Big Vern Posted March 27, 2015 Report Share Posted March 27, 2015 Guessing that you didn't grow up with these maestros in the top 10. there were of course the exception to the rule! Although Chubby Checker and the Fat Boys was a choon! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mardy Posted March 27, 2015 Report Share Posted March 27, 2015 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CaledonianGonzo Posted March 27, 2015 Report Share Posted March 27, 2015 If this is watered down and chart friendly then....well....I just....I can't even...... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big Vern Posted March 27, 2015 Report Share Posted March 27, 2015 Clearly not everything he has done is. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CaledonianGonzo Posted March 27, 2015 Report Share Posted March 27, 2015 To Pimp A Butterfly is currently the US number one album. I must admit I've not listened to it enough to have a firm opinion if it, but I know that King Kunta is an absolute mother of a tune, and The Blacker The Berry isn't far behind it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Amy Lawn Posted March 27, 2015 Report Share Posted March 27, 2015 "Modern hip-hop's rubbish" Alright, course it is... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jonodillieono Posted March 27, 2015 Report Share Posted March 27, 2015 "modern hip-hop is rubbish" Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tuna Posted March 27, 2015 Report Share Posted March 27, 2015 Yeah sorry using Pitchfork is an obselete barometer. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FloorFiller Posted March 27, 2015 Report Share Posted March 27, 2015 Yeah sorry using Pitchfork is an obselete barometer. yeah but... 10.0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scrippit Posted March 28, 2015 Report Share Posted March 28, 2015 (edited) Yeah sorry using Pitchfork is an obselete barometer. How about using anydecentmusic.com? It does at least aggregate most critical results and looks like modern hip hop is doing rather well in their all time results (only a few years tbh!)...Their all time top ten: 9.2 Kendrick Lamar To Pimp A Butterfly 9.1 D'Angelo And The Vanguard Black Messiah 8.9 Sufjan Stevens Carrie & Lowell 8.9 Frank Ocean Channel Orange 8.9 Anaïs Mitchell Hadestown 8.8 Kanye West My Beautiful Dark Twisted Fantasy 8.8 Deafheaven Sunbather 8.7 Sleater-Kinney No Cities To Love 8.7 PJ Harvey Let England Shake 8.7 My Bloody Valentine mbv Edited March 28, 2015 by scrippit Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big Vern Posted March 28, 2015 Report Share Posted March 28, 2015 Not sure about that. Listen to some of the best hip-hop albums in the last few years like RTJ, Danny Brown, Ratking, Kendrick, clipping, Odd Future's various members and Kanye and then compare them to lots of the 'Golden Age' era artists and if anything, the old stuff sounds a lot tamer. and then there is Death Grips. I agree, just look at this old tame stuff Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Winslow Leach Posted March 28, 2015 Report Share Posted March 28, 2015 I agree, just look at this old tame stuff Look, it's very simple. You said 'the modern stuff' is tamer and more mainstream and made no qualifications to the brevity of that statement. That's clearly a ludicrous oversimplification of a diverse and wide-ranging genre. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big Vern Posted March 28, 2015 Report Share Posted March 28, 2015 Look, it's very simple. You said 'the modern stuff' is tamer and more mainstream and made no qualifications to the brevity of that statement. That's clearly a ludicrous oversimplification of a diverse and wide-ranging genre. Modern stuff is definitely more mainstream and I'll over simplify as much as I like. New hip hop is tame and mainstream, old stuff is better and raw. I won't hear any more from you on the subject. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dentalplan Posted March 28, 2015 Report Share Posted March 28, 2015 (edited) There is a lot more shit mainstream hip hop now made especially for the clubs now though, isn't there? Let's not pretend Kendrick and Kanye and Death Grips are representative of the whole genre of hip hop. Edited March 28, 2015 by dentalplan Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt42 Posted March 28, 2015 Report Share Posted March 28, 2015 Just thought I'd ask, do you reckon Kanye's new album is likely to be out by glastonbury? Dunno I'd probably prefer if we got new material before the set... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Winslow Leach Posted March 28, 2015 Report Share Posted March 28, 2015 There is a lot more shit mainstream hip hop now made especially for the clubs now though, isn't there? Let's not pretend Kendrick and Kanye and Death Grips are representative of the whole genre of hip hop. Never said they were. There's a lot of shit hip-hop. There's a lot of shit rock. There's a lot of shit dance. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mouseboy11 Posted March 28, 2015 Report Share Posted March 28, 2015 If this is watered down and chart friendly then....well....I just....I can't even...... Haha bloody hell, forgot about this video. Did Kanye make it himself in Gary's Mod? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dentalplan Posted March 28, 2015 Report Share Posted March 28, 2015 Never said they were. There's a lot of shit hip-hop. There's a lot of shit rock. There's a lot of shit dance. Of course there is. People happily moan about that all the time. 100% of these arguments are put forward by people that have given up actively seeking out the good stuff and base their judgement on what's at the forefront so I can sort of see why it's said but I also know why it's best to disregard the argument as well. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big Vern Posted March 28, 2015 Report Share Posted March 28, 2015 Lols. Actually, I'd like to congratulate you on some fine trolling. Genre specific trolling also. Bravo. My favourite bit was how you won the argument forever with your debating skills and use of examples to prove your point (two examples in the face of many examples opposing your view). I mean, listen to this, its so weak and tame. That De La Soul sound is so much more wild and rugged! De La Soul were pioneers of a new breed of hip hop at the time. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
klipper Posted March 28, 2015 Report Share Posted March 28, 2015 Lols. Actually, I'd like to congratulate you on some fine trolling. Genre specific trolling also. Bravo. My favourite bit was how you won the argument forever with your debating skills and use of examples to prove your point (two examples in the face of many examples opposing your view). I mean, listen to this, its so weak and tame. That De La Soul sound is so much more wild and rugged! To be fair tyler the creator isn't the best example of modern hip-hop, he's pretty shit live and other than being quite funny is nothing that special, he's eminem with added doses of controversy and some cooler beats. His mate on the other hand: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sloseph Posted March 28, 2015 Report Share Posted March 28, 2015 (edited) Sorry I'm a bit drunk but if we're talking good modern hip hop you can't just look at what's in the charts, you can't say modern hip hop is mild when you only look at what is selling get your ears around b dolan Edited March 28, 2015 by sloseph Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sloseph Posted March 28, 2015 Report Share Posted March 28, 2015 (edited) Also see Sage Francis Edited March 28, 2015 by sloseph Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
klipper Posted March 29, 2015 Report Share Posted March 29, 2015 drunk hip-hop = best hip-hop Yeezus (the album) requires a bit of something else though. As does death grips (majorly). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Winslow Leach Posted March 29, 2015 Report Share Posted March 29, 2015 Haven't listened to Sage Francis, I'll check that out. I love how this thread has turned into a hip-hop equivalent of the house music thread, everyone just sharing whatever they happen to be loving at the time. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SirDaniel Posted March 29, 2015 Report Share Posted March 29, 2015 (edited) Danny Brown repping the soft, modern shit you can enjoy with a cuppa and your nan. Just to be on topic, what are people thinking about special guests? Is Kanye gonna bring some mates with him or will he want his set to be all about him? Edited March 29, 2015 by SirDaniel Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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