Lineup 2018

[Steve1000]

Just now, Chinaski_ said:

They should book Arcade Fire then. 

Or keep their booking policy the same and book Florence and Paramore. 

[Guest]

destroyed by mattymooz

[dentalplan]

Just now, throstle said:

On the 'moments' section. Ironically, as a result of me being blocked I couldn't see half of the thread. 

Did you get blocked for telling her to make you a sandwich?

[Chinaski_]

1 minute ago, Steve1000 said:

Or keep their booking policy the same and book Florence and Paramore. 

Why are they the only acts with females in who can headline then? 

[Gucci Piggy]

Foo Fighters? No, they should book Radiohead. Only the best option is allowed.

[dentalplan]

Just now, Chinaski_ said:

Why are they the only acts with females in who can headline then? 

Because of years of booking with no focus on equality?

[justanothername]

Fun fact: The only decent acts added to the Download line up today are fronted by women. 

Edited January 23, 2018 by justanothername

[throstle]

Just now, dentalplan said:

Did you get blocked for telling her to make you a sandwich?

I think I said her political/social views are as shite as her music. I take it by the blocking that she disagreed.

[Gucci Piggy]

2 minutes ago, Chinaski_ said:

Why are they the only acts with females in who can headline then? 

Probably something to do with generations of males being encouraged to take up guitar music and females being discouraged and not being given anywhere near as many opportunities and therefore struggling to become headliners at the UK's biggest predominantly guitar music festival.

[Chinaski_]

Just now, dentalplan said:

Because of years of booking with no focus on equality?

Or by squeezing out certain bands to focus on a small pool? You can't have Florence and Paramore headlining every year, so instead of moaning, maybe ask why they're not booking Arcade Fire? 

[Steve1000]

@Chinaski_ Are you anti-female bands being deliberately booked or just anti-bands you don't like being booked?

[Steve1000]

Just now, Chinaski_ said:

Or by squeezing out certain bands to focus on a small pool? You can't have Florence and Paramore headlining every year, so instead of moaning, maybe ask why they're not booking Arcade Fire? 

That would make it three then. Any other suggestions?

[justanothername]

22 minutes ago, Chinaski_ said:

 a line up with 50 Paramore types would be the shit.

FIFY

After Laughter was packed full of bangers

[Gucci Piggy]

1 minute ago, Chinaski_ said:

Or by squeezing out certain bands to focus on a small pool? You can't have Florence and Paramore headlining every year, so instead of moaning, maybe ask why they're not booking Arcade Fire? 

What point are you actually trying to make with Arcade Fire? They're not that suited to the festival, but there are two female fronted bands who are perfectly suited and giving headline slots to male fronted bands who are in a worse position to headline makes no sense.

[the wonderwhy]

#whynotarcadefire 

[Chinaski_]

Just now, Steve1000 said:

@Chinaski_ Are you anti-female bands being deliberately booked or just anti-bands you don't like being booked?

No I said they should book the best bands available. What I don't agree with is just booking someone so you can say "look at us, aren't we great we tick boxes". If they book a band with a female, then i don't see why it needs to become an issue and celebrated, rather than them just being another band booked. 

[Fast Drones]

6 minutes ago, justanothername said:

Fun fact: The only decent acts added to the Download line up today are fronted by women. 

extra fun fact: they'll be the only women at download 

[Edduk98]

11 minutes ago, Bandit Tom said:

Thew this together as a quick what if we really did get 2 main stages poster, please forgive the laziness.

Hey dude, looks pretty cool! the sat and sun looks like it would be my fav! If this was the legit line up, id be happy  

[Chinaski_]

4 minutes ago, Gucci Piggy said:

What point are you actually trying to make with Arcade Fire? They're not that suited to the festival, but there are two female fronted bands who are perfectly suited and giving headline slots to male fronted bands who are in a worse position to headline makes no sense.

So who are suited to the festival then? 

[Chinaski_]

5 minutes ago, justanothername said:

FIFY

After Laughter was packed full of bangers

Lol no

[the wonderwhy]

2 minutes ago, Chinaski_ said:

No I said they should book the best bands available. What I don't agree with is just booking someone so you can say "look at us, aren't we great we tick boxes". If they book a band with a female, then i don't see why it needs to become an issue and celebrated, rather than them just being another band booked. 

Your assumption that they'd only book bands with women in 'just to tick boxes' is part of the problem 

[Gucci Piggy]

1 minute ago, Chinaski_ said:

No I said they should book the best bands available. What I don't agree with is just booking someone so you can say "look at us, aren't we great we tick boxes". If they book a band with a female, then i don't see why it needs to become an issue and celebrated, rather than them just being another band booked. 

Man a huge reason as to why 90% of the acts big enough for those top slots are mostly all-male is because of females not being encouraged into what is seen as a masculine hobby in playing the guitar/drums or being into rock music, whereas males are encouraged into this. This ranges from kids' parents all the way to major festivals. A festival like R&L actively giving slots to female acts who are suitable and deserving over all-male acts is a start in changing these attitudes and addressing the balance. No one is saying they should just start booking any old females, but that they should be making a conscious effort to book some more and try to address the balance.

[dentalplan]

10 minutes ago, throstle said:

I think I said her political/social views are as shite as her music. I take it by the blocking that she disagreed.

The ‘standing up for vilified asylum seekers’ thing?

[Chinaski_]

7 minutes ago, Steve1000 said:

That would make it three then. Any other suggestions?

Maybe you should name some since you're the one complaining. 

[Steve1000]

2 minutes ago, Chinaski_ said:

So who are suited to the festival then? 

 

16 minutes ago, Mattymooz said:

When have they gone to book Ellie or Adele? 

Tbh after halsey last year Id love to see Banks/Lorde/FKA Twigs etc. Plus more people like Sigrid and Off Bloom is fine by me. Charli XCX/SOPHIE or really any PC artists would also be great.

More electronic wise there are loads: Mollie Collins, Alison Wonderland, Rezz etc. would all be great bookings.

Female hiphop is in a pretty great place nowadays too. Ray BLK, Little Simz, Lady Leshurr would all get good receptions (plus I would love a Missy Elliot appearance tbh)

In terms of bands, Against the current, Anteros, Wolf Alice, Fickle Friends, Black Honey, HAIM, Creeper, Halestorm, The Xx, CHVRCHES, PVRIS, Yonaka, Oh Wonder, Phantogram, Tonight Alive, Pale Waves and Marmozets. Not to mention potential headlines from Florence and Paramore.

Heck, even someome like Declan Mckenna who has a female drummer and guitarist would be a good booking that also encourages diversity.