ThomThomDrum Posted November 15, 2018 Author Report Share Posted November 15, 2018 2 minutes ago, eFestivals said: it won't be, will change the game. Liverpool's goal the other day would never have happened, for example. And thats a problem? If it should not of been a goal then fair enough. VAR if executed properly could actually add to the game IMO. Poor implementation of any new rule/aspect of the game would of course not be a good thing. So its all how they implement it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eFestivals Posted November 15, 2018 Report Share Posted November 15, 2018 9 minutes ago, ThomThomDrum said: And thats a problem? If it should not of been a goal then fair enough. yes, it's a problem. The way the game is currently played won't be how its played in future. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ThomThomDrum Posted November 15, 2018 Author Report Share Posted November 15, 2018 (edited) 5 minutes ago, eFestivals said: yes, it's a problem. The way the game is currently played won't be how its played in future. That may not be a problem. It depends how you view it I suppose. The argument thats mostly touted about the flow of the game is one I dont agree with as long as its implemented well. Football is already a start/stop game. Edited November 15, 2018 by ThomThomDrum Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kaosmark2 Posted November 15, 2018 Report Share Posted November 15, 2018 6 minutes ago, ThomThomDrum said: That may not be a problem. It depends how you view it I suppose. The argument thats mostly touted about the flow of the game is one I dont agree with as long as its implemented well. Football is already a start/stop game. There was a penalty at the world Cup where there were 8 minutes between the incident and the penalty actually being taken. Fuck that noise. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eFestivals Posted November 15, 2018 Report Share Posted November 15, 2018 6 minutes ago, ThomThomDrum said: That may not be a problem. It depends how you view it I suppose. The argument thats mostly touted about the flow of the game is one I dont agree with as long as its implemented well. Football is already a start/stop game. as the world cup got to show, it'll be more of a longer-stop game. I accept that VAR might get a bit faster than it was at the WC, but it'll still definitely slow it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dan R Posted November 15, 2018 Report Share Posted November 15, 2018 25 minutes ago, eFestivals said: as the world cup got to show, it'll be more of a longer-stop game. I accept that VAR might get a bit faster than it was at the WC, but it'll still definitely slow it. It's implemented well in the Bundesliga, and when I've seen it used it's not had a huge impact. My personal issue is the ref going and watching the TV on the side of the pitch. Either accept the VAR suggestion or ignore it. If a professional watching it with a replay isn't sure then it's not clear and obvious and it shouldn't be used. It also needs to be communicated to the crowd at the game better, the Liverpool-West Brom FA cup game where it was used was terrible, everyone was just stood around confused. r Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eFestivals Posted November 15, 2018 Report Share Posted November 15, 2018 6 minutes ago, Dan R said: when I've seen it used it's not had a huge impact. But you don't necessarily see the impact. That goal liverpool scored from a quite free kick after an offside call with the ball in the net would never have happened, so the impact wouldn't be seen. But the game would have lost a fast and thrilling bit of play, and would have been duller for it. (whether or not it was really offside doesn't matter - there would have been a review, and the game would have played out differently as a result). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kaosmark2 Posted November 15, 2018 Report Share Posted November 15, 2018 12 minutes ago, Dan R said: My personal issue is the ref going and watching the TV on the side of the pitch. It's the worst possible way they could have implemented it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jyoung Posted November 15, 2018 Report Share Posted November 15, 2018 Introduce it. The sooner we start getting used to it, as fans, players and refs - the better it will be for everyone. Will it just be for goal stuff? It'll be a farce at first with players calling for it every five mins etc and refs going back and forth but these things take time. It'll get there eventually. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kaosmark2 Posted November 15, 2018 Report Share Posted November 15, 2018 Football is an entertainment industry. The rules not being followed impacts on the entertainment, but 10 minute stoppages for the ref to watch a video repeatedly are far worse. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ThomThomDrum Posted November 15, 2018 Author Report Share Posted November 15, 2018 If the game stops for 10 minute to make a decision then its not being implemented well. The VAR in the WC was desperately inconsistent, shite, and why they decided to do it in the finals and not in the qualifiers beggars belief IMO. No one had a clue what was going on. I did get a sense that the issues seemed to lessen as the tournament went on as folk got used to it, but they really should not have used the finals as such a guinea pig... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kaosmark2 Posted November 15, 2018 Report Share Posted November 15, 2018 Watching replays will always create a delay in the game. Tempo gets talked about a lot, but there's a reason players throw the ball back in quicker, take free kicks and corners in a sensible time frame. It's because getting on with the game is better than looking for perfection. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mjsell Posted November 15, 2018 Report Share Posted November 15, 2018 Watch the NFL and see how they do reviews. Communication of what is happening by mic-ing the refs up, showing it to the crowd, and only reversing decisions when it is clear and obvious. It's not rocket science and the template for how to do it well is right there already - with a few minor adjustments it'll work fine and enhance the game. Get it wrong and the game will suffer. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheGayTent Posted November 16, 2018 Report Share Posted November 16, 2018 19 hours ago, ThomThomDrum said: VAR next season in the PL. Hopefully it will be a good thing............. One of the shitest rule changes since the introduction of the ‘PL’ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WS_Jack_III Posted November 16, 2018 Report Share Posted November 16, 2018 All for VAR but it needs to be done more like NFL as stated above. Newcastle have a bigger net spend on Scudamore than transfers this season. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pink_triangle Posted November 17, 2018 Report Share Posted November 17, 2018 Can anyone who understands the nations league explain to me what Wales finishing second means in terms of the Euros play offs? I think group winners only are guaranteed a play off place, but also know some of the group winners in tier 2 and most of tier 1 won't need the play off route. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JSmurphy Posted November 18, 2018 Report Share Posted November 18, 2018 Nations League. Always loved it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wooderson Posted November 18, 2018 Report Share Posted November 18, 2018 INT footie is shit. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gnomicide Posted November 18, 2018 Report Share Posted November 18, 2018 Just catching up on the thread and felt the need to say Joe Cole, absolute fraud of a player. One of the worst ever Liverpool signings. Despise him. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jyoung Posted November 19, 2018 Report Share Posted November 19, 2018 13 hours ago, Gnomicide said: Just catching up on the thread and felt the need to say Joe Cole, absolute fraud of a player. One of the worst ever Liverpool signings. Despise him. That's cos he's a Chelsea lad! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pink_triangle Posted November 19, 2018 Report Share Posted November 19, 2018 What do Chelsea fans think of the fact that it was your chairman who proposed this stupid idea of giving Scudamore this big bonus? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jyoung Posted November 19, 2018 Report Share Posted November 19, 2018 3 hours ago, pink_triangle said: What do Chelsea fans think of the fact that it was your chairman who proposed this stupid idea of giving Scudamore this big bonus? Same as everyone else I imagine. Total bollocks. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Nal Posted November 21, 2018 Report Share Posted November 21, 2018 O'Neill and Keane sacked. 1 win in 11 games. ? Has to be Mick McCarthy in now. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eFestivals Posted November 21, 2018 Report Share Posted November 21, 2018 13 minutes ago, The Nal said: O'Neill and Keane sacked. 1 win in 11 games. ? Has to be Mick McCarthy in now. - out of the frying pan into the fire. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Nal Posted November 21, 2018 Report Share Posted November 21, 2018 23 minutes ago, eFestivals said: - out of the frying pan into the fire. Id take a chance on anyone at the moment. We are shit. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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