chemica Posted September 11, 2018 Report Share Posted September 11, 2018 The Cure are an interesting one. Nobody is discussing them, but in recent memory, they’ve done Bestival, R&L, BST, IOW. They’ve done everything else, maybe only really leaving them with this left? but at 2/1 you won’t catch me putting any money on them. Plenty of other ‘maybe’ acts as well Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jparx Posted September 11, 2018 Report Share Posted September 11, 2018 I think I'd have them in a similar bracket to Stone Roses in that they have been active doing big shows, but I can't see them headlining Glastonbury at this stage. Would be a nice surprise though! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chemica Posted September 11, 2018 Report Share Posted September 11, 2018 However, if GF have booked two ‘big acts’, I’m sure The Cure could fall into the ‘weaker’ category as some have called it. As they would jump at the chance to play, I’m sure. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rose-Colored Boy Posted September 11, 2018 Report Share Posted September 11, 2018 (edited) I just don't see why they'd book The Cure these days, at all. Great band to those who've heard of them but they're neither relevant or 'classic' enough to appeal to 50% of the people on site, which is the minimum requirement. You'd just be begging for overcrowding elsewhere. Edited September 11, 2018 by Rose-Colored Boy Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hugh Jass Posted September 11, 2018 Report Share Posted September 11, 2018 Strange one because although they're big enough to sell 80,000 BST tickets I'm not sure they're "Glastonbury big", I think Nick Cave suffers similarly. They've done it in the past but it doesn't feel like they'll ever do it again. I'm not sure the average Glastonbury punter has the stomach for a three hour assault from them. Said before that I'd give them three hours on the Other one night and let them go nuts. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jparx Posted September 11, 2018 Report Share Posted September 11, 2018 Where do we reckon these odds have come from then? Someone has put a load of money on them...but why? I agree they're in that weird bracket of "big" but not "big enough", nor new and up and coming and worth taking a chance. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gucci Piggy Posted September 11, 2018 Report Share Posted September 11, 2018 They won't headline but they'd be better than anyone who will headline. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EamerRed Posted September 11, 2018 Report Share Posted September 11, 2018 Yeah The Cure are definitely in a weird category. Don't really love them but if they headlined I'd 100% be watching them. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
neil_clarky Posted September 11, 2018 Report Share Posted September 11, 2018 Paul McCartney has just added a date to his tour on Weds June 26th in Phoenix Arizona... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stuartbert two hats Posted September 11, 2018 Report Share Posted September 11, 2018 I also think The Cure would have people leaving in droves from the Pyramid, but would be too big for Other. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hugh Jass Posted September 11, 2018 Report Share Posted September 11, 2018 2 minutes ago, stuartbert two hats said: I also think The Cure would have people leaving in droves from the Pyramid, but would be too big for Other. Depends who they're up against, stick them up against a huge pop artist (Beyoncé, T. Swizzle) on the Pyramid and you would get a good split. Giving them three hours also means people can dip in and out. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gucci Piggy Posted September 11, 2018 Report Share Posted September 11, 2018 2 minutes ago, Hugh Jass said: Depends who they're up against, stick them up against a huge pop artist (Beyoncé, T. Swizzle) on the Pyramid and you would get a good split. Giving them three hours also means people can dip in and out. I don't think they'd overfill it by any means but I also don't think they'd accept anything but headlining the Pyramid. Don't think I've ever seen them take a non-headline slot anywhere. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stuartbert two hats Posted September 11, 2018 Report Share Posted September 11, 2018 Just now, Hugh Jass said: Depends who they're up against, stick them up against a huge pop artist (Beyoncé, T. Swizzle) on the Pyramid and you would get a good split. Giving them three hours also means people can dip in and out. Yeah, they might get away with Other actually, but I can't see them doing it. Asked years ago why they hardly ever play the UK, Robert Smith replied "it's a big world". A common theme on here is the "artist's ego", something I think is massively overblown - we're generally talking about seasoned, professional career musicians. If an artist can't get booked to headline a large festival anywhere in the world, then their "ego" isn't going to stop them accepting a slot subbing the Pyramid or headlining Other. But if you can decide to saunter round Europe every few year filling arenas in every city, then why would you bother playing second fiddle at an English festival for peanuts? It's the Depeche Mode bind - doing anything else but headlining isn't worth their while and offering either band a headline slot would be a mistake, at least if their are other, better options, which there usually are going by the last few years. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gucci Piggy Posted September 11, 2018 Report Share Posted September 11, 2018 Anyway they'd die on their arse headlining the Pyramid. Last time I saw them this was the setlist. Even my brother who's seen them before and likes them was wondering where the hits were before the third encore. Looks like their recent BST and Bestival setlists were similar, too. Tape Open Kyoto Song A Night Like This The Baby Screams Push In Between Days Sinking Pictures of You Before Three Lovesong Just Like Heaven If Only Tonight We Could Sleep From the Edge of the Deep Green Sea One Hundred Years End Encore: It Can Never Be the Same Burn A Forest (Extended Version) Encore 2: Shake Dog Shake Fascination Street Never Enough Wrong Number Encore 3: Lullaby The Caterpillar Freakshow Friday I'm in Love Boys Don't Cry Close to Me Why Can't I Be You? Three Imaginary Boys 10:15 Saturday Night Killing an Arab Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CaledonianGonzo Posted September 11, 2018 Report Share Posted September 11, 2018 Isn't there Smith-Eavis beef that more or less rules them out anyway? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gucci Piggy Posted September 11, 2018 Report Share Posted September 11, 2018 I think he said they were naff the last time they played or something but I can never find it when I look for it so idk. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fightoffyour Posted September 11, 2018 Report Share Posted September 11, 2018 1 minute ago, CaledonianGonzo said: Isn't there Smith-Eavis beef that more or less rules them out anyway? This also rules Morrissey out. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stuartbert two hats Posted September 11, 2018 Report Share Posted September 11, 2018 1 minute ago, Gucci Piggy said: Anyway they'd die on their arse headlining the Pyramid. Last time I saw them this was the setlist. Even my brother who's seen them before and likes them was wondering where the hits were before the third encore. Looks like their recent BST and Bestival setlists were similar, too. Tape Open Kyoto Song A Night Like This The Baby Screams Push In Between Days Sinking Pictures of You Before Three Lovesong Just Like Heaven If Only Tonight We Could Sleep From the Edge of the Deep Green Sea One Hundred Years End Encore: It Can Never Be the Same Burn A Forest (Extended Version) Encore 2: Shake Dog Shake Fascination Street Never Enough Wrong Number Encore 3: Lullaby The Caterpillar Freakshow Friday I'm in Love Boys Don't Cry Close to Me Why Can't I Be You? Three Imaginary Boys 10:15 Saturday Night Killing an Arab They seem to like playing those heavy, dreary songs with no space and very little songcraft in them, which is a shame. I saw them in the MEN on that last tour and found it pretty maddening when I realised I couldn't skip tracks like at home. Then Lullaby came on and I remembered that they can write some great songs and sometimes know how to use space. Far too many dirges for me though, that shit belongs on Oxylers. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gucci Piggy Posted September 11, 2018 Report Share Posted September 11, 2018 I think Morrissey rules himself out these days. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CaledonianGonzo Posted September 11, 2018 Report Share Posted September 11, 2018 Morrissey's never been one for beef. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stuartbert two hats Posted September 11, 2018 Report Share Posted September 11, 2018 3 minutes ago, CaledonianGonzo said: Isn't there Smith-Eavis beef that more or less rules them out anyway? Regarding "beefs", I'd also see my comment on performer's "egos". Eavis though they weren't good enough to headline. That's not a beef, that's booking policy. The likes of Morrissey might boycott the farm, but I don't think the festival holds grudges (E.g James and The Fall did come back in the end). We're talking about professionals here. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fatyeti24 Posted September 11, 2018 Report Share Posted September 11, 2018 13 minutes ago, Gucci Piggy said: Anyway they'd die on their arse headlining the Pyramid. Last time I saw them this was the setlist. Even my brother who's seen them before and likes them was wondering where the hits were before the third encore. Looks like their recent BST and Bestival setlists were similar, too. Three encores! Fucking three! That's reason enough to ban them from appearing. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gucci Piggy Posted September 11, 2018 Report Share Posted September 11, 2018 5 minutes ago, fatyeti24 said: Three encores! Fucking three! That's reason enough to ban them from appearing. Weird init. More songs in the encores than the main set. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
evilduck Posted September 11, 2018 Report Share Posted September 11, 2018 Their weird, overly-long set actually went down well at Reading from what I can remember, so maybe theres a chance it could work on the Pyramid. I'm a big fan though and I always love their 3 hour sets, though I can understand most people don't! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gucci Piggy Posted September 11, 2018 Report Share Posted September 11, 2018 9 minutes ago, evilduck said: Their weird, overly-long set actually went down well at Reading from what I can remember, so maybe theres a chance it could work on the Pyramid. I'm a big fan though and I always love their 3 hour sets, though I can understand most people don't! That setlist is a bit more friendly, though, with the hits better spread through the show. I was at the equivalent Leeds show and it's still one of my favourite gigs ever, but I dunno how well it went down with the whole crowd (I know the crowd was pretty tiny, though). My friends who weren't already Cure fans didn't enjoy it, although we were all 16 at the time so probably not who it was really aimed at. Weird booking, thinking about it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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