Rightfield

[hedgepeg]

Can I ask a stupid question?

Is wishing everyone would be nice to each other a political stance? I mean, does it have to be?

[jeffie]

I prefer the term "correctfield".

Actually I attended one of Billy Braggs talks a few years ago.

I have never heard so much bollocks in my life. "I was a young tearaway who attacked OAP's but now I can see the error of my ways" etc. Then proceded to read out a fucking awful poem about how life had treated him badly, and it was the "system" etc etc

Utter shite. I restrained myself from heckling, laughed out loud, shaked my head and wandered over to the Brothers bar.

Mr Ted, I had respect for you from the post concerning the best sing ever, but you've let yourself down there as a thoughtless right wing drone, shame

Edited May 10, 2013 by jeffie

[4AssedMonkey]

Can I ask a stupid question?

Is wishing everyone would be nice to each other a political stance? I mean, does it have to be?

[formed a band]

The troll argument is so tedious and cheap,

Anyway back on track , im sure we would all welcome a part of glasto without *blacks or queers

* Arbeit macht frei

[4AssedMonkey]

WTF?

[hedgepeg]

The troll argument is so tedious and cheap,

[thesecretingredientiscrime]

Yes it is.

Who are you to decide what gets deleted?

[formed a band]

Oh it really is, not towing the line. Must be a troll

[MrZigster]

If you don't like the underlying political ethos of The Glastonbury Festival, then why are you going?

[russycarps]

The troll argument is so tedious and cheap,

Anyway back on track , im sure we would all welcome a part of glasto without *blacks or queers

* Arbeit macht frei

[Apone]

Maybe you should look through that poster's history

[4AssedMonkey]

trolling is one thing, making statements like this quite another. Embarrassing stuff

[russycarps]

Already reported it Russy. Gobsmacked.

[formed a band]

Well I never. Not only is it a modern lyric quote but as its so absurd I never thought anyone would take it seriously! Oh hang on , this is from the police hater who pissed is pants in police paranoia

[thesecretingredientiscrime]

Its far more relevant than a Daft Punk thread, are you guys going to stalk my every post now to see if it passes the relevance test, friggin wierdos!

[formed a band]

Did the asterisk and the auchwitz reference not trigger the spider senses? Oh and I'm Lancashire French Arabic so if you don't think I know what its like to be battered by racists......

[Apone]

Not really. As far as I'm aware, Daft Punk, who have played the fest, have never sought to destroy it, where as right wingers have.

[bombfrog]

Hmmm. Given the festivals roots/history I find this a bit odd.

I love the atmosphere and people at Glasto. It's a real melting pot of people but it feels like a genuine community. It's integral. Everyone - regardless of age, sex, ethnicity, height, weight, dress code, inside leg measurement etc. can get along, be friendly and inclusive. It's what I wish society was like and this in itself is a political position.

I may not agree with certain outright socialist views and some of these are present at the festival, but along the line of socialist to capitalist, I'm much closer to socialist.

The ethos of Glastonbury and the principles on which it is based and run are intrinsic to what it is. It doesn't cowtow to huge, potentially lucrative corporate control (which I don't doubt has been offered) and remains independent and run not to maximise profit, but for other - and in my opinion - better reasons. Support of worthy charitable causes. Variety. Freedom. Choice - all social ideals.

I don't think you can separate the festival from it's politics. If you did, you'd be camping outside the fence, buying £25 of bar tokens every morning before entering the Starbucks arena and picking between 3 or 4 massive stages all day, every day and subjected to 30 minutes of brainwashing between acts, encouraging you to drink Carling/Coke, eat McDeathalds, buy a festy T-Shirt made in a Bangladesh deathtrap sweatshop and basically act as though you were programmed to give up your money willingly like a spendthrift robot. There would be no more Shangri-La, Greenfields, Bandstand, Circus, Kids Fielkd, Cabaret Tent, tiny intimate cafe type venues and all the generally weird and wonderful bits that make Glastonbury what it is.

So, in summary, I think you're naive. And wrong.

[Phil-itfc]

This thread reminded me of this poster:

[bombfrog]

Can I ask a stupid question?

Is wishing everyone would be nice to each other a political stance? I mean, does it have to be?

[eFestivals]

Calling me naive because you disagree with my politics is weak, but it's exactly the kind of self-righteous argument I've come to expect from the left.

Let's start with this...

"I love the atmosphere and people at Glasto. It's a real melting pot of people but it feels like a genuine community. It's integral. Everyone - regardless of age, sex, ethnicity, height, weight, dress code, inside leg measurement etc. can get along, be friendly and inclusive."

Well, guess what... so do I

The idea that you have to be a socialist, or at least left-wing to have a sense of community and enjoy diversity is simply nonsense. It's like when Christians try to make out that you can't have a moral compass if you're an atheist and it just makes you look even more self-righteous. In your own words it also suggests that you're a little "naive" when it comes to understanding the politics. Your assertion that variety, freedom and choice are all left wing ideals is frankly laughable. I would suggest that variety and choice are the cornerstone of a free market.

Personally, I love Glastonbury, not just because I love the music, or the camping, or the sense of freedom and community, or the food, or the cider, but because the atmosphere is genuinely unique and 99% of the time I love the people I meet. However,I also have political opinions which don't gel with the like of Mr Bragg and probably don't align very well with the Eavis' either. I believe in free and fair markets. I believe in working hard and being rewarded for it. I believe in taking responsibility for yourself and your own actions and I also believe that those that wilfully contribute the least to society should receive the least back. I also happen to believe strongly in charity and helping those that have been dealt a terrible hand.

Unfortunately, the term "right wing" has become a byword for being a racist, a bigot and somebody who basically wants to let poor people rot, and for that reason I would never call myself "right wing", I'm definitely not "left wing" though and I absolutely refute the idea that not being a leftie makes you somehow incompatible with the festival.

Let's try it another way.

The festival that espouses 'sensible' right wing values can be found in Essex and Staffordshire each summer.

If nothing else, the right throw a much shitter party.

[eFestivals]

PS.... And it's also most strongly associated with an individual who's right wing values had him start his business with a massive vat fraud (robbing people like you and me), where he avoided jail for that via the use of his establishment family connections, and his fortune 'earned' since has been acquired with the big help of tax havens and avoiding paying his fair share to society (but throwing a few crumbs to charity for which he wants lauding) while most of his businesses are a financial disaster and yet he gets forever richer.

Don't cha just love those right wing values?

[eFestivals]

And your Glastonbury ticket would cost you twice as much too.

As you believe in paying properly for everything you use, and play up your support for charities, can I presume that a charity is to specifically benefit from a extra donation by you by about £200 as a direct consequence of your Glastonbury attendance and your 'good' right wing beliefs?

Or might it be that the right talks no less shite than you think billy Bragg does?

[James Bolivar]

The troll argument is so tedious and cheap,

Anyway back on track , im sure we would all welcome a part of glasto without *blacks or queers

* Arbeit macht frei

Edited May 11, 2013 by James Bolivar

[mrtourette]

Some of you guys need to chill the fuck out. Next time there's a fallow year make sure you find another way to relax, two years between festivals seems to lead to a lot of built up tension.