin' stupid 'joke' to make at professional awards because it trivialises, but that's all it was.

That's the point. It's an award for football. The twerking was in his own sexist head. 

Or is 'It's all just a bit of banter ' still an excuse for sexism?

[eFestivals]

Just now, zahidf said:

That's the point. It's an award for football. The twerking was in his own sexist head. 

Or is 'It's all just a bit of banter ' still an excuse for sexism?

As I pointed out already, it's not an award for football it's an award for women's football.  If there's sexism in his twerking 'joke', there's no less sexism in the award itself.

[zahidf]

11 minutes ago, eFestivals said:

As I pointed out already, it's not an award for football it's an award for women's football.  If there's sexism in his twerking 'joke', there's no less sexism in the award itself.

It's like saying the best actress awards at the Oscars is sexist!

It's the first female baloon d or. It's clearly a massively sexist and inappropriate comment. No idea why you're trying to minimise it's sexism. 

[eFestivals]

27 minutes ago, zahidf said:

It's like saying the best actress awards at the Oscars is sexist!

if you think it's ridiculous to reference gender where applicable, why are you complaining it's sexist to reference gender where applicable? 'Twerking' is about the same female as best actress.

 

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It's the first female baloon d or. It's clearly a massively sexist and inappropriate comment. No idea why you're trying to minimise it's sexism. 

You'll have to tell me why it's sexist, instead of screaming sexist.

Do bear in mind that we're talking fully within the context of an award that's gender-based just as twerking is gender-based.

Edited December 4, 2018 by eFestivals

[zahidf]

3 minutes ago, eFestivals said:

if you think it's ridiculous to reference gender where applicable, why are you complaining it's sexist to reference gender where applicable? 'Twerking' is about the same female as best actress.

 

You'll have to tell me why it's sexist, instead of screaming sexist.

Do bear in mind that we're talking fully within the context of an award that's gender-based just as twerking is gender-based.

Ermm... It's like saying it's not sexist if he made a joke about her having kids. Are you genuinely saying his comments about twerking isn't sexist?

[zahidf]

 

[eFestivals]

5 minutes ago, zahidf said:

Ermm... It's like saying it's not sexist if he made a joke about her having kids. Are you genuinely saying his comments about twerking isn't sexist?

I asked you to tell me why it is, while remembering that it was said at a gender-based awards.

So please do.

[The Nal]

Griezmann finishing ahead of Messi? Some great booze going round this year during the votes it seems. 

[thetime]

He said an inappropriate joke that fell flat, it’s not the end of the world. Sexual harassment is banded out willy nilly these days.