Football 17/18

[Wooderson]

1 minute ago, thetime said:

Who’s mentioned hillsborough?

Always the victims... cmoffit chief.

[jyoung]

1 minute ago, thetime said:

Who’s mentioned hillsborough?

Pretty clear that earlier posts in this thread allude to the incident and use it to make some sort of example of last nights rowdier fans... Clueless, that!  

[thetime]

5 minutes ago, Wooderson said:

Always the victims... cmoffit chief.

That says more about the arrogance of Liverpool supporters.

liverpool being known as victims has squiddly squad about hillsborough. A bit like now where your lot are turning this discussion into something it’s not. Like I said always playing the victim card. #heysel #suarez

Edited April 5, 2018 by thetime

[thetime]

3 minutes ago, jyoung said:

Pretty clear that earlier posts in this thread allude to the incident and use it to make some sort of example of last nights rowdier fans... Clueless, that!  

Quote?

[eastynh]

9 minutes ago, thetime said:

Who’s mentioned hillsborough?

No one mentioned Hillsborough in a derogatory, antagonistic or offensive way. 

Liverpool fans have seen first hand what happens when things go wrong at football matches. You would think the fuckers would behave, but no, they just can't help themselves.

 

[jyoung]

18 minutes ago, thetime said:

Quote?

A: "As for the fans. They are the vilest bunch of c**t5 you could ever meet. You would think after being involved in 2 incidents where football fans have died, the fuckers would know how to behave. The fact that the football club and police were complicit in it is absolutely astounding."

B: "You have to realise scousers are always the victims, wouldn’t surprise me if daglish wore a tshirt blaming City’s coach."

I know exactly what you're getting at with Heysel and Dalglish but saying that scousers are always the victims when someone is clearly alluding to Hillsborough as a way of calling out what happened last night is low in my opinion.

I'm as southern as can be by the way, so no 'scouse victim' here.

10 minutes ago, eastynh said:

No one mentioned Hillsborough in a derogatory, antagonistic or offensive way. 

Liverpool fans have seen first hand what happens when things go wrong at football matches. You would think the fuckers would behave, but no, they just can't help themselves.

Except Hillsborough wasn't caused by some fans throwing bottles at a bus was it. That was not what 'went wrong' then. So to call them out with reference to that, as I've said already, in my opinion, is low. 

Do I think those fans displayed acceptable behaviour? Absolutely not. We probably share the same thought, that it is dangerous to behave that way. Do I think that behaviour makes it acceptable though for others to start throwing around comments about Hillsborough? Even less so.

Over and out.

Edited April 5, 2018 by jyoung

[eastynh]

1 minute ago, jyoung said:

A: "As for the fans. They are the vilest bunch of c**t5 you could ever meet. You would think after being involved in 2 incidents where football fans have died, the fuckers would know how to behave. The fact that the football club and police were complicit in it is absolutely astounding."

B: "You have to realise scousers are always the victims, wouldn’t surprise me if daglish wore a tshirt blaming City’s coach."

I know exactly what you're getting at with Heysel and Dalglish but saying that scousers are always the victims when someone is clearly alluding to Hillsborough as a way of calling out what happened last night is low in my opinion.

Except Hillsborough wasn't caused by some fans throwing bottles at a bus was it. That was not what 'went wrong' then. So to call them out with reference to that, as I've said already, in my opinion, is low. 

Do I think those fans displayed acceptable behaviour? Absolutely not. We probably share the same thought, that it is dangerous to behave that way. Do I that behaviour makes it acceptable though for others to start throwing around comments about Hillsborough? Even less so.

I'm as southern as can be by the way, so no 'scouse victim' here. Over and out.

What I said is a valid point. Liverpool fans more than any other set of fans should know that behaviour like last night is unacceptable considering everything they have been through.

It is not a difficult thing to comprehend. That could have very easily got out of hand yesterday. 2 coppers are already injured.

You can call me low all you like, but I have never booted a wall down and killed opposition fans, I have never supported a racist and racism and I have never smashed a coach window by throwing bottles at it or injured a copper in the process. Guess what? Liverpool fans have. If I am low then what  are Liverpool fans? I think vile is a fair assessment.

[thetime]

Liverpool charged by UEFA, for breaches of rules inside and out of the stadium. 

[eastynh]

1 minute ago, thetime said:

Liverpool charged by UEFA, for breaches of rules inside and out of the stadium. 

They can fuck off as well. They all knew exactly what was going to happen. Its their competition, they are ultimately responsible.

Liverpool even had a prepared statement that they released immediately after it.

The reason we lost was due to a combination of us bottling it,  poor tactics from pep and Liverpool blitzing us. Then there is the officials whos incompetence has really cost us. We rightly deserved to lose yesterday but not by 3 to nothing.

As for the fans, it is no shock that they are hated by everyone.

[JSmurphy]

1 hour ago, TheGayTent said:

When the Man Utd coach couldn’t get through very easily - due to the  large number of supporters lining the road (no barriers or escorts like there was in liverpool - weren’t pre planned you see...) - a few numbskulls threw some tinnies at the windows. 

Liverpool supporters in pre planned ‘welcome’ committee = unruly lovable scallies worthy only of small print inside paper.

West Ham supporters in spontaneous drunkeness = hooligan thugs worthy of front page news. 

Well it's clear we'll have to agree to disagree but I don't think the picture you're painting here is accurate, at all.

[Wooderson]

Easty, calm down dear.

 

[TheGayTent]

https://mobile.twitter.com/johncrossmirror/status/730286291405971456

https://mobile.twitter.com/johncrossmirror/status/981892501626908672

[eFestivals]

6 minutes ago, TheGayTent said:

https://mobile.twitter.com/johncrossmirror/status/730286291405971456

https://mobile.twitter.com/johncrossmirror/status/981892501626908672

 

[eastynh]

39 minutes ago, Wooderson said:

Easty, calm down dear.

 

Its not ovet yet.

[pink_triangle]

1 hour ago, eastynh said:

What I said is a valid point. Liverpool fans more than any other set of fans should know that behaviour like last night is unacceptable considering everything they have been through.

Liverpool fans no more or no less than any teams fans that this behaviour is unacceptable. As all sides they have a minority of idiots.

For the record the second most intimidated I have been as a Wrexham fan was at an away league match at Maine Road when an idiotic group of City fans waited by the away fans exit clearly looking for trouble. I wouldn't make any judgement on Man City fans on this basis.

[The Nal]

15 hours ago, TheGayTent said:

https://mobile.twitter.com/johncrossmirror/status/730286291405971456

https://mobile.twitter.com/johncrossmirror/status/981892501626908672

Haha. Pool fans certainly not the victims here. 

Anyway Liverpool disgracing themselves in Europe again. What a surprise. 

[Wooderson]

United fans have long and storied history of hooliganism chief. V few big clubs are not tarnished by the acts of mindless minority.

[ThomThomDrum]

19 hours ago, eastynh said:

The reason we lost was due to a combination of us bottling it,  poor tactics from pep and Liverpool blitzing us. Then there is the officials whos incompetence has really cost us. We rightly deserved to lose yesterday but not by 3 to nothing.

Ah ye did deserve that. Not one shot on target? That defo deserves the egg it laid..........and don't go blaming the officials (and playing the victim ). Do better next time.........I fully believe City will do, (but will it be enough?)

[Wooderson]

City will score at least 2 on Tuesday. The tie is far from over, theyre that good.

[thetime]

1 hour ago, ThomThomDrum said:

Ah ye did deserve that. Not one shot on target? That defo deserves the egg it laid..........and don't go blaming the officials (and playing the victim ). 

That was the officials fault though wasn’t it? Although Liverpool more than deserved the victory it was down to fine margins. 

Those 2 wrong decisions rectified would of made it 2-1 and City favourites, that’s footie though. 

Edited April 6, 2018 by thetime

[ThomThomDrum]

4 minutes ago, thetime said:

That was the officials fault though wasn’t it? Although Liverpool more than deserved the victory it was down to fine margins. 

Those 2 wrong decisions rectified would of made it 2-1 and City favourites, that’s footie though. 

Yep thats footie. And Im sure there were decisions against LFC in the match that were wrong and if given/not given the other way may have affected the game differently. Who knows? That's always the same.

But overall, looking at that game City deserved SFA from it and blaming refs is too easy to do. 

[eastynh]

1 hour ago, ThomThomDrum said:

Ah ye did deserve that. Not one shot on target? That defo deserves the egg it laid..........and don't go blaming the officials (and playing the victim ). Do better next time.........I fully believe City will do, (but will it be enough?)

It would have been a shot on target but the linesman wrongly gave it as offside. It was also a nailed on penalty when Raheem got brought down. That's 3 wrong decisions, not one and if just one of them was correctly given then it gives an entirely different complexion to the tie.

Love Scousers telling us not to blame the officials. Bit ironic considering the fuckers did not shut up about Mane's red card for 6 months, even though it was the correct decision.

Roll on Tuesday. City have come back from far worse positions than this. Liverpool are bottlers, let's hope they slip again.

 

Edited April 6, 2018 by eastynh

[eastynh]

20 hours ago, pink_triangle said:

Liverpool fans no more or no less than any teams fans that this behaviour is unacceptable. As all sides they have a minority of idiots.

For the record the second most intimidated I have been as a Wrexham fan was at an away league match at Maine Road when an idiotic group of City fans waited by the away fans exit clearly looking for trouble. I wouldn't make any judgement on Man City fans on this basis.

Maine Road was very nasty and an intimidating place. Thankfully Manchester City and most of the footballing world has moved on since then. 

[TheGayTent]

49 minutes ago, eastynh said:

Maine Road was very nasty and an intimidating place. Thankfully Manchester City and most of the footballing world has moved on since then. 

It could be, it wasn’t always and largely depended on the opposition. Same as most places. 

[ThomThomDrum]

2 hours ago, eastynh said:

It would have been a shot on target but the linesman wrongly gave it as offside. It was also a nailed on penalty when Raheem got brought down. That's 3 wrong decisions, not one and if just one of them was correctly given then it gives an entirely different complexion to the tie.

Love Scousers telling us not to blame the officials. Bit ironic considering the fuckers did not shut up about Mane's red card for 6 months, even though it was the correct decision.

Roll on Tuesday. City have come back from far worse positions than this. Liverpool are bottlers, let's hope they slip again.

 

Love it..........