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  1. On 4/11/2022 at 9:46 AM, gooner1990 said:

    Agree with that.

    When I started doing Reading festival in 1999 it was just watch the headliners then back to the campsite for chaos/sitting at randoms campfire/meeting people/generally being silly.

    Doesn't happen at all now because Silent Discos and late bars are still open so people opt for that now.

    This is a change for the better. Last thing I want when I get back to my tent is being kept awake all night by wrecked people who have nowhere else to go. 

  2. 6 hours ago, Bucketsquad said:

    😂 I was looking at the old lineups yesterday and I had to google to confirm that Travis had actually headlined as I thought no way that happened, needles to say it did.

    I really hope this was a very subtle Alan Partridge reference rather than a simple typo 

  3. 5 hours ago, Brownie30 said:

    Chvrches at Brixton Academy tonight - absolutely brilliant. Best I've seen them, and the new songs sound so good live. Joined on stage by Robert Smith for the encore for How Not to Drown, and Just Like Heaven - a real treat and a great gig. Would love to see them on the farm.

    They were incredible last night. I've always been a huge fan but their live show has gone up a notch.

    Assume if they were playing the festival this year, they'd have been on the first poster though. 

  4. 6 hours ago, efcfanwirral said:

    Yeah but its the very start of winter - we saw what happened last November and December, and while there's modelling saying it'll go down by Christmas, it's pretty much the same modelling that said 100k cases / 7k hospitalisations so I'm not believing that any more than the more outlandish models in the other direction.

    If we get through to Feb/March without it getting bad enough to have restrictions we can confidently say we're all good, but for now it's not even started

    It indicates that there's a ceiling at which case numbers will level off and then drop though as immunity builds.

    I'm as optimistic as I've been that this winter is going to be nowhere near as bad as feared. 

  5. 30 minutes ago, jannybruck said:

    It doesn't necessarily keep everyone safe, though. As the original tweet said, the MVT have made clear that the reason they object to the proposals is the evidence that this would have any substantial impact on the spread (off the top of my head: clubs, gigs and bars have been opened in England since July, without any huge spike in case numbers), which they've provided to the governments, and which both seem to have roundly ignored.

    Agree with every word of this. It's a policy brought in on political grounds not medical grounds. No evidence at all that it makes going to a gig any safer. 

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  6. 18 minutes ago, Avalon_Fields said:

    It’s a bit of a slippery slope if we were to have restrictions for controlling flu in the future, where does it all end? How risk adverse should we be?

    Exactly this. We haven't considered putting restrictions in place for flu previously, no matter how bad the flu season has been. Provided we're not at risk of exceeding hospital bed capacity, there's no reason to start now. 

  7. 7 minutes ago, zzzfest said:

    Hope so...

    The problem is, even double vaccination is not effective enough against Covid, especially AZ which is reported to be appx 60% effective, more or less.

    Let’s see what will happen (or not, hopefully) next few weeks.

    I'm curious as to what the answer would be if you're suggesting it's not safe for a club full of vaccinated people to dance? 

    If this isn't safe then presumably it'll never be safe and so mass events, Glastonbury included, should cease to exist? 

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  8. 32 minutes ago, bennyhana22 said:

    So, team...

    Double vaccines mandatory for clubs from September.



    Disgraceful and completely unjustified in my view. Clubs not even been open 24 hours and already clubbers being made the scapegoat for any rise in infections. Easy target as middle England have no intention of ever going to a nightclub.

    I've had both my jabs but that won't stop me protesting about this. 

  9. 14 minutes ago, Matt42 said:

    People who would never go to clubs or festivals now have a stick to beat people with who do. Germaphobes who would quite happily see Glastonbury never happen again. Jealousy and insecurity. 

    It's all being set up for clubs being the scapegoat for the inevitable increase in cases. 

    I'll be pleasantly surprised if clubs are still open by the end of August. 

  10. 12 minutes ago, jannybruck said:

    Nah, this won't happen, so there's no point spending energy preparing yourself for it. There'll be a spike but all the noises show they've clearly commited to the 19th now and then will see what happens.

    I agree that they'll proceed with the 19th. However I don't think they'll wait til September before the flip flopping starts. 

    Netherlands have already set the precedent. 

  11. 5 minutes ago, efcfanwirral said:

    Hospitality to get the blame, screwing them long term. Its a shame so many need full capacity to survive, if all of them were able to stick two fingers up to the government's "reopening" and keep measures as they are now, then they wouldn't be able to be blamed.

    You know what i distinctly remember the scientists in the briefings being cautious and saying something along the lines of "if a vaccine reduces severity this will be a big win" and basically said what @Toilet Duck says that it won't fully get rid of transmission but if it does at a certain percentage that's really good.

    But then the politicians and the media jumped on the early case drops correlating with rollout and declared them this magic bullet to eliminate the virus. But we were in lockdown at the time so the transmission reduction seems to have corrected itself towards the original estimates, which were always said to be good and better than we could hope for. I've been basing my own opinions on those early things that were said so haven't been hugely surprised by the infected and symptomatic double jabbed people. 

    The media and politicians getting carried away...sounds familiar! 

    The reporting of this Netherlands stuff is unreal. Pretty much every headline is "Netherlands sees huge spike after nightclubs reopen". This despite only a third of the new cases being attributed to a hospitality venue. And of those, I assume the definition is that if someone was in a pub/club in the previous few days then they must've caught covid in there. 

    Also very little mention that, as yet, hospital admissions have stayed stable. 

    Clear that once again, everything is being set up to blame hospitality when cases inevitable rise in the next few weeks. 

    Fully expect the clubs to be closed and social distancing back in pubs by the end of August. 

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  12. 7 minutes ago, Supernintendo Chalmers said:

    Surely this is impossible to manage once an event begins?

    "Ref, stop the game, there's a geezer in block D, row 34, set C without a mask on". Mental.

    Masks were to be worn at all the euros games. Of the 4 I went to, I'd say compliance was less than 5%. Complete waste of time. 

  13. 31 minutes ago, fraybentos1 said:

    They always said cases were gonna rise as we unlocked and now cases are rising as we unlock and everyone is panicking. I don't get it. Opening is constantly getting pushed down the road by some on here even tho they said they supported the one month delay and said we should open in July. Did you expect cases to be dropping by now?


    This is my thinking as well. The mood music seems to have changed dramatically in the last few days despite no significant change in the data.

    Undoubtedly not helped by the government's flip flopping yesterday.

  14. 1 hour ago, Nobody Interesting said:

    The one released at the weekend polled 50,000 people - mostly done by researchers out and about.

    Over 50% thought current restrictions should remain and only 23% thought stage 4 should happen on the 19th July.

    Is that enough people for you or would you prefer to hand pick those who are asked?

    It would appear my social group are far from representative in that case. I haven't spoken to anyone that wants current restrictions to be kept beyond 19th July. 

  15. 1 minute ago, efcfanwirral said:

    Considering how many are on a knife edge revenue wise, that extra cost could cause a big problem. 

    Agreed. Also what's the justification? By autumn everyone that's getting a vaccine will have had it. If we have restrictions this winter, we accept that we'll have them forever more. 

  16. 12 minutes ago, Ryan1984 said:

    I read somewhere that he pre-writes them whereas Tyldesley always would say his lines off the cuff - just so extensive research and make loads of notes.

    It definitely sounds like he's reading from a script a lot of the time. It's dreadful to listen to. 

  17. 3 hours ago, philipsteak said:

    With ITV having Sam Matterface, why would ITV even bother?

    He's absolutely shocking. Every time there's any sort of set piece within 50 yards of the opposition goal, he comes out with some melodramatic nonsense ("I wonder, I wonder" "it couldn't be, could it" etc). 

    Shameless attempts to try and get a memorable quote to raise his profile ala Tyldesley and "can Manchester united score, they always score". 

  18. 6 minutes ago, Homer said:

    Ha, good point - the dichotomy of it all. I'll watch the highlights back later.

    Yes, whereas when Scottish players dive they so it with so much more style, panache and dignity.



    I'm Scottish but have to concede that this made me laugh 

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  19. 14 minutes ago, MrBarry465 said:

    Nobody is cheering it on from the sidelines, I just said it might become a situation with regards to 'living with it'.

    You also need to

    A) Recruit staff

    B) Train staff

    C) Increase pay for NHS staff

    What good are beds if there is nobodyto station them?

    Even the WHO say that lockdowns should only be used as a last resort to buy time whilst implementing other measures. You're not buying time for anything if you implement them on an annual basis. 

  20. Incredible to see people saying they would accept lockdowns every winter. Desperately hope that's not a widely held view. 

    If this results in us exceeding NHS capacity every winter (which I highly doubt) then the answer is to increase hospital bed capacity, not to stick everyone under house arrest for 3 months and kill off the hospitality industry. 

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