lharris92 Posted October 29, 2012 Author Report Share Posted October 29, 2012 indeed, it makes me die a bit inside seeing how bad its become. then again not going to watch it that much and just check it out from time to time to see if it improves Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
When Jokers Attack Posted October 29, 2012 Report Share Posted October 29, 2012 Sheamus/Big Show was a surprise. Wasn't an awful match either. Ryback/Punk I knew would have a screwjob finish but didn't see the ref swerve coming. Shit match as expected. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Nal Posted October 30, 2012 Report Share Posted October 30, 2012 Sheamus/Big Show was a surprise. Wasn't an awful match either. I enjoyed that. Ryback/Punk I knew would have a screwjob finish but didn't see the ref swerve coming. Shit match as expected. 15 minute main events?! WTF? Insulting. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lharris92 Posted October 30, 2012 Author Report Share Posted October 30, 2012 shows how much they've degraded the hiac... pathetic Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
When Jokers Attack Posted October 30, 2012 Report Share Posted October 30, 2012 3.00 into this clip hahahaha Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Nal Posted October 30, 2012 Report Share Posted October 30, 2012 The interview after is hilariously bad too Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
luckysalt Posted October 30, 2012 Report Share Posted October 30, 2012 I watched the two Title matches. Big Show v Sheamus was decent, considering their style, it kept your interest, I have no interest in a rematch however. Punk v Ryback was a TV match at best, not a PPV, the cell was hardly used, the big move on top at the end tacked on. For the Hell in the Cell PPV, having a 15 minute 'match' in the Cell and nothing else is pathetic and Vince should be fucking ashamed. I haven't seen raw or even read the results, but I saw the match made of Team Punk v Team Foley and Foley isn't even in the match, whats the fucking point? Why use Foley at ALL, I loved Foley but his time has WELL and truely past, he's ruining his legacy by being nothing but an idiot on tv. He's also taking up other peoples promo time, how the hell are these guys meant to break out and become HUGE stars when Foley is taking their promo time, I don't expect Ryback to cut an amazing promo, but I wanna see what Kofi can do, its his time to make the rise. Hiding in a team tag match with Foley doing his talking isn't going to make him break out. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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The Nal Posted October 30, 2012 Report Share Posted October 30, 2012 Watching HIAC from 98 right now. Still utterly incredible Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
A-Rob Posted October 31, 2012 Report Share Posted October 31, 2012 Undertaker vs HBK '97 Undertaker vs Mankind '98 Cactus Jack vs HHH 2000 6 Man Cell at Armageddon 2000 even Undertaker vs Brock Lesnar 2002 These gave the true meaning to a HIAC match Now HIAC is losing all it's credibilty that the mentioned matches above created. HIAC and PG era should not mix togther Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
A-Rob Posted October 31, 2012 Report Share Posted October 31, 2012 (edited) I haven't seen raw or even read the results, but I saw the match made of Team Punk v Team Foley and Foley isn't even in the match, whats the fucking point? Why use Foley at ALL, I loved Foley but his time has WELL and truely past, he's ruining his legacy by being nothing but an idiot on tv. He's also taking up other peoples promo time, how the hell are these guys meant to break out and become HUGE stars when Foley is taking their promo time, I don't expect Ryback to cut an amazing promo, but I wanna see what Kofi can do, its his time to make the rise. Hiding in a team tag match with Foley doing his talking isn't going to make him break out. Well that is what's happening on IMPACT every week, were the likes of Sting, Hogan are eating all the time, hence why TNA struggle to create new Superstars! Edited October 31, 2012 by A-Rob Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chiefski Posted October 31, 2012 Report Share Posted October 31, 2012 Hell in a Cell and Cage matches should just not happen while they have their no blood policy in action, really renders them pointless Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Nal Posted October 31, 2012 Report Share Posted October 31, 2012 Raw is terrible by the way. Don't bother. Seriously. I get the impression that creative have no idea what to do at the moment. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lharris92 Posted October 31, 2012 Author Report Share Posted October 31, 2012 they're making it up on the spot i'm sure Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Nal Posted October 31, 2012 Report Share Posted October 31, 2012 they're making it up on the spot i'm sure Apparently they were still in discussion just before Hell in a Cell went on air about how the main event should go down. And they were reluctant to bring in Lesnar as theres a Lesnar/HHH rematch in the works and they don't want to dilute it with a Lesnar/Ryback feud. It looks like the old days of WCW to me at the moment. They haven't a clue what they're doing. Loud "Goldberg" chants on Raw again this week. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
A-Rob Posted October 31, 2012 Report Share Posted October 31, 2012 I think if the Goldberg chants continue, wwe creative will think twice before continue pushing him Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
When Jokers Attack Posted October 31, 2012 Report Share Posted October 31, 2012 TNA struggle to create new Superstars! Austin Aries Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
A-Rob Posted October 31, 2012 Report Share Posted October 31, 2012 Yes with Austin Aries they did a brillant job However they relay too much on already establish starts such as Sting, Jeff hardy, Kurt angle, Mr. Kennedy, Bubba Ray, D-von, RVD etc etc instead of trying to create their own. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
When Jokers Attack Posted October 31, 2012 Report Share Posted October 31, 2012 Yes with Austin Aries they did a brillant job However they relay too much on already establish starts such as Sting, Jeff hardy, Kurt angle, Mr. Kennedy, Bubba Ray, D-von, RVD etc etc instead of trying to create their own. Jeff Hardy is the face of the company. He is the Cena of TNA in terms of merch sale.I agree with RVD and Kennedy. As for Kurt Angle I think next year will be his last year. I can see him coming back to WWE for one last run. Bully Ray is amazing. One of the best things in wrestling right now. Devon I don't mind. it's not like he is in the main events. I am enjoying him being in Aces and Eights so far. Sting is a TNA legend. It's not like he is sitll winning titles. He is used in more of a special attaction role these days, TNA using Sting is no worse than WWE when they bring back The Rock. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
metallimuse Posted October 31, 2012 Report Share Posted October 31, 2012 Undertaker vs HBK '97 Undertaker vs Mankind '98 Cactus Jack vs HHH 2000 6 Man Cell at Armageddon 2000 even Undertaker vs Brock Lesnar 2002 These gave the true meaning to a HIAC match Now HIAC is losing all it's credibilty that the mentioned matches above created. HIAC and PG era should not mix togther That six man hell in a cell was incredible!I can still remember it so vividly and the others you listed. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
When Jokers Attack Posted October 31, 2012 Report Share Posted October 31, 2012 Forgot to say. Ordered WWE '13 for PS3. Not played a wresling game in a few years but The Attitude Era mode sounds amazing. You get to play through feuds from that time period and recreate HIAC matches with Taker and HBK. Ken Shamrock, The Godfather, Shane McMahon etc are all on the game. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lharris92 Posted October 31, 2012 Author Report Share Posted October 31, 2012 as did i. first one in a while ive bought as well. should be good Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
luckysalt Posted November 1, 2012 Report Share Posted November 1, 2012 Well that is what's happening on IMPACT every week, were the likes of Sting, Hogan are eating all the time, hence why TNA struggle to create new Superstars! Not at all Hogan is the GM and Sting works with him, and isn't on all the time. TNA has created and established James Storm, Bobby Roode and Austin Aires all as world champions and they aren't going back to midcard. Sadly they messed around AJ Styles a bit, I liked him with Flair myself but a lot of people didn't. They also have taken Bully Ray and made him a main player and many in the industry said he was heel of the year last year. They've even got Devon over. TNA have been getting it right for a long time, Daniels and Kaz are being used well and getting over huge, another 2 stars they've made. WWE have flopped at it, RUINED Ryder's push, Swagger was wasted, in the midst of ruining Ziggler, again. Hope they recover him cus he's their future. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
luckysalt Posted November 1, 2012 Report Share Posted November 1, 2012 (edited) If you search on youtube for a user called nwofans, they have uploaded everything from the start of the nWo up until where they have got to uploading, each video is nearly 2 hours and they plan to upload over 40 videos, it has huges chunks of nitros and ppvs. If you were a WCW fan back in 1996 onwards its really, really good viewing. Im on the third video and I saw Hall debut, Nash debut, build up to Bash at the Beach, then that match Hogan join, Dibiase join, Hogan v Giant at Hog Wild, Outsiders v Sting and Luger at Hog Wild, Giant join, Syxx join [called so because he was the sixth member they explain it, I always thought it was 123 kid numbers added up] Then Vincent join as head of security for Dibiase, they tease it as Vince is joining [as Vince McMahon] has all the fake Sting, Sting walking away cus they didn't trust him, including on video 3 at around 39 minutes in [going from memory of watching it earlier] Lugers award winning performance of crawling to the back begging Sting for forgiveness. A must see if you have the time and are an old school wrestling fan Edit on video 3, look how FAT Teddy Long is at 1hr.05! Edited November 1, 2012 by luckysalt 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
When Jokers Attack Posted November 1, 2012 Report Share Posted November 1, 2012 If you search on youtube for a user called nwofans, they have uploaded everything from the start of the nWo up until where they have got to uploading, each video is nearly 2 hours and they plan to upload over 40 videos, it has huges chunks of nitros and ppvs. If you were a WCW fan back in 1996 onwards its really, really good viewing. Im on the third video and I saw Hall debut, Nash debut, build up to Bash at the Beach, then that match Hogan join, Dibiase join, Hogan v Giant at Hog Wild, Outsiders v Sting and Luger at Hog Wild, Giant join, Syxx join [called so because he was the sixth member they explain it, I always thought it was 123 kid numbers added up] Then Vincent join as head of security for Dibiase, they tease it as Vince is joining [as Vince McMahon] has all the fake Sting, Sting walking away cus they didn't trust him, including on video 3 at around 39 minutes in [going from memory of watching it earlier] Lugers award winning performance of crawling to the back begging Sting for forgiveness. A must see if you have the time and are an old school wrestling fan Edit on video 3, look how FAT Teddy Long is at 1hr.05! Cheers for the heads up! Going to check them out. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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