dentalplan Posted October 19, 2018 Report Share Posted October 19, 2018 2 minutes ago, Zoo Music Girl said: Dave Rowntree is a Labour councillor, just saying. He also stole Nardwuar’s hat! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zoo Music Girl Posted October 19, 2018 Report Share Posted October 19, 2018 Just now, GETOFFAMYLAWN said: Yeah but look at the state of some of the absolute fists that make it to become Labour MPs, never mind councillors. Yeah I'm not saying he's great, but it probably means he's not a Tory. Can't speak for Alex obvs, although 14-year-old me will love him 4EVA Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Quark Posted October 19, 2018 Report Share Posted October 19, 2018 2 minutes ago, Zoo Music Girl said: Yeah I'm not saying he's great, but it probably means he's not a Tory. Can't speak for Alex obvs, although 14-year-old me will love him 4EVA Alex makes cheese I like cheese Ergo I quite like Alex Simple really Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eastynh Posted October 19, 2018 Report Share Posted October 19, 2018 I still think the last headliner will be Liam Gallagher. New album will be out and he is already filling arenas and bigish outdoor events. Not that I particularly want him, but I think it's him. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Winslow Leach Posted October 19, 2018 Report Share Posted October 19, 2018 (edited) 16 minutes ago, dentalplan said: I just kinda meant in the way that they were a group that worked their way into the hearts of the working class but, looking back, they probably weren’t in tune with the masses and one of them was an enormo-Tory all along. Pulp are left-wing Labour. Good heart, brown suit, unelectable. Pulp are interesting because, having been around since the early 80s, they were sort of a holdover from an earlier, pre-90s tradition of British upper-working to lower-middle class art rock that the 90s pretty definitively closed off, imo. Cocker is closer to, say, David Sylvian than he is to Damon Albarn. Edited October 19, 2018 by Winslow Leach Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dentalplan Posted October 19, 2018 Report Share Posted October 19, 2018 2 minutes ago, Winslow Leach said: Pulp are interesting because, having been around since the early 80s, they were sort of a holdover from an earlier, pre-90s tradition of British upper-working to lower-middle class art rock that the 90s pretty definitively closed off, imo. Cocker is closer to, say, David Sylvian than he is to Damon Albarn. You knew I wouldn’t know who that is but you said it anyway. But aye if you’re furthering the case for JC being the JC of the music world then I see it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tomainley Posted October 19, 2018 Report Share Posted October 19, 2018 14 minutes ago, dentalplan said: He also stole Nardwuar’s hat! The most uncomfortable interview i've ever seen. Such a horrible person Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gabi_says Posted October 19, 2018 Report Share Posted October 19, 2018 22 hours ago, Winslow Leach said: I'd be at a Kraftwerk WH set without a doubt. Can we start freaking out now? No? Too soon? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The60ftOctopus Posted October 19, 2018 Report Share Posted October 19, 2018 8 minutes ago, Gabi_says said: Can we start freaking out now? No? Too soon? Freaking out at a potential clash with Macca/The Cure? Absolutely. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StupidDream Posted October 19, 2018 Report Share Posted October 19, 2018 (edited) 22 minutes ago, eastynh said: I still think the last headliner will be Liam Gallagher. New album will be out and he is already filling arenas and bigish outdoor events. Not that I particularly want him, but I think it's him. Just when we have him written down as a definite sub for the past few weeks... I think consensus was he'd only be headliner if Oasis reunites. To fit in with today's discussion: I think Mumford is more likely as a headliner than Liam Edited October 19, 2018 by StupidDream Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gucci Piggy Posted October 19, 2018 Report Share Posted October 19, 2018 45 minutes ago, dentalplan said: Eh I think Mumfords could easily slip in with the stock-option rotating headline bands. Being the biggest hasn’t that much to do with it, given that the other more-modern British bands who have headlined were like Travis and Stereophonics who started taking non-headline slots shortly after; something that Mumford & Sons don’t seem likely to do at all. Besides, Mumfords at their peak were bigger worldwide than Muse and Arctics have ever been. Kasabian haven’t had chance to join the conveyor belt of British headline bands at Glasto anyway. I think it’s a bit delusional to rule them, Kings of Leon, The Killers and Mumfords out of all future events because they’re not at the peak of their powers anymore. It’s not like bookers are getting behind the idea of new headliners. How big they were when they played in 2013 doesn't really matter, though, I'm talking about their current size. If they'd maintained that status as one of the biggest bands on the planet like Coldplay and Muse did (and Arctic Monkeys in the UK) then I'd be talking differently, but I don't reckon they have. Could they sell out multiple date stadium tours right now like Coldplay and Muse were able to do on the back of every album (like I said, though, I think Muse are maybe past that point now). I didn't rule any of those bands out of headlining future events, I just get the impression from all the previous Glasto lineups that I'm aware of that they wouldn't be looking to bring any of them back unless there weren't any other real options. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Winslow Leach Posted October 19, 2018 Report Share Posted October 19, 2018 (edited) 17 minutes ago, dentalplan said: You knew I wouldn’t know who that is but you said it anyway. But aye if you’re furthering the case for JC being the JC of the music world then I see it. I feel like the Cocker equivalent is a poorly paid Marxist academic somewhere with a series of exceptionally well argued, barely read books on Gramscian hegemony. 16 minutes ago, Gabi_says said: Can we start freaking out now? No? Too soon? Neumunster Abbey is the most Kraftwerk sounding venue I could possibly imagine. Edited October 19, 2018 by Winslow Leach Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
slash's hat Posted October 19, 2018 Report Share Posted October 19, 2018 1 hour ago, GETOFFAMYLAWN said: If it was going to happen it would've been years ago, the new album was a laughing stock. He's on his arse a bit at the moment. Also "credibility" is meaningless bullshit, credible to whom? Just because he's a straight white man making serious faces gives him an edge over Gaga, Taylor Swift and Rihanna? The only credit I accept is whether or not you make bops, and JT is not in the bop trade right now. The same can be said of gagas' previous 2 albums in terms of reception. I have not listened to Timberlakes latest offering tbh, but sounds like he's tried something different. By credible I meant pop stars that are taken more seriously, for whatever reason...against your xfactor types for example that would attract derision if booked as headliners. Maybe credible is the wrong word, but not sure how to term it. It was not detracting from the artists you mention, though I would say bar possibly Rihanna they have all been in similar decline. I acknowledge gagas star is on the rise again due to this film. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jparx Posted October 19, 2018 Report Share Posted October 19, 2018 13 minutes ago, Winslow Leach said: I feel like the Cocker equivalent is a poorly paid Marxist academic somewhere with a series of exceptionally well argued, barely read books on Gramscian hegemony. Neumunster Abbey is the most Kraftwerk sounding venue I could possibly imagine. I think I actually know that person... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dentalplan Posted October 19, 2018 Report Share Posted October 19, 2018 11 minutes ago, Gucci Piggy said: How big they were when they played in 2013 doesn't really matter, though, I'm talking about their current size. If they'd maintained that status as one of the biggest bands on the planet like Coldplay and Muse did (and Arctic Monkeys in the UK) then I'd be talking differently, but I don't reckon they have. Could they sell out multiple date stadium tours right now like Coldplay and Muse were able to do on the back of every album (like I said, though, I think Muse are maybe past that point now). I didn't rule any of those bands out of headlining future events, I just get the impression from all the previous Glasto lineups that I'm aware of that they wouldn't be looking to bring any of them back unless there weren't any other real options. There aren’t really enough stadium bands interested in doing Glasto at any opportunity to limit their regulars to massive stadium headliners. Those three can/could fill stadia despite changing popularity trends because they’re established acts who have crossed generations over a decade or two; Mumfords have barely been around to even begin to compare them. They’ll surely still be headlining festivals on this album and the next so as far as I see, they could easily join the ranks of no-hassle, retainer headliners. Besides if selling out most of an extensive arena tour at a months notice is any indication, they could surely fill a couple of footy grounds six months away. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sasperella Posted October 19, 2018 Report Share Posted October 19, 2018 4 minutes ago, jparx said: I think I actually know that person... I'm pretty sure I'm dating him..... ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hugh Jass Posted October 19, 2018 Report Share Posted October 19, 2018 WH seems the most natural fit for Kraftwerk, but would it be too small for them? They'd pack that place out to ridiculous levels, is the Other more likely? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stuartbert two hats Posted October 19, 2018 Report Share Posted October 19, 2018 49 minutes ago, Quark said: Alex makes cheese I like cheese Ergo I quite like Alex Simple really Hitler did paintings I like paintings Ergo, OF COURSE I DON'T LIKE HITLER, I'M NOT A MONSTER! Simple really :p Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dentalplan Posted October 19, 2018 Report Share Posted October 19, 2018 2 minutes ago, Hugh Jass said: WH seems the most natural fit for Kraftwerk, but would it be too small for them? They'd pack that place out to ridiculous levels, is the Other more likely? I feel like they’d want the money required to trap an Other headliner. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Quark Posted October 19, 2018 Report Share Posted October 19, 2018 4 minutes ago, stuartbert two hats said: Hitler did paintings I like paintings Ergo, OF COURSE I DON'T LIKE HITLER, I'M NOT A MONSTER! Simple really ? You say that. If a reincarnated Dolf rocked up with a quality cheeseboard and a selection of artisan crackers, maybe a decent chutney and some grapes, I'd at least hear him out. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mouseboy11 Posted October 19, 2018 Report Share Posted October 19, 2018 4 minutes ago, dentalplan said: I feel like they’d want the money required to trap an Other headliner. Think you’re right, although I’m not convinced they’d be packing out the Other stage at all Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jparx Posted October 19, 2018 Report Share Posted October 19, 2018 9 minutes ago, Sasperella said: I'm pretty sure I'm dating him..... ? The scenes when it turns out we're talking about the same person... Re: Kraftwerk - Other headliners surely? They're in between WH and Other size, IMO, but they would definitely be too big and expensive for WH. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zoo Music Girl Posted October 19, 2018 Report Share Posted October 19, 2018 1 minute ago, Quark said: You say that. If a reincarnated Dolf rocked up with a quality cheeseboard and a selection of artisan crackers, maybe a decent chutney and some grapes, I'd at least hear him out. You'd at least eat the cheese anyway... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Quark Posted October 19, 2018 Report Share Posted October 19, 2018 7 minutes ago, Hugh Jass said: WH seems the most natural fit for Kraftwerk, but would it be too small for them? They'd pack that place out to ridiculous levels, is the Other more likely? Do you think so? I reckon that might be one of those cases where eFests popularity is projected onto the wider Glastonbury population. Not saying they wouldn't be a draw, but not sure they'd overfill the field Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Quark Posted October 19, 2018 Report Share Posted October 19, 2018 Just now, Zoo Music Girl said: You'd at least eat the cheese anyway... Cheese may well be a weakness of mine, 'tis true Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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