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17 minutes ago, guypjfreak said:

Am I the only person who remembers the video of badgers feeding at the crew station at the bottom of muddy Lane...

 

Hello guy,

Was this one of them?

 

Not sure if that footage helps or hinders the anti-cull campaign!

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No Old son 

Ok 

You know the cottage down near Leftfield where the security and staff get food. Well not many people know this but there is a set of badgers there and even when the festival is on they come out and feed. 

AND THAT my friend is the video I am looking for.. I'm SURE some one on here posted the said video.. 

Anyway hope this jogs someone's memory. 

PS good video old son 

 

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The local rag is reporting that Michael has resigned as Vice President of the Somerset Wildlife Trust after 87000 people signed an on-line petition calling for his removal due to his reported support of the badger cull..
 

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On 6/22/2018 at 9:51 PM, guypjfreak said:

No Old son 

Ok 

You know the cottage down near Leftfield where the security and staff get food. Well not many people know this but there is a set of badgers there and even when the festival is on they come out and feed. 

AND THAT my friend is the video I am looking for.. I'm SURE some one on here posted the said video.. 

Anyway hope this jogs someone's memory. 

PS good video old son 

 

I remember the video but can't find it. I think it was on an ITV attempt at cashing in on the Countryfile market but could be wrong. 

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27 minutes ago, Gnomicide said:

I remember the video but can't find it. I think it was on an ITV attempt at cashing in on the Countryfile market but could be wrong. 

Na that sounds right old son.. Hopefully some one can find it. Lol 

 

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9 hours ago, guypjfreak said:

Na that sounds right old son.. Hopefully some one can find it. Lol 

 

Is this it, around 7mins in.

Charm x

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Thanks charm you are a star 

That's the one I was looking for. Now if Mr E didn't like badgers they would not be there imo.. 

Once again CHARM thank you. G

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On 9/7/2018 at 6:54 PM, Radi0Head said:

On the upside these people who boycott make it easier for everyone else to get tickets, it's not all bad

I like your thinking 

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I totally disagree with Eavis over this issue, but then as a vegan I disagree with his business. If you are going to boycott Glastonbury because of the badger cull you should be boycotting because it's on a dairy farm. 

I shall not be boycotting Glastonbury because for me the celebration of humanity and the escape it offers outweighs those considerations. Glastonbury is more than just a gig. From my perspective the world is not exactly as I would want it but that is hardly an excuse to recuse myself from it. 

If these issues are important to you Glastonbury is actually a good place to go and raise and engage with festival goers  in the Greenfields and political areas. Boycotting would be completely pointless win my opinion, you would be doing nothing for the badgers and denying yourself the best week of the year.

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28 minutes ago, Hotchilidog said:

If you are going to boycott Glastonbury because of the badger cull you should be boycotting because it's on a dairy farm.

At which point, to maintain consistency you'd then have to boycott nearly every out of town festival in the country, as the vast majority utilise grazing land for some or all of their site.

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2 hours ago, Hotchilidog said:

I totally disagree with Eavis over this issue, but then as a vegan I disagree with his business. If you are going to boycott Glastonbury because of the badger cull you should be boycotting because it's on a dairy farm. 

I shall not be boycotting Glastonbury because for me the celebration of humanity and the escape it offers outweighs those considerations. Glastonbury is more than just a gig. From my perspective the world is not exactly as I would want it but that is hardly an excuse to recuse myself from it. 

If these issues are important to you Glastonbury is actually a good place to go and raise and engage with festival goers  in the Greenfields and political areas. Boycotting would be completely pointless win my opinion, you would be doing nothing for the badgers and denying yourself the best week of the year.

Great post. I'm a vegan too and had been struggling to articulate my reasons for choosing to disregard some aspects of the festival that could be deemed hypocritical 

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17 hours ago, Supernintendo Chalmers said:

Great post. I'm a vegan too and had been struggling to articulate my reasons for choosing to disregard some aspects of the festival that could be deemed hypocritical 

The world is not vegan, unless you grow your own food and make your own clothes there is no way way you can possibly avoid contact with non-vegan aspects of the world. If you buy your rice at supermarket your engagement with non-vegan activity is the same as attending Glastonbury or any other festival/show/venue for that matter.

In my view, even though the festival is held on a dairy farm,  the festival actually promotes a world view that encourages more empathetic behaviour and positivity (well it does to me anyway). Glastonbury also has greatest choice of vegan food at any festival that I know. 

It''s a shame that Eavis is unable to understand the bad science behind the badger cull, but the world would be a colder darker place without the festival and I am grateful to him for that.

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14 minutes ago, Hotchilidog said:

It''s a shame that Eavis is unable to understand the bad science behind the badger cull

while that's ultimately the side I fall on, one of the issues is that the science isn't conclusive either way tho it does lean in one direction more than the other.

And it's worth remembering that from where Eavis is sat it's not really about cull-or-not-cull, it's about cull-the-badgers or cull-his-cattle (cos the cattle get culled if they get TB). It's not really surprising that he like many cattle farmers prefer to see badgers killed than his cattle.

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Just throwing it out there for the people opposed to a cull on 'humanitarian' grounds - if your house was infested with mice or rats (as many people's are) would you oppose their extermination? I'm not trying to niggle anyone, I'm genuinely curious.

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4 hours ago, Yoghurt on a Stick said:

Just throwing it out there for the people opposed to a cull on 'humanitarian' grounds - if your house was infested with mice or rats (as many people's are) would you oppose their extermination? I'm not trying to niggle anyone, I'm genuinely curious.

 

It's a tricky one, isn't it Yog? As always in these matters it's a polarising subject. I'll try and give you my take on it, as objectively as possible, although as I have both feet firmly in one camp that's probably quite difficult. Personally, I'm opposed to any form of extermination. The question might be what's causing your house to become infested in the first place? Unsanitary conditions, open food containers or even nearby construction work (usually all human-created issues in the first place) can cause the rodents to move from one area to another. With regards to removing the problem, there are humane traps available and involve catching the animal(s) and releasing it/them somewhere safely. It is possible and there are specialist companies who will carry this out.

Back to the badger cull subject, from the information I've been exposed to from both sides of the argument there's not necessarily a conclusive resolution, but from my point of view there must be a more humane way of dealing with the problem. Unfortunately the humane way, such as a vaccination programme isn't always the quickest or most cost effective method and that would appear to be the determining factor, sadly.

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On 9/10/2018 at 3:21 PM, Supernintendo Chalmers said:

Great post. I'm a vegan too and had been struggling to articulate my reasons for choosing to disregard some aspects of the festival that could be deemed hypocritical 

It's because your enjoyment of getting fucked up at the festival is more important to you than your ethics.

Which is fine, but it's really that simple.

 

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On 9/11/2018 at 9:05 PM, Supernintendo Chalmers said:

 

It's a tricky one, isn't it Yog? As always in these matters it's a polarising subject. I'll try and give you my take on it, as objectively as possible, although as I have both feet firmly in one camp that's probably quite difficult. Personally, I'm opposed to any form of extermination. The question might be what's causing your house to become infested in the first place? Unsanitary conditions, open food containers or even nearby construction work (usually all human-created issues in the first place) can cause the rodents to move from one area to another. With regards to removing the problem, there are humane traps available and involve catching the animal(s) and releasing it/them somewhere safely. It is possible and there are specialist companies who will carry this out.

 

Thanks for answering. I'm a meat eater (hypocrite) but don't really like the idea of animals being killed unnecessarily, other than for food. That said, I'm having some serious doubts about my meat eating. My stepson is vegan and makes lovely meals. There's no doubt in my mind that I could live on such meals, and so, really, ought to.My wife's thinking along the same lines too. So I might just go for it.

As an aside, in a previous job, I occasionally  had to get large trees cut down entirely for safety reasons. That used to upset me. Knowing that these trees had survived through World Wars etc, and there was me giving an order for them to be chopped down. Not the same as killing an animal, I know, but it still gave me heartache.

If anybody's in to trees etc, then this is worth watching;

 

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