Jump to content

elias

GOLD member
  • Content count

    434
  • Joined

  • Last visited

  • Days Won

    2

elias last won the day on July 16

elias had the most liked content!

Community Reputation

86 Excellent

About elias

  • Rank
    Festival Freak

Profile Information

  • Gender
    Male

Recent Profile Visitors

2,351 profile views
  1. elias

    Mad Cool 2018

    I guess that's the great thing about festivals - everyone's experience is different. I suppose many people's view would be coloured by the entry arrangements on the first day, which was admitedly a complete balls up. That being said in years gone by I've had just as bad (if not worse) at Glastonbury, but it doesn't stop me going back. You just have to hope that they learn from their mistakes and improve. Have a good time at Benicassim.
  2. elias

    Mad Cool 2018

    Great to read so many positive recent posts, I think it's a fairer reflection of the festival as a whole. We've been over the negative aspects ad nauseam, so some balance is good to see. The point about the vibe is a good one. I didn't really think too much about it when I was there, but looking back everyone I met was happy and chilled. Never saw anything remotely related to a fight. As mentioned by Wooderson, perhaps the older demographic was the reason.
  3. elias

    Mad Cool 2018

    Agree with this entirely. We remarked on the almost total lack of children (I don't know if there was an age limit?) and also no groups of 15 year olds linking hands and moving in packs. The weather was just beautiful once the sun started setting. Sorry, also wanted to add that Eddie Vedder singing 'Just Breathe' was beautiful. The family were in bits.
  4. elias

    Mad Cool 2018

    Mostly, yes, for the headliners. Not packed, but fairly full The problem is the near emptiness for the bands lower down the card.
  5. elias

    Mad Cool 2018

    I think many of the issues this year were caused by the change of site. I'm hoping that they will keep the same site next year and learn from the problems.
  6. elias

    Mad Cool 2018

    Did anybody see Black Pistol Fire? They were on the Radio Stage and the crowd loved it. By the way, I thought the smaller stages were excellent. A decent size and never had a problem getting a good viewing spot. There were a few sound bleed issues between Radio Stage and Koko (my daughter said The White Buffalo suffered a bit) but all good apart from that. Jet just about finished me off on the last night - according to my wife we walked 18 miles that day and then the uncaring buggers had the bad manners to play such a storming set that I had to dance non-stop! For all the things that went wrong with the festival (and there were some serious issues) much, much more went right. I guess the way to judge it is that I would do it all again this weekend if I could. My biggest regret was missing most of Nine Inch Nails. We went to see Future Islands, who were very good and had a large and happy crowd, and only got round to the main stage to see the last three NIN songs. Oh, and Kaleo! Loved them too! Let's face it, there were so many great bands in such a small area. I'm not sure we'll ever see the like again.
  7. elias

    Mad Cool 2018

    I don't disagree with any of this. I'm not trying to defend VIP areas. My wife and I weren't worried in the VIP pit during QOTSA. There was still plenty of room after people jumped in and I've experienced far worse crowds at regular gigs. I guess it just depends on what you are used to... Over many years (christ I'm getting old) I've been in every size crowd going, many before there were safety barriers or pits or golden circles or whatever they are called. Things were way worse back then and I honestly feared for my safety once or twice. Roskilde changed everything in terms of safety and things are distinctly better now. I agree it never got too full after some of the crowd jumped the barrier during the QOTSA set. There was still plenty of room, but my point is that there was no way of controlling the numbers and it could have got out of hand. The fact that it didn't is more due to luck than anything else. Thanks for discussing in an adult and intelligent way. It's what Efestivals should be about.
  8. elias

    Mad Cool 2018

    I honestly don't know where to start to reply to some of the statements in this post, so I'll just say that you and I have very different views of inclusivity at concerts and leave it at that. Debating further will do me no good. I suggest you never attend a Frank Carter gig.
  9. elias

    Mad Cool 2018

    Seriously? I thought we were having a sensible conversation about safety at the front of rock gigs. You really believe that women should not be allowed to the front of a pit? Allow me to state once again - I am not talking about moshing. This is to do with encouraging thousands of people to jump the barriers and rush to the front. These are very different things. "It's people like you that make for a bad atmosphere at a rock gig" - I don't believe you know me. If you did you would find that statement particularly silly.
  10. elias

    Mad Cool 2018

    Yeah, I never did understand this. You have an area right in front of the stage cordoned off for your viewing pleasure and you choose to watch from 50 yards away? Maybe this was part of the problem. So many decided not to make use of the VIP pit that it was empty for much of the time. I guess there are 3 alternatives: 1. Make the VIP area smaller. 2. Allow in everyone 15 minutes after the show starts. 3. Do away with it altogether.
  11. elias

    Mad Cool 2018

    Sorry, I should have pointed out that my daughter is no child. She's 24 and was with her boyfriend. I don't care what size you are, if there is a crush then you are in danger. We are not talking about moshing, we are talking about over crowding. Homme being a bit 'rowdy' is one way of putting it. Being an arsehole is another. Personally I've never been 'humped by some big sweaty 280lb man' at a concert. 😄 Sounds a bit painful to me.
  12. elias

    Mad Cool 2018

    Oh, just to balance things out - after the problems on the first day we had an amazing time at the festival. Band after band producing great music. If you saw a 60 year old fool jumping about like a 16 year old - it was probably me.
  13. elias

    Mad Cool 2018

    Agreed that the security guy was a dick. Right, I'm sure this will get a lot of abuse, but here goes: The rights or wrongs of VIP can be discussed, but the fact is that there was an area cordoned off from the rest of the stage. My family and I were in there for Queens Of The Stone Age. I'd never really listened to them much before, but really got into them in the lead up to the festival. The set itself was amazing, I was enjoying it enormously from the back of the pit with my wife and eldest daughter. My youngest daugther and her boyfriend (being young) were down the front. A little way into the set Josh Homme decides to make it plain that he wants the VIP area opened up to allow more people in. Now, I've no objection to this at all, I've been on the other side of things many times in days gone by and a large area at the front of the stage that is partly empty when there are so many ardent fans of the band is frankly stupid. Here's the problem: when this didn't appear to be happening he repeated time and time again that the crowd shoud jump over the barriers and storm the pit (my words, not his, but that was the inference). My wife and I looked at each other and immediately knew this was not a good idea. What did he think would happen? People would jump over then stop and dance around at the back? It started to get out of control as more and more people came over the barriers and rushed for the front. My wife was almost in tears as more and more excited fans moved past us and headed for the stage. The thought that our daughter was about to be caught up in a potentially serious crush was alarming. Luckily things eventually calmed down - whether extra security got to grips with things or there were enough sensible people who decided that they shoudn't get involved, I don't know, but it could have been a very serious problem indeed. There have been enough serious crush issues at concerts in the past, I certainly would not wish to ever see or hear about another ever again. I gave Josh Homme the benefit of the doubt after the incident with the female photographer, but not after this. The day one of your sons is old enough to be at the front of the pit for one of your concerts and you entreat thousands of fans to rush the stage, I'll be happy to cut you some slack - otherwise don't be such a dick. Once again, this is NOT about the rights or wrongs of VIP areas at the front of stages, but about the way he went about it. I heard more than one band (Tame Impala, Franz Ferdinand) ask for the VIP area to be opened up and I think that it often was, but in an organised manner. Whipping up a crowd to jump over barriers and rush into a small area is a recipe for disaster. Sorry if you find any of this offensive, but it was something that was really frightening at the time and it took the shine off what was a great set for me.
  14. elias

    Mad Cool 2018

    Agreed with all those that thought there was a big improvement on the second day. Never waited long for a beer or the loos. Technically it's fantastic. The sound is great, the stages are huge and easily accessible and the screens are massive and crystal clear once it gets dark. This doesn't excuse the total balls up at entry the first day. With a bit of forward planning and a lot of luck we were in and watching Gang Of Youths at 6.00pm, but waiting for hours in those roasting temperatures must have been awful. Some things have improved from last year and some things are worse, but we are having a great time. Getting back to the apartment at the end of the night is a bit of a pain, but certainly do able. Looking forward to some great bands tonight.
  15. elias

    Mad Cool 2018

    Yes, there were. I remember women being sent to one queue and men to another. Bags were searched and I think there was a perfunctory pat down. Strap the hip flask to the inner thigh. Could be refreshing if you've just got it out of the fridge.
×