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RTJ were amazing. I wasn't sure if a queens crowd would be that into them, but people were going nuts where I was. Queens themselves were so much better than I thought, and I really enjoyed the setlist too. That opener of Do It Again, Lost Art, Go With the Flow and Sick Sick Sick was so good.

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Best I’ve seen Qotsa in an awful long time. Terrific, slick set which flowed brilliantly.

Was level with the sound tent for the start and the sound was ropey to say the least. Though the chants of ‘turn it up’ really aren’t going to help anyone. Went forward later and it was booming, so all about position for me.

The Hives and Hinds were also awesome and funny in equal measure. Black Honey have improved massively. Iggy was poor to be honest, not playing as much actual solo stuff as he might.

Organisational wise, it was a bit of a shambles. Placing the toilets and water taps next to the biggest bar was a stupid call which caused horrendous bottle-necking.

I was often fortunate and didn’t have to queue that long at the bar, waiting until just after Qotsa started when there was no-one around to get a drink again. I understand that extra staff were drafted in after the problems on Friday, but it wasn’t pretty.

My view is that FR got greedy and sold perhaps as many as 10,000 more tickets than they really should. The event was heaving wherever you went, even early in the day.

Nonetheless, most of the acts I wanted to see produced but I’d think twice about going to another gig at Finsbury (having experienced similar issues at other events there) or a one-day FR event.

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I was chatting to security yesterday and he told me at one point the que was 3 hours long so he just started telling people they aren't allowed to get drinks anymore. 

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Festival Republic- never, ever again. The worst queues in all my years of gig going, terrible sound and oversold.

 

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Just boggles the mind that a group that has been running these events for ages can fuck up this badly while just weeks ago the APE folks came along and nailed it on their first try. Will definitely think twice about attending another one of their London events. 

Bands were good tho. For the record Hinds were the best act of the day. QotSA marvellous too. 

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2 minutes ago, Mash011 said:

Just boggles the mind that a group that has been running these events for ages can fuck up this badly while just weeks ago the APE folks came along and nailed it on their first try. Will definitely think twice about attending another one of their London events. 

Bands were good tho. For the record Hinds were the best act of the day. QotSA marvellous too. 

I agree with you on the first point but Hinds better than QOTSA?

QOTSA have been playing for 25 years and it shows in how damn tight they are. They put on an incredible show, bucketloads of charisma and swager and an epic back catalogue. Versus Hinds and their fun but lightweight and unchallenging garage pop and some middling riffs.

Sure mate, sure...

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2 minutes ago, xxialac said:

I agree with you on the first point but Hinds better than QOTSA?

QOTSA have been playing for 25 years and it shows in how damn tight they are. They put on an incredible show, bucketloads of charisma and swager and an epic back catalogue. Versus Hinds and their fun but lightweight and unchallenging garage pop and some middling riffs.

Sure mate, sure...

Uh oh the extremely serious rock fans are at it again. 

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Had a brilliant time but as many have said queues were disastrous. Found the bar/toilets bear the entrance of the fesitval had the more tolerable queues. Found buying in bulk helped. First round bought 4 pints and two rum an cokes between me and the misses. All the band's I saw were excellent though. From where I stood sound was fine too.

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Won’t rush back to a Festival republic show, or Finsbury Park in general. 

Good music, poor execution of every other aspect of the day it seemed. 

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Got to echo much of what has already been said. Queues were a joke, the sound was poor but the acts themselves were great.  I mean, I couldn't care less for the music of the Hives, but i could watch them all day. 

Miles Kane is an unlikable fellow with the tunes to match, but getting smashed on £33 bottles of prosecco helped with that. 

First time in years I've been to London and the first time ever at finsbury park, so I was happy being a tourist.  Dunno when I'll be back, big gigs in general are becoming more of a pain, but perhaps thats just me. 

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1 hour ago, Mash011 said:

Just boggles the mind that a group that has been running these events for ages can fuck up this badly while just weeks ago the APE folks came along and nailed it on their first try. Will definitely think twice about attending another one of their London events. 

Bands were good tho. For the record Hinds were the best act of the day. QotSA marvellous too. 

Not exactly rookies, the Anschutz Entertainment Group. But I think they do by and large contract things out mostly, whilst Live Nation runs a lot of stuff under their roof and keep costs down wherever possible.

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5 minutes ago, dentalplan said:

Not exactly rookies, the Anschutz Entertainment Group. But I think they do by and large contract things out mostly, whilst Live Nation runs a lot of stuff under their roof and keep costs down wherever possible.

Aye I just mean this specific kind of London park event which FR have been doing for ages. 

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2 minutes ago, Mash011 said:

Aye I just mean this specific kind of London park event which FR have been doing for ages. 

Ah yeah that's undeniably true. It's probably a long con to make you buy VIP tickets next year.

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QOTSA were very good.

Venue and organisation was shambolic. Too many people in too small a space. I shudder to think what that was like for Liam Gallagher with a perhaps less mature crowd......

VIP bar was a mess as well. Why don’t they run a tokens system like other events?

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All the acts were superb and we were fairly near the front so the sound was perfectly fine

The venue definitely felt like it was oversold though. As people have mentioned in this thread already, All Points East was busy but you never felt that the infrastructure was being stretched

It took a rather uncomfortable half an hour to get out of Finsbury Park whereas for both APE dates I attended (including the sold out Nick Cave show) it probably took about 10 minutes to leave

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We weren't even halfway back for Iggy Pop and our regular talking voices were comfortably louder than the music. I kinda enjoyed his set but it wasn't what I hoped it'd be. Thought the first one or two Queens songs were too quiet as well (we were fairly near the front at this point), but then they sorted it out and the sound was great from then on. Really good setlist without too much focus on Villains. Defo better than the Manchester gig in November, and that was very good itself. RTJ were brilliant obviously and I didn't have an issue with their sound. The Hives were way too quiet and pretty underwhelming; they were a lot more enjoyable at Y Not a couple of years ago, or maybe they're just not a band I needed to see more than once. I wouldn't have minded seeing Miles Kane tbh but our coach down to London was late so didn't get the chance.

When I queued up for the bar it took ages, and when I got to the front I got a couple of pints before passing the fella my card. Literally at that moment they started moaning about how the card machines were down so when he went off with my card to try and sort it, I downed the first pint and started the second one. Then he came back and told me the system was down and I'd have to pay cash or leave the drinks there. I blagged them for free so something good came out of the shambles at least. My mate queued up for us all later on so I didn't do too badly with it personally, but it's impossible to overstate just how bad the organisation was. I won't go back unless there's another lineup as unmissable as yesterday's, which is unlikely.

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I feel like they could have tacked on an extra tenner to the ticket price and actually hired some real bar staff instead of volunteers. I felt that £60 was very cheap for a lineup like that in London. 

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20 minutes ago, evilduck said:

I feel like they could have tacked on an extra tenner to the ticket price and actually hired some real bar staff instead of volunteers. I felt that £60 was very cheap for a lineup like that in London. 

They wouldn't have even needed to do that.  The Workers Beer Company still pay for all their volunteers, except this payment goes to whichever charity/organisation they represent.  This works really well for big popular events like Glastonbury, but makes no sense at smaller, less popular events, where they just can't attract enough volunteers willing to face the mass of angry punters who've been waiting for hours.  They are going to have to change their business model for this type of event, i.e. let the unions/charities/etc. have first dibs on putting their volunteers forward (as this is the WBC's unique selling point, which makes them stand out from all the other bar companies) but then fill up the rest of spaces with paid staff.  They'd still be paying the same amount per bar staff - only some of it would be going direct to them rather than to good causes.

The  WBC are a good organisation, but the fact that they try to be democratic/committee-driven means their management is a bit unimaginative and slow-to-react and this leads to all sorts of problems, including this one.

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I see workers beer co have made a statement regarding beer queue chaos

https://www.workersbeer.co.uk/volunteers/press-statement/

This strikes me as festival republic putting pressure on WBC to take the blame on their behalf . Be interesting to see what @glasto-worker makes of it all. 

Festival republic still responsible for exits , toilet/water queues etc. Think they should make a statement themselves rather than letting WBC take the rap.

 

 

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27 minutes ago, thesaint78 said:

I see workers beer co have made a statement regarding beer queue chaos

https://www.workersbeer.co.uk/volunteers/press-statement/

This strikes me as festival republic putting pressure on WBC to take the blame on their behalf . Be interesting to see what @glasto-worker makes of it all. 

Festival republic still responsible for exits , toilet/water queues etc. Think they should make a statement themselves rather than letting WBC take the rap.

 

 

That statement is a joke. The lack of staff didn’t help but the biggest issue was the lack of bars for an event of this size.

And the sound was dogshite. Nothing to do with the bar staff.

The bottom line is Festival Republic are either greedy or incompetent.

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That statement reaks of we'll take the blame if you continue to use our service for your shitty festivals, no respect for WBC there. WBC weren't to blame for over crowding, lack of bars & poorly located facilities.

Having said that, the bar staff were totally incompetent. Over ten minutes from ordering to paying for three beers & two gin & tonics... I didn't order the wine because I feared they were out back barefoot crushing the grapes to order. 

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The gig itself was great. Enjoyed something out of all the bands I saw (stuck to the main stage), and the headline band sounded excellent. Could've been longer IMO - they arrived 15 late and finished 10 minutes before curfew. There was also an odd moment during … Millionaire when the guitar nearly died, but it was still an excellent show.

As I don't drink, I wasn't intending to use the bar. But I went to get water between The Hives and RTJ at the station by the bar at the top of the park. I don't recall the queue for the bar also including the toilets and water, as when I got to the water, the queue didn't look long, but Christ that main bar queue in isolation was astonishing, as it was looking for the other 2 bars. Also bizarre the other main water station had overflowed. I will also agree the exit was also hideously organised.

I was sceptical about Finsbury because while I enjoyed the RATM gig there in 2010, I thought the sound for Arctic Monkeys in 2014 was poor for both them and Tame Impala, so wasn't expecting much. It did exceed my expectations on the sound score, but a lot of the general organisation needs work.

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3 hours ago, thesaint78 said:

I see workers beer co have made a statement regarding beer queue chaos

https://www.workersbeer.co.uk/volunteers/press-statement/

This strikes me as festival republic putting pressure on WBC to take the blame on their behalf . Be interesting to see what @glasto-worker makes of it all. 

Festival republic still responsible for exits , toilet/water queues etc. Think they should make a statement themselves rather than letting WBC take the rap.

 

 

please note that the WBC has been running bars at Finsbury Park since 1989 and I have covered most of them but this weekend as I have a cancer controlling implant with side effects that make me overheat I had to withdraw from this weekend as it was far too hot to work - it was all cleared in advance with the Director of the WBC. I was aware by Managers onsite letting me know that there was a huge drop out although its not clear why.

The Promoter will specify how many bars there will be - their exact footprint and location and agreed staffing numbers.

the WBC factor in so many extra Volunteers to cover staff shortage and illness and that works 99% of the time - if the extra Volunteers are not asked to work then they are told to go and enjoy the event.

I certainly cant recall there ever being such a large shortfall at any event.

If the WBC is given advance notice they will offer out the places to other Group Organisers so I suspect that this came right out the blue.If that is true they will be looking into what teams failed to show up and I suspect they will be new Teams who have not grasped the importance of only bidding for places that they are 100% certain they can cover { barring illness } 

as for Festival Republic putting pressure on the WBC - I certainly will not get into that one although its the very first time the WBC has had to apologise after a event - I will find out soon enough as the next event is in 11 days.

if there was a issue with card verification machine { some are a right pain because if the signal drops - the whole verification has to be restarted from the start } and I am sure they are already looking into that.

I am sure e-mails will be flying out to all the Group organiser who dropped out without permission. A shot before the bar got busy

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