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7 minutes ago, dum surfer said:

what other hip hop names could headline R1 on the 1975 day? Chance The Rapper? J. Cole? I think if Asap isn't really a wireless exclusive it would be him, but idk 

I think he is an exclusive but we've gathered over the last couple of years it doesn't really matter and it can be just used as a sneaky way to sell more tickets, not that wireless wasn't going to sell out regardless. Schoolboy Q, Logic maybe? I'd love a Beast Coast appearance but I presume that would be more directed at 1xtra if that were to happen. 

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34 minutes ago, MIchael_scarn said:

I think he is an exclusive but we've gathered over the last couple of years it doesn't really matter and it can be just used as a sneaky way to sell more tickets, not that wireless wasn't going to sell out regardless. Schoolboy Q, Logic maybe? I'd love a Beast Coast appearance but I presume that would be more directed at 1xtra if that were to happen. 

yeah i could see Logic doing it. Other than that i don't see Brockhampton returning this year now and don't see them heading R1 anyway, Skepta again maybe? after not doing last year?

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1 hour ago, gfa said:

Frank Carter clashes only with Sundara Karma and 5 minutes of Lil Baby, both of which are pretty different fanbases. Post Malone clashes with 4 artists including Mura Masa, at the headline time which has the most big artists on at once. I think theres fair reason why Frank Carter has more highlights.

Thats not usually the trend you see though with clashfinder highlights. Usually the headliners have pretty much the top spots on clashfinder numbers (and the other acts that get a lot reportedly get the biggest crowds emg. Post Malone and The Wombats last year). I'll see if I can dig up last years numbers to show you

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10 hours ago, gfa said:

Do we think there will be someone who slots in above Frank Carter? The main stage on Sunday Reading has no rap/indie whatsoever later in the day, surely someone will slot in similar to how NERD did?

I suppose there’s also the possibility of Shikari playing between Frank and ADTR.

We might have been thrown by them being at the bottom of the line up because they wanted to make a point on them playing four times.

They need to be on pretty early so they can have a gap between the two sets but they could play early in the R1 tent them play main stage later.

Obviously early main stage/headline lock up is most likely but just throwing an alternative possibility in there.

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7 minutes ago, rivalschools.price said:

I suppose there’s also the possibility of Shikari playing between Frank and ADTR.

We might have been thrown by them being at the bottom of the line up because they wanted to make a point on them playing four times.

They need to be on pretty early so they can have a gap between the two sets but they could play early in the R1 tent them play main stage later.

Obviously early main stage/headline lock up is most likely but just throwing an alternative possibility in there.

I think the press release confirmed an early main stage/Pit headline performance. Probably similar to what Jimmy Eat World did a few years ago.

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I've only just seen the line up announcement now, shows how far out of the loop I am!

Royal Blood are a nice addition, although I'd have expected them to be booked as headliners when they next played (with Tool subbing ;) ) They must have new material.

A Day To Remember subbing? :blink: Royal Blood would have been perfect subs for the Foos. Also I'm not sure about Frank Carter playing 3rd, Gallows weren't even that size.

The Wombats being bumped up a slot is a pretty lazy booking. Blossoms playing 3rd again, I guess they'll be the new Vaccines, owning that slot on the back of one flash in the pan album.

Overall a typically uninspiring '10s R&L line up.

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What's the likelihood of Enter Shikari being the sub for the Foos? Might make more sense.

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I do think bombay bicycle club would be a much better booking instead of wombats

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3 minutes ago, VCK said:

I've only just seen the line up announcement now, shows how far out of the loop I am!

Royal Blood are a nice addition, although I'd have expected them to be booked as headliners when they next played (with Tool subbing ;) ) They must have new material.

A Day To Remember subbing? :blink: Royal Blood would have been perfect subs for the Foos. Also I'm not sure about Frank Carter playing 3rd, Gallows weren't even that size.

The Wombats being bumped up a slot is a pretty lazy booking. Blossoms playing 3rd again, I guess they'll be the new Vaccines, owning that slot on the back of one flash in the pan album.

Overall a typically uninspiring '10s R&L line up.

ADTR are a comfortable sub. They’ve subbed Download and done a fairly successful arena tour. Also Franks comfortably surpassed Gallows by now.

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Just now, Steve1000 said:

ADTR are a comfortable sub. They’ve subbed Download and done a fairly successful arena tour. Also Franks comfortably surpassed Gallows by now.

Bands get bumped up more often at Download though. Case in point being last year's line up, BFMV and Black Stone Cherry were the two subs.

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5 minutes ago, VCK said:

What's the likelihood of Enter Shikari being the sub for the Foos? Might make more sense.

Almost certainly zero.

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ADTR are subbing. Frank Carter will stay third down because I can’t see The Distillers and Uzi (particularly) playing any lower. Uzi seems really low as it is. 

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1 hour ago, VCK said:

What's the likelihood of Enter Shikari being the sub for the Foos? Might make more sense.

ADTR are bigger than Enter Shikari. Plus ADTR into Foos works just fine. 

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Met Black Peaks after Shikari tonight, not at R&L this year. Said they’d love to but it’s down to the bookers not wanting to repeat too many acts year after year. Shame they’re fucking sick.

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4 hours ago, TheWaters said:

Met Black Peaks after Shikari tonight, not at R&L this year. Said they’d love to but it’s down to the bookers not wanting to repeat too many acts year after year. Shame they’re fucking sick.

Unless it's The Wombats 

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9 hours ago, TKOCF said:

I think the press release confirmed an early main stage/Pit headline performance. Probably similar to what Jimmy Eat World did a few years ago.

Jimmy didn't open though, they played like 5th down/4th down if you include the co-headliners as just one option which was their position.

9 hours ago, VCK said:

I've only just seen the line up announcement now, shows how far out of the loop I am!

Royal Blood are a nice addition, although I'd have expected them to be booked as headliners when they next played (with Tool subbing ;) ) They must have new material.

A Day To Remember subbing? :blink: Royal Blood would have been perfect subs for the Foos. Also I'm not sure about Frank Carter playing 3rd, Gallows weren't even that size.

The Wombats being bumped up a slot is a pretty lazy booking. Blossoms playing 3rd again, I guess they'll be the new Vaccines, owning that slot on the back of one flash in the pan album.

Overall a typically uninspiring '10s R&L line up.

I don't know about lil uzi vert except for I'm not a fan but like the above post I still think there is a chance of Shikari playing higher up than opening. When JEW did it they had two hours between end of man in set and lockup, Shikari would easily have that if they were playing 3rd. I think there is a chance tbh that if they take an opening slot, they'll drop off a bit, their arena tour wasn't the biggest sell but we shall see. Dua Lipa took a lower slot than you'd expect, Sum 41 took lower than I'd expect...tbf that was a great value for money day. At the cost it is for that day you'd expect it stacked.

Just realized the Foos day is dearer than the others too. Also since when did this festival charge £16 per person for a weekend ticket service charge?, £250 with postage and parking for the standard weekend each and £270 with an early bird ticket, Jesus! 

8 hours ago, VCK said:

What's the likelihood of Enter Shikari being the sub for the Foos? Might make more sense.

None

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11 hours ago, dum surfer said:

I do think bombay bicycle club would be a much better booking instead of wombats

Saw Wombats last night and the whole crowd was 16 year olds, pretty clear why Reading booked them again. Not sure how BBC would go down with the current crowd.

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To be Honest I don't think they will sell as many tickets as they did last year? better headliners agreed but undercards such as Blossoms playing in a slot that N.E.R.D took last year and personally Bastille are completely in the wrong place headlining against Foos will be Hard I also think Lil Uzi is in the wrong place and Mura Masa is a poor headliner comparing to the likes of Pendulum in that slot last year and Flume the year before. however we still have over 100 acts still to come including another Headliner I hope it's the likes of Chance The Rapper or A$AP Rocky would really make that day insane however not sure if Fredo is a good Sub he should be on the 1XTRA stage I would much rather the likes of Cage The Elephant or Bombay Bicycle Club. I also think Frank Carter although he's sick live is a slot to high that day would be insane if the Likes of The Hives or Cage The Elephant took that 3rd down ?  

That would be so cool 

The Distillers - FC&TRS - The Hives - ADTR - Foo Fighters 

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5 minutes ago, bigcharlie65 said:

better headliners agreed but undercards such as Blossoms playing in a slot that N.E.R.D took last yea

Protoje had a bigger crowd than N.E.R.D.

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37 minutes ago, JSmurphy said:

Protoje had a bigger crowd than N.E.R.D.

N.E.R.D had a poor crowd, no one really cared

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I think the tbc will be Bombay. However they don’t seem to have anything announced yet. Maybe they aren’t doing any festivals and only their own shows?

them up against 1975 wouldn’t be that weird. They’ve technically put Bombay up against Arctics before.

i reckon a lot of 1975 fans won’t know who Bombay are - the band has crossed into more young, mainstream crowds and they aren’t exactly an indie act anymore

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2 hours ago, JSmurphy said:

Protoje had a bigger crowd than N.E.R.D.

I was in the crowd for both Protoje and N.E.R.D and honestly it was close

 

and that’s not props to Protoje he had a tiny crowd

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14 hours ago, VCK said:

Bands get bumped up more often at Download though. Case in point being last year's line up, BFMV and Black Stone Cherry were the two subs.

This is bollox, BSC are a huge band in the metal scene having done multiple arena tours and BFMV have subbed twice before last year.

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