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5 minutes ago, FloorFiller said:

Yup, the BBC is recording for television which they specialise in. The Coachella stream is just that - a stream that will be watched on the internet. Really no point in comparing the two.

Only reason I brought up the comparison was because of people complaining of not hear Billie vocals very well, but a few artists are the same where the mix is way more for the backing track/music than the live vocals/crowd. 

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Watched Billie’s livestream at Coachella and I would honestly prefer her to actually sing like in Your Power and Happier Than Ever because it sounds good but it’s awful when there’s a backing track. I’m not 100% but not sure it’s just the mixing on the vocals I actually think Billie mimed some of her set (see Bury A Friend and You Should See Me In A Crown). Pretty poor by Billie to be honest and glad I didn’t buy tickets for the UK shows as I’d be pretty pissed if I had. Watched Billie Eilish at Glastonbury 2019 and we walked off because we couldn’t hear her, thought it was an Other Stage problem but thinking it might just be a Billie problem. 

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1 hour ago, FloorFiller said:

Yup, the BBC is recording for television which they specialise in. The Coachella stream is just that - a stream that will be watched on the internet. Really no point in comparing the two.

Of course that’s true to an extent, but this isn’t the noughties. Netflix/Amazon/Apple TV are all essentially internet streams. People aren’t huddled round their laptops watching it on dialup, it plays on my TV through YouTube like it would on any TV channel in just as high a picture quality, so there is merit in discussing why the sound isn’t up to the same standard.

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Lots of factors I guess, microphones to pick up the crowd and the mixing that then affects it.

I was at the England v Ukraine Euros QF in Rome last year and In person the atmosphere was amazing, despite the reduced crowd, both sets of fans were singing their heads off all match, but then watching the highlights on TV when I got a chance none of that comes across on the footage, it sounds a bit like the Highbury Library, TV footage is not necessarily an accurate representation of what happened in reality, lots factors affect what ends up coming out of your tv speakers.

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16 minutes ago, Deaf Nobby Burton said:

Of course that’s true to an extent, but this isn’t the noughties. Netflix/Amazon/Apple TV are all essentially internet streams. People aren’t huddled round their laptops watching it on dialup, it plays on my TV through YouTube like it would on any TV channel in just as high a picture quality, so there is merit in discussing why the sound isn’t up to the same standard.

Recording infrastructure will affect the sound way more than what speakers you listen to it through. You can have the best speakers in the world but if the sound was recorded in a phone from 2003, it will still sound like it was recorded in a phone from 2003.

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10 minutes ago, Smeble said:

Recording infrastructure will affect the sound way more than what speakers you listen to it through. You can have the best speakers in the world but if the sound was recorded in a phone from 2003, it will still sound like it was recorded in a phone from 2003.

Yeah I agree, my point was more that just because it’s being aired on YouTube that shouldn’t necessarily automatically mean it’s got to be of a lower quality, because that’s how we consume an awful lot of our media now. If they’re going to the trouble of broadcasting it in the first place I would’ve thought they’d want to present the best version of it they can.

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1 hour ago, NoBuses said:

 

 

Here's one from the crowd to compare, what are the random noises come through haha

I mean she certainly sounds better but the crowd is still not exactly the Camp Nou during El Classico is it. No way you’d be able to have a conversation at normal speaking volume stood that close to the stage during a Pyramid headline show. 

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1 hour ago, Deaf Nobby Burton said:

Yeah I agree, my point was more that just because it’s being aired on YouTube that shouldn’t necessarily automatically mean it’s got to be of a lower quality, because that’s how we consume an awful lot of our media now. If they’re going to the trouble of broadcasting it in the first place I would’ve thought they’d want to present the best version of it they can.

Yeah but it’s never going to match the production of someone like the BBC, there will be minimum standards for both media, the standard for TV will be higher than for YouTube.

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Jesus flicking between the 3 feeds. What an absolute load of shite. Why can't they get the sound right for vox? 

No atmosphere at all. How hard is it to create some atmosphere on film? Fuck me this is depressing. 

The interviews are excruciating too. 

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24 minutes ago, danbailey80 said:

Jesus flicking between the 3 feeds. What an absolute load of shite. Why can't they get the sound right for vox? 

No atmosphere at all. How hard is it to create some atmosphere on film? Fuck me this is depressing. 

The interviews are excruciating too. 

You sure youre not one of the people complaining on the chat box in the streams? You sure sound like one of them.

 

 

lol at wanting to put Stromae on a tiny stage.

 

hey, still alive and kicking. Its day 3 and despite some hiccups over the weekend its still been plenty good. Oh yeah and what other fest can get a surprise kpop reunion  that ends up trending higher than the festival itself. 🤷🏻‍♂️🤘🏻👋🏻

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Just now, CanadianGuy said:

This is the biggest singalong in her setlist and there's almost no one singing.. It's definitely not just the audio on the stream, it's the Coachella crowd itself

They’re probably all too busy filming the event on their phones to sing along

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30 minutes ago, Muppetmark said:

He's doing Wembley arena next year. Would have thought he was too big for silver Hayes. I'm expecting him to pop up in 23. 

Stromae is the type to be lowballed at glasto. He played silver hayes last time I think? I don’t think he’d get a very large slot at all.

Plus these smaller stages are starting to wrangle much larger bookings as time goes on.

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9 minutes ago, Matt42 said:

Stromae is the type to be lowballed at glasto. He played silver hayes last time I think? I don’t think he’d get a very large slot at all.

Plus these smaller stages are starting to wrangle much larger bookings as time goes on.

He played kokos on the tour just before glasto. Since then he's done hammersmith apollo and now wembley arena. Thats a big jump.

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1 minute ago, Muppetmark said:

He played kokos on the tour just before glasto. Since then he's done hammersmith apollo and now wembley arena. Thats a big jump.

Has he had any material or hit album since he last played? I still think at a festival like Glastonbury he isn’t in a position to be demanding a very high slot at all. 

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12 minutes ago, Matt42 said:

Has he had any material or hit album since he last played? I still think at a festival like Glastonbury he isn’t in a position to be demanding a very high slot at all. 

New album, first one since 2013

2 songs from the album with 50M+ on Spotify, the rest of the songs from it have minimum 5M

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