Are Tories welcome at Glastonbury

[Martin Ashford]

Of course Tories are welcome at Glastonbury. The best thing about the festival for me has always been the green/quasi socialist slant that hovers over everything. What I can tell you with certainty is that the festival today is mild compared to what it was like in the 80's when full size dummies of Margaret Thatcher hung from gallows. The festival is easily the most influential factor in my own personal politics. I have always found it an educational experience and if the Festival can help to turn people away from right wing modes of thought then so much the better.

[Ommadawn]

4 hours ago, Mr.Tease said:

This is nonsense- Water Aid, Oxfam, Greenpeace etc are everywhere, and have adds running on the pyramid stage and they have a new campaign every year. The most popular night time area (South east corner) is covered in politics and political messages. There's the green fields too. There's the left field. 

Don't know how anyone could have attended 2016 and claim no one cares about politics, when the impact of the brexit vote clearly effected the whole atmosphere for days. This whole "no one cares about politics" is an old cliche from the 00s, and applies less and less with each passing year.

So you think Water Aid, Oxfam and Greenpeace are political organisations - how strange. I've never found the green fields particularity political - left field is less political than it used to be.

You clearly visited a different festival to me in 2016. I heard plenty of people discussing the Brexit result but for you to say it affected the whole festival atmosphere for days is clearly an overstatement.

I think Glastonbury could declare itself politically neutral and still sell out as I'm afraid most people who attend, do so for many reasons other than the political content.

[Mardy]

Nah, that weekend was overshadowed by the Brexit vote, half the acts referenced it. Really did put the mockers on the weeekend.

[Ommadawn]

10 minutes ago, Mardy said:

Nah, that weekend was overshadowed by the Brexit vote, half the acts referenced it. Really did put the mockers on the weeekend.

Maybe for you but I'll wager most people didn't let it spoil their festival.

[incident]

35 minutes ago, Ommadawn said:

So you think Water Aid, Oxfam and Greenpeace are political organisations - how strange.

But they are. By any reasonable definition they are.

They may try to avoid getting bogged down in party politics, but that's not the same thing - they're clearly political organisations, and clearly on the left rather than the right.

[Beerqueen]

27 minutes ago, Mardy said:

Nah, that weekend was overshadowed by the Brexit vote, half the acts referenced it. Really did put the mockers on the weeekend.

Agree!  It really did affect the weekend.

[Rose-Colored Boy]

WaterAid and Greenpeace not political organisations, I’ve heard it all on these forums now 

[Beerqueen]

They're not party political but they are political in that they want to change things.

[Rose-Colored Boy]

5 minutes ago, Beerqueen said:

They're not party political but they are political in that they want to change things.

As evidenced by the adverts they run between every single act on the main stages  

[Woffy]

1 hour ago, Rose-Colored Boy said:

As evidenced by the adverts they run between every single act on the main stages  

Arguably everything is political. But as beerqueen stated they’re not party political. 

[glastolover19]

3 hours ago, Ommadawn said:

Maybe for you but I'll wager most people didn't let it spoil their festival.

Obviously it was a major news story so people would be talking about it but I agree it didn't spoil anyones (I know of) festival

[Alex DeLarge]

I don't see how someone (of any persuasion) that could watch this video and tell me that Glastonbury has an apolitical stance.

[clarkete]

4 minutes ago, glastolover19 said:

Obviously it was a major news story so people would be talking about it but I agree it didn't spoil anyones (I know of) festival

Depends, how many of the people you know are also apolitical non-voters?    

 

 

3 hours ago, Ommadawn said:

 left field is less political than it used to be.

Compared to when?

https://clashfinder.com/m/g2017/

[henry bear]

10 minutes ago, Alex DeLarge said:

I don't see how someone (of any persuasion) that could watch this video and tell me that Glastonbury has an apolitical stance.

Glastonbury isn’t apolitical, but sometimes it’s more overt.

[glastolover19]

2 minutes ago, clarkete said:

Depends, how many of the people you know are also apolitical non-voters?    
 

It was relatively diverse, some remainers,some leavers,some none voters 

I know there's a special place in hell for me for not voting,I will forever bow my head in shame for the disgrace I have caused this fair(lol) nation. I just hope 1 day my children will be able to look me in the eye again and forgive me for my sins ?

[Ommadawn]

23 minutes ago, Alex DeLarge said:

I don't see how someone (of any persuasion) that could watch this video and tell me that Glastonbury has an apolitical stance.

80,000 deluded people worshiping an artificial god

[Alex DeLarge]

1 minute ago, Ommadawn said:

80,000 deluded people worshiping an artificial god

What makes you say they're deluded?

[Paul_F]

I've just watched Corbyn's speech for the first time and I can't see anything objectionable about it. Anything that motivates people to vote is a good thing, regardless of your political persuasion. I'm probably in the centre of political views so find all equally disturbing which is a bit of a challenge on polling day......

Edited October 13, 2018 by Paul_F

[glastolover19]

7 minutes ago, Paul_F said:

I'm probably in the centre of political views so find all equally disturbing which is a bit of a challenge on polling day......

Jeez man are you insane? Don't mention that bit.

Ooooppps too late they have already started to build the gallows

[Paul_F]

6 minutes ago, glastolover19 said:

Jeez man are you insane? Don't mention that bit.

Ooooppps too late they have already started to build the gallows

?

[rubenz]

17 minutes ago, Paul_F said:

I'ver just watched Corbyn's speech for the first time and I can't see anything objectionable about it. Anything that motivates people to vote is a good thing, regardless of your political persuasion. I'm probably in the centre of political views so find all equally disturbing which is a bit of a challenge on polling day......

The techno re work was pretty good!

[sime]

On 10/13/2018 at 9:41 AM, glastolover19 said:

Each to their own mate but I'd rather not vote unless I have all the info from both sides. You can hate me as much as you like for not voting but in my opinion that is better than being bullied into something you don't believe.

So you are ok with ignoring actual, proven facts from the Remain side, presented at the time and proven to be true. While the other side clearly had hardly any facts but lots of conjecture. Ok then...!!

[Apone]

OK does Glastonbury give out concession tickets to the poor and needy and those on benefits who'd like to go, is there diversity amongst attendees. I see Glastonbury as a rich white person's festival, which is actually fine in itself as long as you dont then pretend youre an inclusive diversity rich festival of worthiness,  though hey you get Leftfield and Bragg to shout 'Tory scum' and you get to laugh at the massively offensive advertising hordings at Block9, and lets have some anti-semitic, anti capitalist tropes behind John Peel stage, and lets have a Greenpeace girl lecture me about the evil oil industry while drinking from a plastic bottle of water. All the Lefties can get their sanctimonious glow and swoon at Comrade Corbyn even though they've happily parted with the best part of 300 quid  and indulged in capitalism in the most blatant and flagrant manner, Meanwhile Mr Eavis can before and after still do his dairy farming with all the inherent cruelty that industry requires. I for one have had enough of this gross display of hypocrisy, if you dont like my politics then you certainly aint having my money, simple

Edited October 14, 2018 by Apone

[glastolover19]

6 minutes ago, sime said:

So you are ok with ignoring actual, proven facts from the Remain side, presented at the time and proven to be true. While the other side clearly had hardly any facts but lots of conjecture. Ok then...!!

Actual facts? Sorry but wasn't everything presented as actual fact at that time? Whilst I appreciate your disappointed that it didn't go you way that's not really my fault,maybe if more folks didn't vote instead of being bullied into it,it may have swung your way. Hindsight is wonderful my friend. 

[slash's hat]

6 minutes ago, sime said:

So you are ok with ignoring actual, proven facts from the Remain side, presented at the time and proven to be true. While the other side clearly had hardly any facts but lots of conjecture. Ok then...!!

I understand how people didn't know which way to turn tbh. If it was ripping apart both the political parties internally, I can't see how it was as cut and dry as you make out. Whichever party you normally chose to look to for guidance had it's for and against members. Alright a lot of people were suckered in by the suggestion of millions more to the nhs, which was never going to happen, but I think it's come as a surprise to many average folk how much it's going to cost to leave, let alone issues such as the Irish border etc.