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20 hours ago, bigcharlie65 said:

I'm pissed off with all the Slipknot rumours

Foals // Tame Impala // Tyler The Creator

Skepta // Milky Chance

R1D Lauv //FR Metronomy

Drake // The Streets // Wolf Alice

Bombay Bicycle Club  // Rex orange county

R1D Chase & States //FR Gang Of Youths 

The Killers // Vampire Weekend //Gerry Cinammon

Skrillex // Brockhampton

R1D Gorgon City // FR Cosmo Pyke

Can't be asked with the other stages

You forgot Cage the Elephant.

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SLIPKNOT, BRING ME THE HORIZON, Tyler the Creator, All Time Low, Bullet For My Valentine, Denzel Curry
R1: Rex Orange County, Everything Everything, Tom Grennan, Mahalia, Headie One
Da: DJ EZ // LU: The All-American Rejects // FR: Drenge // 1xtra: D-Block Europe

DRAKE, Two Door Cinema Club, Halsey, Lizzo, Krept & Konan, Sam Fender
R1: Marshmello, Yungblud, Neck Deep, Ella Mai, Lil Tecca
Da: Bicep LIVE // Pit: Skindred // FR: Metronomy // 1xtra: Mist

THE KILLERS, Courteeners, Wolf Alice, Don Broco, Aitch, Declan McKenna
R1: J Hus, Young T & Bugsey, Zara Larsson, Fickle Friends, Dominic Fike
Da: Peggy Gou // Pit: Creeper // FR: Blaenavon // 1xtra: Example

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44 minutes ago, SomeoneListeningIn said:

SLIPKNOT, BRING ME THE HORIZON, Tyler the Creator, All Time Low, Bullet For My Valentine, Denzel Curry
R1: Rex Orange County, Everything Everything, Tom Grennan, Mahalia, Headie One
Da: DJ EZ // LU: The All-American Rejects // FR: Drenge // 1xtra: D-Block Europe

DRAKE, Two Door Cinema Club, Halsey, Lizzo, Krept & Konan, Sam Fender
R1: Marshmello, Yungblud, Neck Deep, Ella Mai, Lil Tecca
Da: Bicep LIVE // Pit: Skindred // FR: Metronomy // 1xtra: Mist

THE KILLERS, Courteeners, Wolf Alice, Don Broco, Aitch, Declan McKenna
R1: J Hus, Young T & Bugsey, Zara Larsson, Fickle Friends, Dominic Fike
Da: Peggy Gou // Pit: Creeper // FR: Blaenavon // 1xtra: Example

D Block Europe are doing two nights at Ally Pally so take them off 1Xtra stage. I maintain that Metronomy doing Academy dates takes them off the FR too. Not sure what Fickle Friends have done to put them top half of R1 either. 

I have no idea why they'd decide to make BMTH a coheadliner - even one that doesn't close - 19 months after their album has come out after passing on them the year previous. And one with Slipknot as well? It's like making Courteeners a headliner with The Killers.

It mostly seems reasonable. Wouldn't be terribly interesting to me but I guess that's the norm now.

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Friday: 

Main: SLIPKNOT, Tyler the Creator, Run the Jewels, Idles, Brockhampton, Bullet for My Valentine, 

R1: Marshmallo, Kaiser Chiefs, Dababy

Dance: Shy FX

Lock Up: Less than Jake

1Xtra: NF

FR: Ratboy

Saturday:

Main: DRAKE, Catfish and the Bottlemen, Frank Turner and the Sleeping Souls, Halsey, SlowThai, Everything Everything

Radio 1: Don Broco, Lizzo, The Sherlocks 

Dance: Tom Zanetti

Pit: Killswitch Engage

1Xtra: Gucci Gang

FR: Fontaines DC

Sunday: 

Main: FOALS, Two Door Cinema Club, Skepta, Sam Fender, All Time Low, Sigrid

R1: The Streets, Aitch, Anne Marie

Dance: MK

Pit: Death Grips

1Xtra: Kano

FR: Sea Girls

 

 

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This is my more pessimistic outlook (the optimistic one is the same thing but Strokes instead of LG).

SLIPKNOT, Run the Jewels, Slaves, Bullet for My Valentine, Deaf Havana, Slowthai
R1: Rex Orange County, Kano, Megan Thee Stallion, Dermot Kennedy
DS: Sigala / FR: Palace / LU: The Hives / 1X: Tion Wayne

DRAKE, Skepta, Haim, Glass Animals, Everything Everything, Aitch
R1: Idles, Sam Fender, Neck Deep, Marmozets
DS: Hannah Wants / FR: Rat Boy / Pit: Clutch / 1X: Ocean Wisdom

LIAM GALLAGHER, Two Door Cinema Club, Wolf Alice, Sigrid, Loyle Carner, Pale Waves
R1: J Hus, D Block Europe, DMA's, MØ
DS: Gorgon City / FR: Fat White Family / Pit: Skindred / 1X: Denzel Curry

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Just now, dentalplan said:

pretend I wrote "Special Guest: Aitch" then

Yh fair. I just think he’s so lapped up by the kids at the moment that he’s way more likely to play a very high slot at Reading which won’t be relative to anywhere else.

I think he could genuinely play third down or sub NME.

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15 hours ago, dentalplan said:

This is my more pessimistic outlook (the optimistic one is the same thing but Strokes instead of LG).

SLIPKNOT, Run the Jewels, Slaves, Bullet for My Valentine, Deaf Havana, Slowthai
R1: Rex Orange County, Kano, Megan Thee Stallion, Dermot Kennedy
DS: Sigala / FR: Palace / LU: The Hives / 1X: Tion Wayne

DRAKE, Skepta, Haim, Glass Animals, Everything Everything, Aitch
R1: Idles, Sam Fender, Neck Deep, Marmozets
DS: Hannah Wants / FR: Rat Boy / Pit: Clutch / 1X: Ocean Wisdom

LIAM GALLAGHER, Two Door Cinema Club, Wolf Alice, Sigrid, Loyle Carner, Pale Waves
R1: J Hus, D Block Europe, DMA's, MØ
DS: Gorgon City / FR: Fat White Family / Pit: Skindred / 1X: Denzel Curry

Not sure about RTJ subbing, but I guess stranger things have happened. Rest of it looks pretty realistic imo, although I agree that Aitch will be higher than that.

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39 minutes ago, SomeoneListeningIn said:

Not sure about RTJ subbing, but I guess stranger things have happened. Rest of it looks pretty realistic imo, although I agree that Aitch will be higher than that.

Just a lack of suitable subs for Slipknot really. I imagine RTJ4 will see them take on venues like Ally Pally so it won't be that unreasonable - I would have them 3rd down normally.

I would have put Aitch in 5th - as you have him - but all the acts I have in 5th are more established and have played much bigger venues so I don't see it as him being relatively hard-done. However, I forgot about Everything Everything being on the backburner until the Foals tour is done so I don't see them playing, allowing him to slide up one spot. I wouldn't predict him any higher than that though.

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Slipknot / Tyler, The Creator / Don Broco / Babymetal / Neck Deep / Denzel Curry / Knocked Loose / YONAKA / Stand Atlantic 

The Streets / Little Simz / Kano 

The Strokes / Two Door Cinema Club / Bombay Bicycle Club / Loyle Carner / The Neighbourhood / Fontaine’s D.C. / The Regrettes / The Blinders / The S.L.P. (special guest opener) 

J Hus / Octavian / MØ

Stormzy / IDLES / Skepta / Sam Fender / Slowthai / Pale Waves / As It Is / The Faim / Sea Girls 

The Vaccines / DMA’s / Miles Kane 

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1 hour ago, bigcharlie65 said:

I just don't think Slipknot are gonna go there way more suited for download and I just don't the FR will be willing to make the gamble that they will appeal to the wide reading audience.

Slipknot with Tyler or a similar rapper subbing would work imo. Also they did Download last year. 

Put them with a well established indie band and a popular rapper on two of the other days with a decent undercard (with a popular name headlining the R1 Stage at the same time) and it’ll be fine.

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2 hours ago, Andre91 said:

Slipknot / Tyler, The Creator / Don Broco / Babymetal / Neck Deep / Denzel Curry / Knocked Loose / YONAKA / Stand Atlantic 

The Streets / Little Simz / Kano 

The Strokes / Two Door Cinema Club / Bombay Bicycle Club / Loyle Carner / The Neighbourhood / Fontaine’s D.C. / The Regrettes / The Blinders / The S.L.P. (special guest opener) 

J Hus / Octavian / MØ

Stormzy / IDLES / Skepta / Sam Fender / Slowthai / Pale Waves / As It Is / The Faim / Sea Girls 

The Vaccines / DMA’s / Miles Kane 

That would be pretty amazing for me. Idles subbing is a crazy shout though and it's not happening. I would probably swap Babymetal with the act above them.

Tyler the Creator subbing seems like a decent shout but I can't imagine him not playing Wireless. Or, I can imagine him not playing Wireless because that's what most of their scheduled headliners end up doing, but I can't imagine him not being booked to headline Wireless.

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Know it's not been long but most of what I've changed is higher up stuff. And that's what you're here for, right?

P.S. don't clown me. ?

LIAM GALLAGHER, Sam Fender, Run the Jewels, Glass Animals, Aitch, Pale Waves
R1: J Hus, D Block Europe, DMA's, MØ
DS: Gorgon City / FR: Fat White Family / Pit: Creeper / 1X: Denzel Curry

TRAVIS SCOTT, Imagine Dragons, Haim, Sigrid, Deaf Havana, Slowthai
R1: Idles, Cage the Elephant, Jimmy Eat World, Little Simz
DS: Hannah Wants / FR: Palace / Pit: Clutch / 1X: Ocean Wisdom

GUNS N ROSES, Bring Me the Horizon, Wolf Alice, Loyle Carner, The Hives, Megan Thee Stallion
R1: Rex Orange County, Kano, Zara Larsson, Dermot Kennedy
DS: Sigala / FR: Rat Boy / LU: Taking Back Sunday / 1X: Tion Wayne

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14 hours ago, dentalplan said:

Know it's not been long but most of what I've changed is higher up stuff. And that's what you're here for, right?

P.S. don't clown me. ?

LIAM GALLAGHER, Sam Fender, Run the Jewels, Glass Animals, Aitch, Pale Waves
R1: J Hus, D Block Europe, DMA's, MØ
DS: Gorgon City / FR: Fat White Family / Pit: Creeper / 1X: Denzel Curry

TRAVIS SCOTT, Imagine Dragons, Haim, Sigrid, Deaf Havana, Slowthai
R1: Idles, Cage the Elephant, Jimmy Eat World, Little Simz
DS: Hannah Wants / FR: Palace / Pit: Clutch / 1X: Ocean Wisdom

GUNS N ROSES, Bring Me the Horizon, Wolf Alice, Loyle Carner, The Hives, Megan Thee Stallion
R1: Rex Orange County, Kano, Zara Larsson, Dermot Kennedy
DS: Sigala / FR: Rat Boy / LU: Taking Back Sunday / 1X: Tion Wayne

do we really think GnR are gonna headline?

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15 hours ago, dentalplan said:

Know it's not been long but most of what I've changed is higher up stuff. And that's what you're here for, right?

P.S. don't clown me. ?

LIAM GALLAGHER, Sam Fender, Run the Jewels, Glass Animals, Aitch, Pale Waves
R1: J Hus, D Block Europe, DMA's, MØ
DS: Gorgon City / FR: Fat White Family / Pit: Creeper / 1X: Denzel Curry

TRAVIS SCOTT, Imagine Dragons, Haim, Sigrid, Deaf Havana, Slowthai
R1: Idles, Cage the Elephant, Jimmy Eat World, Little Simz
DS: Hannah Wants / FR: Palace / Pit: Clutch / 1X: Ocean Wisdom

GUNS N ROSES, Bring Me the Horizon, Wolf Alice, Loyle Carner, The Hives, Megan Thee Stallion
R1: Rex Orange County, Kano, Zara Larsson, Dermot Kennedy
DS: Sigala / FR: Rat Boy / LU: Taking Back Sunday / 1X: Tion Wayne

I think GNR are a good shout, although I think they'd try to have at least one or two acts that'd appeal to that crowd on their undercard. There aren't any names coming to mind though so it's probably fair enough.

I don't think they'd have both Imagine Dragons and BMTH subbing again. They haven't had a repeat sub booking in years, so to have two seems unlikely to me.

I think the main stage could do with at least one more prominent rap artist, preferably on the Travis Scott day, but the rest looks good to me.

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