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take sex on fire and use somebody off that album and their career earnings plummet, their direction after that album would be totally different too.

they are a very awkward sized band to ever fit into a Glastonbury line up again because of those 2 songs like a mad Tetris piece with weird arms 

 

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6 hours ago, HeyPorter said:

 

They had such a clear demographic though and then massively changed it and it died....

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9 hours ago, jyoung said:

Why?

It’s been mentioned above, but I just think they’re too big to be anything but a headliner and there’s just much better options out there now. 
 

Returning headliners tend to be British, with The Killers being the obvious recent outlier (as has been mentioned). 
 

Who knows I may be wrong but I’d say Coldplay, AM, Kasabian, Blur and Muse are all ahead of them in the returning bands queue. 

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16 minutes ago, nikkic said:

Who knows I may be wrong but I’d say Coldplay, AM, Kasabian, Blur and Muse are all ahead of them in the returning bands queue. 

Billy Banjo and the lads skipping ahead of the queue to truly terrify us. 

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Think the comparison with The Killers misses a pretty important thing: The Killers had a redemption arc.

They got fucked over in 2007, and that John Peel secret slot sealed the deal for a second round - not only because it took the roof off, but they showed humility and charm. They haven’t had a fresh hit in the 2010s, sure, but they stayed in rotation, still play stadiums, all the Hot Fuss tunes continually rack up big numbers on streaming and airplay and what have you.

KoL are openly derided, and their MOR Americana is very dated compared to what’s contemporary now. Save for a comeback that washes away the bad aftertaste of everything that came after Use Somebody, you don’t see them winning it back. A wave of moans when Reading & Leeds stuck them on as headliners in 2018 says it all.

Stereophonics comparison is a good one. I doubt KoL ever play the farm again. But I wouldn’t say they’d automatically walk into a headline position, even in a duff year.

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25 minutes ago, Ddiamondd said:

A wave of moans when Reading & Leeds stuck them on as headliners in 2018 says it all.

The fact that they even did get chosen to headline when average year of birth for R+L goers will have been this century says it all, really. Still a huge band and would be more appreciated by the crowd at Glastonbury, where the average age is thirtysomething and the clientele is more of a mirror to the general British public.

There’s no chance Kings of Leon take lower than headline. They’d pack it in if things got that bad.

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One thing that contradicts my own point and a reason they would perhaps accept a lower slot, is that they seem to “get” the festival. 
 

They’ve risen through the ranks and understand the cultural significance of Glasto, so maybe they’d be inclined to take a lower slot. 

It would probably have to be a secret set a la The Killers. 
 

 

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Fwiw, I don't mean now. I could see them subbing in time.

Could you reasonably say KoL 15-20 years detached from their career peak are any bigger than Katy Perry, Aerosmith, New Order '05 or any of the banner non-headliners over time? Even with big singalongs and one mega-selling LP in the bag, I don't think so.

Overwhelming likelihood is both parties just won't bother though.

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2 hours ago, dentalplan said:

There’s no chance Kings of Leon take lower than headline. They’d pack it in if things got that bad.

You say that, but....

On 9/8/2016 at 7:19 AM, brettredmayne said:

last tour think there played at St James Park which sounds like a huge venue but it was a reduced capacity. 

Tickets were pretty much been given away near the day and don't think the attendance was more then 25 thousand. 

Shows how far the band have dropped since 3 years before there were selling out the stadium of light with 50 thousand. 

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Why does a half-sold stadium in the North East refute that they wouldn’t accept less than headline? Are you just trying to show me that they’ve dropped off? Because I do understand that, but it’s not to the extent that they’d be anything other than a headliner if playing Glastonbury.

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I think you're saying slightly conflicting things essentially.

Yeah, it's a fractional chance they'd play the fest again and not headline. Agreed. But also if you see 'subbing Glastonbury in 2026' and/or other measures of decline as such a bad fall from grace that they would fold out of shame, then things have already got that bad – and yet they're not packing it in.

We're coming from the same place, as they're not in line for the fest as it stands. But I see it as plausible they'd play Glasto at some stage in the 2020s and not walk into headlining. I guess I don't see it as an absolute write-off in the same way as you do I suppose?

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I think the fact that they’re one of the last rock/guitar bands to really make it big before people stopped largely giving a shit about that type of music is probably gonna keep them at headliner size for a while longer than they probably deserve. Can’t think of many rock bands since who’ve had hits nearly half as big as those two from OBTN, and so they’re just a perfect easy booking for a festival without a rock headliner. Don’t see Glastonbury going that way, but then I said the same about The Killers, so who knows? In a shit year for touring headliners, maybe they’ll merit a call. I really doubt it though, and think they just won’t play again.

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Can you imagine the money a Bon Jovi / Kings of Leon double-headliner tour would rake in worldwide. It'd be a match musically and they'd just saunter around, pulling out the big woah-oh anthems, mopping up GDP levels of moolah.

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Having to follow Living On A Prayer could maybe provoke a moment of realisation for greek the beak about whether or not his own tunes are the bangers he claims them to be.

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If I'd headlined in the past and The Fratellis supported me I'd sooner pack it all in than sub.

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