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27 minutes ago, neacaisa said:

to be honest, i can't understand why people still defend this edition on this thread, any other festival would be torn to pieces on this forum if they booked this line up. headliners are simply atrocious, the undercard is pretty decent, but not the best by primavera standards imo, so it cannot salvage the edition. 

on the social media, the negative reactions are dominant. i think they will probably flop on ticket sales.

Different strokes for different folks, of course, but instant reactions to a 226 acts announcement are plain ignorant, referring mostly to the headliners. I bet you aren't familiar even with half of the lineup. Most of us aren't.

Obviously, no other festival announces 226 acts at once, so I don't see the point in comparing the Primavera announcement to others. People didn't have the time to digest it and went out with pitchforks.

Speaking for myself - after three straight Primaveras the jury is still out, but I'm leaning towards coming making the trip once again. I'm looking for discoveries in the lineup, which as usual consists tons of exciting, new acts I haven't listened to before, and hoping to make a decision soon, while other festivals are looking less and less brilliant from my point of view.

People around me said Primavera would flop on ticket sales back in 2017, 2018. Obviously they were wrong, as it sold out months ahead of it, so I suggest you hold your horses with that last statement.

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9 minutes ago, festivalguy97 said:

No it´s not that, there are still very good albums that we will hear this year like Janelle Monae, Low and lots of others, it´s just that I was expecting those artists and none of them came here and it´s strange for me, maybe not for other people.

I was expecting Parquet Courts but I guess it really depends on the tours.

Mitski has been on an APE poster that was accidentally posted by one of the artists, so I believe she was supposed to be on EU tour during Primavera but something's changed. Today she was announced for Flow festival in August.

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10 minutes ago, Orens said:

I was expecting Parquet Courts but I guess it really depends on the tours.

Mitski has been on an APE poster that was accidentally posted by one of the artists, so I believe she was supposed to be on EU tour during Primavera but something's changed. Today she was announced for Flow festival in August.

Very good point on Mitski.

I bet she was meant to be at Primavera and then decided to delay her tour.

Can hardly blame Primavera for that. Plus much as I love her on record she was a bit dull in 2017.

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17 minutes ago, Gucci Piggy said:

Or it just isn't to your taste? By and large, the headliners this year are as critically acclaimed as usual, so that clearly isn't a consensus view.

And I'm not saying that with bias, as I'm not going to this festival and I personally prefer the likes of The Cure to what has been booked this year, but a lot of people I know think the lineup is amazing and it's not hard to see that it will appeal to a lot of people.

Even in the Glastonbury section of this forum there were loads of people fawning over this lineup and asking if we can just have it as the Glastonbury lineup.

I disagree with your view with regards to the headliners. Every year, the headliners have always contained a couple of artists who are legacy acts, rare performers, random bookings or potential once in a lifetime bookings. For the first time, I don't believe there is one headline artist that fits that description. All of the headliners for the 2019 edition would make excellent sub headliners apart from arguably J Balvin who is not a great live performer like Gabi makes him out to be. The headliners may be critically acclaimed but that doesn't automatically mean they are big enough to headline the festival on their own.

It's possible the festival is moving into a territory where they have no big headliners and that's OK. There is strength in the undercard. But it can't be said that the headliners for 2019 have the same stature or pulling power as the headliners in prior years.

 

 

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13 minutes ago, Mau5 said:

 

I disagree with your view with regards to the headliners. Every year, the headliners have always contained a couple of artists who are legacy acts, rare performers, random bookings or potential once in a lifetime bookings. For the first time, I don't believe there is one headline artist that fits that description. All of the headliners for the 2019 edition would make excellent sub headliners apart from arguably J Balvin who is not a great live performer like Gabi makes him out to be. The headliners may be critically acclaimed but that doesn't automatically mean they are big enough to headline the festival on their own.

It's possible the festival is moving into a territory where they have no big headliners and that's OK. There is strength in the undercard. But it can't be said that the headliners for 2019 have the same stature or pulling power as the headliners in prior years.

I didn't say the headliners are as big as usual, though. He said the headliners are atrocious, I said they're as critically acclaimed as ever so that clearly isn't the consensus view.

I agree that there aren't as many big draws as usual, whether through blockbuster headliners or big, rare live acts. In fact I said the same thing to one of my mates when it was announced.

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Just now, Mau5 said:

I disagree with your view with regards to the headliners. Every year, the headliners have always contained a couple of artists who are legacy acts, rare performers, random bookings or potential once in a lifetime bookings. For the first time, I don't believe there is one headline artist that fits that description. All of the headliners for the 2019 edition would make excellent sub headliners apart from arguably J Balvin who is not a great live performer like Gabi makes him out to be. The headliners may be critically acclaimed but that doesn't automatically mean they are big enough to headline the festival on their own.

It's possible the festival is moving into a territory where they have no big headliners and that's OK. There is strength in the undercard. But it can't be said that the headliners for 2019 have the same stature or pulling power as the headliners in prior years.

Which touring big acts you guys really think would've fit PS?

People would have been thrilled with The Cure, but they haven't released even a single song since their last headlining performance, so ruled out by Primavera criterias (just like Bon Iver and The National).

I think New Order, Chance the Rapper and Travis Scott would've fit, but seems like they are all touring Europe later this summer, with no dates in June so far. Kraftwerk would've been nice, but I expect Sonar to announce them at some point.

The only touring act I would've really liked for Primavera is Franz Ferdinand, which has an appeal for 00s indie boys, but I also love their latest album. Couldn't think of anything else.

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1 hour ago, festivalguy97 said:

No it´s not that, there are still very good albums that we will hear this year like Janelle Monae, Low and lots of others, it´s just that I was expecting those artists and none of them came here and it´s strange for me, maybe not for other people.

Speaking about that portuguese festival Gabi went last year, it´s the worst festival we have here in Portugal, in terms of artists, in terms of fans, just check their lineup. I also went to that festival because my friends offered me tickets and I went to see J Balvin, I heard his album before and I liked it but boy he was awfull, it was a simple reggeaton concert, nothing new, just backup dancers and a bit of lights.

Unless J Balvin makes a hell of a show in Primavera, with great visual show and dancers and stuff like that, I could see it again but I don´t know, and his voice is very bad at live concerts, it´s cringy.

Speaking of Cardi B, I also seen her last year, and for my surprise she is a great performer with a good show.

Can´t say the same about Future, I hated his show back in 2017 when I saw him in Lisbon.

 

On the Cardi B point I agree. Not a fan but I was watching her show from afar at Coachella and she put on one hell of a show. 

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12 minutes ago, Orens said:

Which touring big acts you guys really think would've fit PS?

People would have been thrilled with The Cure, but they haven't released even a single song since their last headlining performance, so ruled out by Primavera criterias (just like Bon Iver and The National).

I think New Order, Chance the Rapper and Travis Scott would've fit, but seems like they are all touring Europe later this summer, with no dates in June so far. Kraftwerk would've been nice, but I expect Sonar to announce them at some point.

The only touring act I would've really liked for Primavera is Franz Ferdinand, which has an appeal for 00s indie boys, but I also love their latest album. Couldn't think of anything else.

Tool or Smashing Pumpinks, maybe? 

Smashing Pumpkins already booked by two other spanish festivals, so that's probably why they're not booked.

Kanye/Kids See Ghosts would have been great, but I doubt he will be in Europe.

Vampire Weekend are probably touring US in June. 

Not many possibilities to be honest. 

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Just now, neacaisa said:

Tool or Smashing Pumpinks, maybe? 

Smashing Pumpkins already booked by two other spanish festivals, so that's probably why they're not booked.

Kanye/Kids See Ghosts would have been great, but I doubt he will be in Europe.

Vampire Weekend are probably touring US in June. 

Not many possibilities to be honest. 

Gabi said Tool aren't Primavera type of headining act, he's fine with them on the bill but not on top of it.

He hates Samshing Pumpkins and their new stuff.

Vampire Weekend are strongly rumored to play Gov Ball in New York that weekend.

There's a reason to believe Primavera brought the finest possible batch of Primavera-esque headlining acts, especially considering their insistence of not repeating themselves and keeping it as fresh as possible. I would switch Interpol with Franz Ferdinand but that's probably it.

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Just now, Orens said:

Gabi said Tool aren't Primavera type of headining act, he's fine with them on the bill but not on top of it.

He hates Samshing Pumpkins and their new stuff.

Vampire Weekend are strongly rumored to play Gov Ball in New York that weekend.

There's a reason to believe Primavera brought the finest possible batch of Primavera-esque headlining acts, especially considering their insistence of not repeating themselves and keeping it as fresh as possible. I would switch Interpol with Franz Ferdinand but that's probably it.

I call them Samshing Pumpkins after too many pints.

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After nearly a week with this line up I can safely say that the 2019 Primavera is one of their best.  They have stayed true to what first got me into this festival back in 2010 & each edition (minus a couple) ever since.

Through what I like, recommendations from friends & people on the forum & end of year lists, the list of acts I want to see is immense -

Big Thief, Carcass, Dam-Funk

, Danny Brown

, Demdike Stare

, Dirty Projectors

, Erykah Badu

, FKA Twigs

, Guided by Voices

, Nas

, The Necks, Shonen Knife, SOPHIE

, Stephen Malkmus & The Jicks

, Stiff Little Fingers, Yaeji, Soccer Mommy, Aldous Harding, Amyl & The Sniffers, Beak>

, Carly Rae Jepsen

, Fucked Up

, Helena Hauff, Iglooghost, Janelle Monae

, Jawbreaker, Low

, Midori Takada, Snail Mail

, Sons of Kemet XL

, Tame Impala

, Georgia Anne Muldrow, Built to Spill

, Haru Nemuri, Jon Hassell, The Messthetics, Neneh Cherry

, Pusha T

, Roisin Murphy

, Rosalia

, Solange , Stereolab

, Tim Hecker & Konoyo Ensemble, Tirzah, Kali Uchis, JPEGMAFIA, Tierra Whack

I find it hard to complain about this.
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1 hour ago, Orens said:

Which touring big acts you guys really think would've fit PS?

The Good, The Bad & The Queen

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56 minutes ago, neacaisa said:

Kanye/Kids See Ghosts would have been great, but I doubt he will be in Europe.

Well, from Kanyes label GOOD Music we got Pusha T, number 7 aggregated across 59 year end lists (at albumoftheyear), and president/CEO at Kanyes label. And we got NAS as a great rap legacy act (with a good 2018 record as well).

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Im really curious to see how will this all go out, since I have already purchased plane ticket and airbnb looks like I will go to this shity edition of primavera and spread some postive energy with all these snowflakes, at least it looks like it wont be crowded,  everyday there are few new tickets for sale on ticketswap, I can bet they they will be back to old normal in 2020....

30 may : Inerpol/Fka Twigs/nitzer ebb/Apparat/Sophie/Myrkur/The Necks/denis sulta/shonen knife/krystal klear/anastasia kristensen

31 may : Tame Impala/Robyn/Suede/Yves Tumor/Low/Cybotron/Julia Holter/FUcked Up/Snail Mail/Objekt/Midor Takada/Agoria/

1 June : Stereolab/Rosin Murphy/Primal Scream/Modeselktor/Built to Spil/david August/Tim Hecker/Jon Hasell/ TIrzah/Haru Nemuri/Aisha Devi/Drab Majesty

Big Red Macine / Deerhunter/Hatchie/

 

there are probably few more interesting electronic names that I have to discover but mostly thats it

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29 minutes ago, Gnarler said:

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- Why didn't you bring Brockhampton to Primavera?

= We couldn't match the dates

- Okay, I hope we can have them one year.

 

I really cried when I saw that they´re not coming to Primavera, Mad Cool or BBK or FIB will probably catch them, really good act

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For me, the Saturday is probably the best day at any European festival announced so far. Think it's fair to say the line-up overall however, is poor - and that's as a result of this ludicrous policy they've introduced. They've also set a precedent now and surely have to do it in the future too? Awful idea.

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16 minutes ago, 40 Days said:

For me, the Saturday is probably the best day at any European festival announced so far. Think it's fair to say the line-up overall however, is poor - and that's as a result of this ludicrous policy they've introduced. They've also set a precedent now and surely have to do it in the future too? Awful idea.

They have to fairly represent females each year? Good God, what a travesty.

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4 minutes ago, Gucci Piggy said:

They have to fairly represent females each year? Good God, what a travesty.

you have trouble with understanding this.....will now university for lets stay classic music or on any other study goup will they now stop lookng for scores on exams and use this retarded gender policy and divide number of studens based on their gender...actually I belive lots of snowflakes on this forum think that should be also normal

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6 minutes ago, n=Nowheretohide said:

you have trouble with understanding this.....will now university for lets stay classic music or on any other study goup will they now stop lookng for scores on exams and use this retarded gender policy and divide number of studens based on their gender...actually I belive lots of snowflakes on this forum think that should be also normal

You have any proof that Primavera has booked worse acts than it could have done in order to get more females on the bill?

In previous years I'm sure they could have booked some female acts instead of some male acts and kept the bill at the same level of quality.

There are loads of acts every year who don't get picked to play, and are just as good as the ones who do get picked. If they have the option of several acts who are just as good/just as qualified to play Primavera, choosing the female one in order to increase female representation on the bill isn't a bad thing.

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2 minutes ago, Gucci Piggy said:

If they have the option of several acts who are just as good/just as qualified to play Primavera, choosing the female one in order to increase female representation on the bill isn't a bad thing.

It is sexist though, isn't it? 

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1 minute ago, clasher said:

It is sexist though, isn't it? 

Why is it? Females are unfairly represented in the festival/music industry and because of that they're less encouraged to make music and aim to take their place in those industries. Large institutions like major festivals are some of the best placed people to reverse the unfair way in which males dominate the scene, and focusing on booking more females is pretty much the only way they can do this.

It's quite telling that the only people I've ever seen complaining about this are blokes.

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