mcshed Posted August 17, 2021 Report Share Posted August 17, 2021 12 minutes ago, Hugh Jass said: Not a huge fan of Roguelikes (still never got past the first level on Demon Souls) But Demons Souls isn't a roguelike? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hugh Jass Posted August 17, 2021 Report Share Posted August 17, 2021 2 minutes ago, mcshed said: But Demons Souls isn't a roguelike? Well, no it isn't, but it has that similar "ridiculously hard, die then go back to the start over and over" vibe that annoys me. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jump Posted August 17, 2021 Report Share Posted August 17, 2021 (edited) 7 minutes ago, mcshed said: But Demons Souls isn't a roguelike? I'm not so sure, it's not a 2D indie which is the typical roguelike but if someone said it's a 3D roguelike I'd say it's an accurate enough description. I got Hades when I saw it on sale and it was getting GOTY awards, it's a good game and the controls are silky but I can't imagine playing it for 100+ hours like other have done to get all the endings and whatnot. Edited August 17, 2021 by jump Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mcshed Posted August 17, 2021 Report Share Posted August 17, 2021 Just now, jump said: I'm not so sure, it's not a 2D indie which is the typical roguelike but if someone said it's a 3D roguelike I'd say it's an accurate enough description. It doesn't change at all, the whole point of the Soulslike games is you do the same think over and over learning exactly how to deal with everything. Roguelikes are procedurally generated so you explore a different map every time you try. Something like Returnal is a 3D roguelike. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jump Posted August 17, 2021 Report Share Posted August 17, 2021 7 minutes ago, mcshed said: It doesn't change at all, the whole point of the Soulslike games is you do the same think over and over learning exactly how to deal with everything. Roguelikes are procedurally generated so you explore a different map every time you try. Something like Returnal is a 3D roguelike. There's more to roguelikes than just random dungeons and it shares alot of the same DNA. Like I said I think it's accurate enough even if it's not highly accurate. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mcshed Posted August 17, 2021 Report Share Posted August 17, 2021 6 minutes ago, jump said: There's more to roguelikes than just random dungeons and it shares alot of the same DNA. Like I said I think it's accurate enough even if it's not highly accurate. Obviously a words meaning is often imprecise but I consider the changing nature of the challenge as a fundamental part of what makes a roguelike a roguelike and even purists who refer to a lot of the modern roguelikes as roguelites or roguelike-likes are pretty consistent on requiring randomness in the challenge. What do you think makes a roguelike, difficulty? Permadeath? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jump Posted August 17, 2021 Report Share Posted August 17, 2021 1 minute ago, mcshed said: What do you think makes a roguelike, difficulty? Permadeath? Honestly 2D and indie are the first two that come to my mind. lol Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
corytreutel1309 Posted August 17, 2021 Report Share Posted August 17, 2021 lol. really? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mcshed Posted August 17, 2021 Report Share Posted August 17, 2021 3 minutes ago, jump said: Honestly 2D and indie are the first two that come to my mind. lol http://www.gamesetwatch.com/2009/12/column_play_the_berlin_interpr.php Is an article from back in 2009 using the 2008 Berlin Interpretation of a roguelike to compare some games and the second comment is someone applying the same criteria to Demons Souls and getting a score of 30 making 1 point more of roguelike than Diablo but 3 points less than Toejam & Earl. Make of that what you will. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hugh Jass Posted August 17, 2021 Report Share Posted August 17, 2021 Feels like I've started something here that didn't need to be started. Whatever you call them - they are bloody annoying! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mcshed Posted August 17, 2021 Report Share Posted August 17, 2021 3 minutes ago, Hugh Jass said: Feels like I've started something here that didn't need to be started. Whatever you call them - they are bloody annoying! It's absolutely my fault, kids go back to school tomorrow so hopefully I'll be less likely to engage in this sort of nonsense thereafter. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jump Posted August 17, 2021 Report Share Posted August 17, 2021 30 minutes ago, corytreutel1309 said: lol. really? Oh no I've lost my video game street cred! Now the other kids will bully me and my inferior knowledge. It's time for me to go back to playing Angry Birds and Call Of Duty. 😜 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dan R Posted August 17, 2021 Report Share Posted August 17, 2021 2 hours ago, Hugh Jass said: Started Hades on Gamepass last night. Not a huge fan of Roguelikes (still never got past the first level on Demon Souls) but thought I'd give it a go seeing as it was raved about last year. Early impressions are decent, but I can see myself getting bored quickly if it's just the same few rooms over and over again. Im not a fan of roguelikes but the narrative in hades keeps things engaging much longer than I expected. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hugh Jass Posted August 17, 2021 Report Share Posted August 17, 2021 2 hours ago, jump said: Oh no I've lost my video game street cred! Now the other kids will bully me and my inferior knowledge. It's time for me to go back to playing Angry Birds and Call Of Duty. 😜 Weird that "lol really?" was that guy's first and only post on eFests. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Nal Posted August 17, 2021 Report Share Posted August 17, 2021 I got bored with Hades after an hour. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kaosmark2 Posted August 17, 2021 Report Share Posted August 17, 2021 As someone who's put several hundred hours into Slay the Spire over the last year and a half, I'd happily say that what keeps me coming back is the combination of variance and familiarity. You have to strategise against the different challenges, but which of them you get is randomised, and the tools you get offered are randomised. Strategy one rather than action-based though, so quite different from Hades and others. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jump Posted August 17, 2021 Report Share Posted August 17, 2021 4 hours ago, Hugh Jass said: Weird that "lol really?" was that guy's first and only post on eFests. He probably knew he could never come up with a post as witty as that again and quit whilst he was on top. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hugh Jass Posted August 17, 2021 Report Share Posted August 17, 2021 Twelve Minutes launches on Gamepass this week and looks interesting. Will certainly give it a try. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tartan_Glasto Posted August 18, 2021 Report Share Posted August 18, 2021 22 hours ago, The Nal said: I got bored with Hades after an hour. I really want to play it cause I've heard so many good things, but I fear I would be the same... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hugh Jass Posted August 18, 2021 Report Share Posted August 18, 2021 15 minutes ago, Tartan_Glasto said: I really want to play it cause I've heard so many good things, but I fear I would be the same... I'm really starting to enjoy it. Once you get to grips with the various mechanisms it becomes really addictive in a "one more run" kind of way. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gromite Posted August 19, 2021 Report Share Posted August 19, 2021 Anyone played Ghosts of Tsushima? Tempted to pick it up with the PS5 update Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hugh Jass Posted August 19, 2021 Report Share Posted August 19, 2021 4 hours ago, Gromite said: Anyone played Ghosts of Tsushima? Tempted to pick it up with the PS5 update Played it on PS4 when it came out last year. Loved it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Uncle Liam Posted August 20, 2021 Report Share Posted August 20, 2021 Hello everyone! First time posting in a while. I got both the PS5 and Series X. But I'm so busy that the reason I got the PS5, outstanding single player and Street Fighter, has been limited Street Fighter, and games I can play without thinking about anything on the Xbox (Forza, FIFA, Street Fighter 30th anniversary). After the hellish school year that awaits me concludes, and I've got my dissertation for my MSc done, then I'll get stuck into these games. Or another Interpol tour. One or the other. Anybody want to play some Street Fighter V on the Xbox or piss around on Forza Coreinho is the tag on both Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kalopsia Posted August 25, 2021 Report Share Posted August 25, 2021 Apparently Argos are dropping more Xbox Series X stock this week (potentially today) keeping my fingers crossed. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hugh Jass Posted August 25, 2021 Report Share Posted August 25, 2021 45 attempts into Hades and still not cleared it. Got to the final boss a few times and even managed to whittle his health down to nothing... only for the cheap-ass motherfucker to just get back up with a full bar! Bullshit! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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